Comfort Tires = Professional Level?

[Warren4649]

what a load of total BS.

Are people still under the misconception that for drifting you want to reduce grip levels?

Smoke from either tyres is the same. Whether you manjii the length of tsukuba start finish straight in two passes or four is down to your driving style.

Are you still under the misconception that we are talking about real life?

 

[BlackIce90]

I will win if i lead with sports but by the end if Tsukuba I will be 3 turns ahead...not much to judge.

If you lead with comforts and im on sports im on your door in every corner and I don't even have to use the gas on the straight bc you can't gain speed anyway...

I like sports and a car with 400 to 600hp, and if your in front of me on comfort your holding me back no matter what.

Sooorrrryyyy!

If you read my post properly you would have seen that I would like to challenge someone who uses only sport to challenge me while we BOTH on Comfort Hards with 400 HP. Can you handle that?

 

[UKORedgar]

Ok, I took the liberty on doing a test run on Comfort Hard - Racing Soft Tires. Not the best drifting but I was really trying hard to connect each corners as the tires got more gripper. Anyway this was just done today and test it your self...

 

[HKSD1]

given enough time the general crowd will set the standards in tires of choice in competition and tandem........so far...drifting sports tires could be quite lonely...

but either way i prefer comforts alot more as drifts are much more spectacular

 

[aga080]

i use racing hard tires on my drift cars and i kill it on the daily

 

[Duman079]

Use Comfort Hard on the front and Comfort Medium on the rear. Especially with high performance cars.

 

[Warren4649]

i use racing hard tires on my drift cars and i kill it on the daily

Video or it never happened!

I bet its more understeer than oversteer, with minor angle drifts.

 

[Nismo34]

i use racing hard tires on my drift cars and i kill it on the daily

you would need so much torque that you would destroy the tyres after a few corners anyway.

 

[theederv82]

i use racing hard tires on my drift cars and i kill it on the daily

Big angle drifts?

 

[Hollidog]

UKORedgar, regardless of the tyre choice, that is some legit drifting, Ive been trying most of the day to link up the whole autumn ring mini.
On topic: for my high performance car, I use racing softs on the front and sports soft on the rear, once you get the rears past breaking point then they are actually pretty good, and hold on for a while long enough for you to nut out some high speed ones early on.
For my mid range car, (400 hp FD) I use sports hard on the front and comfort softs on the rear, works well for both.

 

[DaveM-sport]

Use Comfort Hard on the front and Comfort Medium on the rear. Especially with high performance cars.

I'll give you a chance to edit that as you clearly got something mixed up there!

It's the other way aroun or else maybe Sport hard on the front and comfort medium on the back but in the game the car is too unbalanced and the front won't slide when you need it to wash out abit when you have big angles. It works in real life depending on car and driver alright though as you don't need the front to slip alittle as you normally have far more lock and optimum geometry for big angle drifts.

 

[Duman079]

I'll give you a chance to edit that as you clearly got something mixed up there!

It's the other way aroun or else maybe Sport hard on the front and comfort medium on the back but in the game the car is too unbalanced and the front won't slide when you need it to wash out abit when you have big angles. It works in real life depending on car and driver alright though as you don't need the front to slip alittle as you normally have far more lock and optimum geometry for big angle drifts.

No for high performance cars like : Ruf or Viper this is good. HOWEVER, it depends on how you put the cambers.

Of course in real its different. You can't get better than GT though <3

 

[TwinturboCH]

what a load of total BS.

Are people still under the misconception that for drifting you want to reduce grip levels?

Smoke from either tyres is the same. Whether you manjii the length of tsukuba start finish straight in two passes or four is down to your driving style.

Seriously, read the thread, it's not about reducing grip levels, it's about the unrealistic difference between comfort and sports tyres in the game.

I'm bored of this thread now, it's getting tedious listening to people go on about how much their speed is awesome. I haven't seen a single person link Grand Valley on Sports tyres yet, and until someone can, they are unsuitable for drifting, end of. Comforst hard, medium or soft is fine, soft provide enough grip for even 900bhp cars. People on sports just think that their speed makes them amazing, well sorry, but it doesn't.

