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I hope a lot of people realise that getting the tracks into GT PSP wasn't hard, they've basically just taken GT4's tracks, scaled them down to reduce the memory load and dumped them in. They can't do that for GT5, scaling something up results in a nasty loss of detail and can require in a lot of work if you want to up the detail to match something of a higher standard. It also means you arn't getting as good atrack in terms of accuracy and surface detail as you would get with a scrath built track. I think the chances are PD has spent a lot of time up scaling the Ring simply becuase of the sheer size of it, but the other tracks are probably scratch built. But even if some are scaled up there's a lot more work involved than scaling down. I said it months ago, probably a year ago actually, 20 odd cars for GT5 would be about right for the development time and the quality of the game and the modelling used. Forza 3 has 20 odd tracks (unique tracks) and that's used all of Forza 2's tracks and added some new ones (including tracks released as DLC for Forza 2). So that's 4 years + of track modelling on the XB360 and that's 20 odd tracks. Anyone expecting 70+ unique tracks was simply not being realistic.
 
20 Tracks only? For real? I allways thought Location was a region, or a country, but in case 20 means 20 individual tracks with several variations this is a major letdown.

I mean they have WRC aswell , so its probably only 16 tracks on tarmac. The major track list includes 12 tracks (missing Rome, so actually 13), which means there are only 3-4 tracks to be revealed?
There were pictures of a oval in Texas recently, so it could be 14 tracks known by now.
 
Just so you guys know the other Sim-type racing games out this gen also only have about 20 tracks, with many variations.
 
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Sorry if those have been posted already, didn't check the whole thread.
 
Just so you guys know the other Sim-type racing games out this gen also only have about 20 tracks, with many variations.

Its not one of the games out there, its GT! :dunce:

by the way, the PS3 Slim on pictures is a "test" console, like the ones PD used to have while developing GT4. Nothing special, it just caught my eye.
 
20 Tracks only? For real? I allways thought Location was a region, or a country, but in case 20 means 20 individual tracks with several variations this is a major letdown.

I mean they have WRC aswell , so its probably only 16 tracks on tarmac. The major track list includes 12 tracks (missing Rome, so actually 13), which means there are only 3-4 tracks to be revealed?
There were pictures of a oval in Texas recently, so it could be 14 tracks known by now.

Please Please PLEASE elaborate on the Texas oval!!!
 
It wasn't in game, it was nothing really. Sony had a few compilation videos of NASCAR and someone took a photo of a Texas banner from that video and posted it up, some people thought it was from GT5. It wasn't.
 
I don't care for "variations", if there's 20 locations, i assume there's only 20 tracks and that's just embarassing.
 
This 20+ 60+ debates still going on? Soon enough they will elaborate the exact track count (I bet it resembles little to 20-60) and you can all relax. No point for everyone to be going over it and over it until it drives some people just about insane.
 
Another bad interpretation of track count which was once definitely explained as country=location, variation=track variation. GT info have been long time full of hiding and fogging and I would swear there will be all GT4 tracks plus Eiger, London, Indy, Madrid, Bern and many rally tracks to that. It just can't be 20, guys.
 
I think my opinion on tracks will be correct. 20+ worldwide locations, 60 or 70+ tracks.
It's been mixed up, changed and lost in the media, but think about this. WHY would there be just 20 tracks? GT4 had about 50 or so, and you can bet your left or your right shoe that GT5 will for starters have all those 50.. plus a few new ones.
 
for example...
Japan 1 location
Suzuka fuji twing ring motegi 3 layouts
USA 1 location
Daytona speedway Laguna Seca infenion raceway. 3 layouts
Germany 1 location
Hockeheim nurburgring GP nordscheleife 3 layouts

Layouts means tracks with their variations
 
Wow,

A lot of people are very anxious that the make up arguments that are told before without any proof to back it up.

Always a nice read. I will wait untill I see the final list of tracks.
The images I see are very sweet. Tomorrow I will have my new tv (Philips Ambilight) and I will be waiting till I have the GT5 disc in my PS3 :nervous:
 
It wasn't in game, it was nothing really. Sony had a few compilation videos of NASCAR and someone took a photo of a Texas banner from that video and posted it up, some people thought it was from GT5. It wasn't.

Ok, I thought it was something official, since it was in a trailer. But we will know that for sure as soon as GT5 releases :D
 
Number 19 is not a different track. A wet track is not another track.

Both Motorland & the Beginner course were used for races in GT4.

You have put the Test Track in twice at 49 & 51.
 
You completely wrong!
Kazunori said all gt4 tracks will be in GT5. Gt4 has 50 tracks with variations.
How could it be 20 courses? course is wrong word.. it must be location.
UK magazine used wrong word.


Sorry, but I CANNOT POSSIBLY BE WRONG

My post merely relays the latest info on the official UK Playstation site.

They, of course, may well be wrong;)
 
You completely wrong!
Kazunori said all gt4 tracks will be in GT5. Gt4 has 50 tracks with variations.
How could it be 20 courses? course is wrong word.. it must be location.
UK magazine used wrong word.

When did Kazunori say that all GT4 tracks would be in GT5?
 
Being a person that believes using common sense is always a good thing.

Also remembering the game will have a World Map mode (Did we get a glimpse of that from the Asia Game Show Video)
It is very unlikely a world map is used but with only 20 tracks particulary when compared to past GT games and this one being the most ambitious yet.

Isnt this discussion of 20 tracks just nonsense.

Every GT game since GT 2 has had more than 20 tracks.
The PSP version has over 35

It is reasonable to expect at least the PSP tracks with both games being jointly developed and more tracks to be included in GT5.

GT5 will then also have tracks relating to its specific cars/features and cities.
WRC,NASCAR,IRL,SUPER GT,REAL CITIES and Top Gear at least being another.
 
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Consider what you have for certain:

1) GT5P tracks and possible variations in GT5 (some exist in GT5P)

- Suzuka (that's probably one location, 3 variations)
- High Speed Ring (1 location, 2 variations if you count HSR Reverse)
- Fuji (1 location, 3 variations like in GT4)
- London (1 location, maybe 2 variations also)
- Eiger (1 location, 2 variations if you count Eiger Reverse)
- Daytona (1 location, 2 variations)

This amounts already to:
6 locations, 14 variations





2) GT5Demo track and possible variations in GT5

- Indianapolis (1 location, 2 variations)

this leads to:
7 locations, 16 variations




3) Tracks we have reason to believe will be in GT5

- Nurburgring (1 location, 3 variations - NS, GP, NS+GP)
- La Sarthe (1 location, 2 variations ... maybe 3 if they have Bugatti)
- Madrid (1 location, nothing known about variations but I will assume 2)
- Rome (1 location, nothing known about variations but I will assume 2)
- Tokyo (1 location, 2 variations if you include Reverse)
- Top Gear (1 location, nothing known about variations but I will assume 2)
- Rally track (Tuscany, 1 location, nothing known about variations but I will assume 2)


And this gets us to:

- 14 locations, with 31, maybe 32 variations


I will now be speculative and will add to the list:
- Spa-Francorchamps (1 location, 2 variations)
- Tsukuba (1 location, 2 variations)

And find a total of "most certain" 16 locations with 35 or 36 variations.


I'm only missing 4 locations then. But I'm missing a lot of variations. That's why I remain hopeful that "locations" don't mean "tracks", because that would mean each track had to have between 3 and 4 variations each. I don't think that's possible.
 
Location means both country and place.

Japan 1 location
suzuka fuji twing ring motegi tokyo rally of japan tsukuba 5 layouts.

Tsukuba confirmed both e3 2009 trailer and Asia game show trailer
 
Here are the GT5P Locations and tracks featured in the World Map/My Page
It is still my own belief that the World Map and Timezone will have a "Real Time" lighting and possibly weather effect of the country or track you race in.
At least I believe that was their intentions originally.

For Instance lets assume you Race Suzuka and the My Page states it is 4pm their and raining then the gae will have lighting and weather to match.


The below were never confirmed to be in GT5 but how many now since could be proved not to be linked to the game, taking onboard what we know now.

Featured Phisical Track/Locations In GT5P World Map/Clock:
Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps
Zolder Circuit Terlaemen
Shanghai International Circuit
Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe
Le Mans Bugatti Circuit
Hockenheimring
Nürburgring
Imola
Autodromo Nationale Monza
Fuji Speedway
Suzuka International Racing Course
Twin Ring Motegi Circuit
Tsukuba Circuit
Monaco
Estoril
Jerez
Brands Hatch Race Circuit
Silverstone Circuit
Daytona International Speedway
Laguna Seca Mazda Raceway
Sonoma Infineon Raceway

10x Featured Countries In GT5P World Map/Clock:
Belgium
China
France
Germany
Italy
Japan
Portugal
Spain
United Kingdom
USA
 
Location means both country and place.

Japan 1 location
suzuka fuji twing ring motegi tokyo rally of japan tsukuba 5 layouts.

Tsukuba confirmed both e3 2009 trailer and Asia game show trailer
I really wouldn't call Suzuka (or any track there) a "layout" of Japan. Doesn't make sense. What does make sense is what Hun200kmh wrote.

Japan as a region has those 5 locations above. Each location has at least the standard track, and possibly one or more alternative variations of that track. So, Japan could have 5 locations and 10+ variations in total. Now, whether or not PD choose to group things by region like on a world map remains to be seen.
 
Maybe the over 20 locations only refers to "real" places?!
So maybe fictional tracks are no location, since they do not exist i a real location on this planet.
Eiger, London, Fuji and Tokyo are locations, because they really exist, but the High Speed Ring is no location, since its a completely fictional track, like Deep Forest and Trial Mountain.
 
Maybe the over 20 locations only refers to "real" places?!
So maybe fictional tracks are no location, since they do not exist i a real location on this planet.
Eiger, London, Fuji and Tokyo are locations, because they really exist, but the High Speed Ring is no location, since its a completely fictional track, like Deep Forest and Trial Mountain.
Maybe, but I would incude Trial Mountain as a location if I were defining things, but I'm not so... :)

For me, a location represents a track. A track can have several variations. Anything beyond that is over-complicating things in my view!
 
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