 

[Tuzmyfuz80]

Speed Drifting is Formula D. control drifting is D1GP. People may be too exposed to Formula D to understand that it is not the premier Drifting league in the world, that honour is D1GP's and will be until the Dorkin unveils his new league.

 

[Goracle]

Speed Drifting is Formula D. control drifting is D1GP. People may be too exposed to Formula D to understand that it is not the premier Drifting league in the world, that honour is D1GP's and will be until the Dorkin unveils his new league.

I cannot agree more 👍

 

[PS13Boy]

In all the rooms I've drifted in, all the "proper drifters" who are actually interested in getting close and bouncing off curbs, brushing walls etc, have been using comforts.
Then you have your "racers who drift, but can't really drift" champs that are running something much grippier, usually in a 4WD supercar, they're passing everyone on the corner entries 👍 , then spinning out mid corner. Or when do link something up they're rear ending the real drifters because they can't use their brakes...
Then you get a lot of "Dirfers" in Veyrons/R8s etc going backwards around the track and/or bashing into everyone... 👍

Drifting is about speed, yes, but also about angle, lines and smoothness...
With comforts, you get speed if you hit the right lines, you get big angle and smooth drifts...
Sports is cool for solo speed drifting in something with big power, but it's much more fun to tandem/train with comforts...

 

[Warren4649]

In all the rooms I've drifted in, all the "proper drifters" who are actually interested in getting close and bouncing off curbs, brushing walls etc, have been using comforts.
Then you have your "racers who drift, but can't really drift" champs that are running something much grippier, usually in a 4WD supercar, they're passing everyone on the corner entries 👍 , then spinning out mid corner. Or when do link something up they're rear ending the real drifters because they can't use their brakes...
Then you get a lot of "Dirfers" in Veyrons/R8s etc going backwards around the track and/or bashing into everyone... 👍

Drifting is about speed, yes, but also about angle, lines and smoothness...
With comforts, you get speed if you hit the right lines, you get big angle and smooth drifts...
Sports is cool for solo speed drifting in something with big power, but it's much more fun to tandem/train with comforts...

Hey, are you PS13 boy from the CS-junkies forum?

Also I can't agree more with your statement.

 

[Accendo]

Well atleast something good came out of this post, I give a big thanks to HKSD1 for his awesome free Tsukuba drifting lesson. I was having trouble trying to link those two left turns after the big round thingie you pass under, and then you come into the hairpin before the big straight. After watching your video I see what I was doing wrong.

Thanks

 

[Duman079]

Depends on the level of tuning!

On my 458hp NSX I've set it to 300kmh.

Try 270 👍

 

[FabRic_]

Speed Drifting is Formula D. control drifting is D1GP. People may be too exposed to Formula D to understand that it is not the premier Drifting league in the world, that honour is D1GP's and will be until the Dorkin unveils his new league.

Agreed, but D1 is fast. FD gets super fast on the big banked corners of the speedway tracks because thats what the track demands. Either way, competition drifting is a totally different ball game to streeto.

Seriously, read the thread, it's not about reducing grip levels, it's about the unrealistic difference between comfort and sports tyres in the game.

I agree the jump between the two is huge, but there are a vast majority of people that set their cars up for "drift" by adding less grippy tires and loads of -tive camber to the rear. There are situations, particularly on big/backwards entries where grip is essential. You can't say that sports tyres are unsuitable for drifting, thats a totally ridiculous statement. Just as "comfort tyres are for pros" is.

 

[DaveM-sport]

No for high performance cars like : Ruf or Viper this is good. HOWEVER, it depends on how you put the cambers.

Of course in real its different. You can't get better than GT though <3

Sorry, thats still rubbish and especially on a RUF as they are a rear engined car so front end grip is even more important.

Agreed, but D1 is fast. FD gets super fast on the big banked corners of the speedway tracks because thats what the track demands. Either way, competition drifting is a totally different ball game to streeto.



I agree the jump between the two is huge, but there are a vast majority of people that set their cars up for "drift" by adding less grippy tires and loads of -tive camber to the rear. There are situations, particularly on big/backwards entries where grip is essential. You can't say that sports tyres are unsuitable for drifting, thats a totally ridiculous statement. Just as "comfort tyres are for pros" is.

You can get much better backwards entries with comfort tyres in my opinion as well as it looking far smoother. I struggled with Sports and even Comfort softs or mediums but with Comfort hards its child's play.

 

[monsterGAUZ]

My personal attitude is: the really good drifters with wheel who also want to do tandem drifts use comfort hard or medium everytime.
I would never even use sport hard tires because this would totally kill the awesome angle and link drifting and you can't hold the same speed like your tandem partner.
With comforts you have kinda the same drift feeling like in D1 Cars or street drifters with normal street tires.
think about that: sport tires in gt5 are quiet the same like semi slicks in real life and who would drift with semislicks or even raceslicks? That would be a total waste of tires and these race tires are far to expenive to blow them off.
just for example for the real life drifting.

i don't have a personal problem with drifters who use sports or race tires but when i want to do tandem drifts, i want the others to use comforts too.

 

[phil bell]

Fellow owner with an overpowered 300zx!!
I'm using comfort softs on my z but sport hards for serious track work

 

[Hollidog]

My personal attitude is: the really good drifters with wheel who also want to do tandem drifts use comfort hard or medium everytime.
I would never even use sport hard tires because this would totally kill the awesome angle and link drifting and you can't hold the same speed like your tandem partner.
With comforts you have kinda the same drift feeling like in D1 Cars or street drifters with normal street tires.
think about that: sport tires in gt5 are quiet the same like semi slicks in real life and who would drift with semislicks or even raceslicks? That would be a total waste of tires and these race tires are far to expenive to blow them off.
just for example for the real life drifting.

i don't have a personal problem with drifters who use sports or race tires but when i want to do tandem drifts, i want the others to use comforts too.

I know for a fact that Mad Mike uses semi slicks on his 4rotor FD. And they are big slicks, thirteen inches wide. But he has to because his car has so much power, and thats what this is about, more powerful cars need to use sports, I use hards on the rear of my 450hp FD and use sports softs on the front, and it works well.

 

[why_spyder]

I don't know if I really want to jump in to the discussion again or not, but it can't be based on power alone. I know there are people with higher horsepower cars than my Z that used comforts.

In my opinion it is more based on how the car is tuned (suspension, LSD, transmission) and what you use to control the car (controller vs. wheel).

 

[Jarnac]

'tyre choice'.. higher drift scores are more difficult with grippier tyres - better drift scores will only come from tyres with less grip i.e. comfort/hard.

 

[Tuzmyfuz80]

'tyre choice'.. higher drift scores are more difficult with grippier tyres - better drift scores will only come from tyres with less grip i.e. comfort/hard.

You shouldn't be drifting for points but yes you have a higher slip on comfort which is great comfort softs are perfect for most cars

 

[Nismo34]

IMO the type of tyre shouldn't depend on how much power the car has. I have a McLaren F1 with 715hp and 960 kg and I drift fine on comfort mediums. I also have a
666hp Viper ACR on comfort hards. The only reason to tyre choice is own personal preference. Simple as that.

 

[TwinturboCH]

I know for a fact that Mad Mike uses semi slicks on his 4rotor FD. And they are big slicks, thirteen inches wide. But he has to because his car has so much power, and thats what this is about, more powerful cars need to use sports, I use hards on the rear of my 450hp FD and use sports softs on the front, and it works well.

Mike Whidett is overrated

 

[Tuzmyfuz80]

Mike Whidett is overrated

He is a great drifter but yes slightly overrated on he only runs semi-slicks in Formula D not in his true love D1NZ. Like i have said before the huge difference between D1GP and Formula D