Corvette C7

[CodeRedR51]

At the end of the day, a 10k dollar will be a 10k car and a vette will be a vette. Vettes have been one of my favorites for a very long time.

But when that $10k car can beat a stock Corvette in every performance category, it doesn't matter.

 

[xNEVER-ONEx]

But when that $10k car can beat a stock Corvette in every performance category, it doesn't matter.

Thats not why one always buys a Corvette. I like them because they look awesome, they sound awesome, and the heritage associated is awesome. If your into your uber Civics/Miatas/240SX, than so be it. But like I said, a Civic will always be a Civic, even if its faster than a Vette.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I never said anything about a Civic. In fact I owned one. I'll never own another one.

 

[xNEVER-ONEx]

I never said anything about a Civic. In fact I owned one. I'll never own another one.

To be fair, if you are talking about taking a 10k classic car and redoing with a modern touch, such as a old muscle car, than I would probably be into that, but even then, a modern sports car is hard to beat. But if your into dumping loads of cash into an otherwise cheap car, the your out of your mind.

 

[CodeRedR51]

But if your into dumping loads of cash into an otherwise cheap car, the your out of your mind.

Better than dumping loads of money into something I wouldn't care for. I'm just not that kind of person. If I ever came upon a large sum of money (lottery, etc) you wouldn't catch be buying Lambo's or Ferrari's. No, I'd build my own unique cars. 4G Eclipse GSX, new model Ford Lightning, etc, etc. Got lots of ideas. 👍

 

[xNEVER-ONEx]

Better than dumping loads of money into something I wouldn't care for. I'm just not that kind of person. If I ever came upon a large sum of money (lottery, etc) you wouldn't catch be buying Lambo's or Ferrari's. No, I'd build my own unique cars. 4G Eclipse GSX, new model Ford Lightning, etc, etc. Got lots of ideas. 👍

You better love them to death because the resale values of a "4G Eclipse GSX" is nowhere near that of a Ferrari/Lambo even if you put in the same amount of money. I see highly tuned cars all the time for sale, but their resale values are nowhere near what the owner claims to have put into those cars and occasionally their value is lower than a stock car because chances are most people are not into the type of tuning the owner did.

There is nothing wrong with owning a 10k car, just dont expect to come out winning long term if you decide to put in a lot more money into it than the car is worth.

 

[CodeRedR51]

So negative. Jeeze.

Your idea of a fun car is not my idea of a fun car. Let's just leave it at that.

 

[xNEVER-ONEx]

So negative. Jeeze.

Your idea of a fun car is not my idea of a fun car. Let's just leave it at that.

Agreed.

 

[RocZX]

Corvette Appeal To Young Buyers?


Thoughts?

Most of the people who are buying a Vette are buying it as a 2nd car and most young buyers can't afford to own a 2nd car. They need a car that is more reliable and practical, something that has a good amount of cargo space and passenger room, cause that will be their only means of transportation.

 

[YSSMAN]

So Jalopnik is asking:

How Can Chevy Make The 2014 Corvette Appeal To Young Buyers?

Honestly, I don't think GM can. Unless they make the car the same price as a V8 Camaro or Mustang younger buyers simply can't afford it for the most part. There's nothing on a Corvette that makes it worth the $60,000+ price tag in my opinion, especially when you can get a Camaro with a very similar engine for half the price and pretty similar performance.

Thoughts?

It largely depends on what they make this new Corvette out to be. By all means, as a long-time member of a GM family, and a long-time Corvette fan, I will likely be in their "target market" regardless of what they do to it. As of right now, it looks as though they intend to move the car significantly upmarket, but it also seems that they wish to offer "affordable" versions as always.

The great thing about the Corvette is that it is within reach, but it is also at a high enough cost that you have to work for it. When you've got a Corvette, to some, it means that you've "made it." It's the car that the Astronauts drove, that won races on Sunday and sold on Monday. Duntov made it a performer, but it was still civilized enough to take the Mrs. out to dinner in.

The Corvette of today has to deal with an odd bit of plurality that I don't think has been in the nature of the vehicle for quite some time. While Chevrolet needs to continue to cater to those who wish to have the car as a comfortable, daily-use, success icon... They also love to knock gloves with Porsche, SRT and whoever else is willing to give a fight. My assumption would be that we're going to see the car split into two, or maybe three separate personalities, much like the Porsche 911. On the lower-end, a luxurious sports car that is capable for day-to-day use. A track-day special somewhere in the middle, presumably a continuation of the Z06 model designation. And finally, a top-dog luxury performance blaster, likely the continuation of the ZR1 name.

...But much of this get's away from the original point...

This is what Chevrolet has to count on with young buyers:

The people at Chevrolet are smart enough to test the waters with vehicles that are going to appeal to a wide variety of buyers, and the split between the sporting end of the brand is a necessary step forward. By offering the Code at the bottom, making the Camaro a smaller and more focused middle sibling, and letting the Corvette continue it's stewardship as GM's halo car, I don't really see any problem in that run. I could go out and pick up a Code, and after a few years, graduate to either one of it's older siblings.

And while I'd certainly agree that the ZL1 is a direct competitor to the standard Corvette, they are ultimately different vehicles. Although I'd much rather have a 1LE Camaro than the majority of the Corvette lineup, a Camaro is after all just a Camaro. The Corvette will forever be more special, regardless of the performance similarities. But even then, it has largely been the same story since the Camaro showed up in 1967. With the right option boxes ticked, the Camaro was the better-driving, cheaper, and arguably better-looking option on and off. But it wasn't a Corvette.

We shall see, of course. I can foresee GM going full-force into making the Corvette a very different car to attract younger buyers. Offering more affordable models with greater performance capabilities would be a great place to start. Still, even if it is starting at $60k with a 430 BHP V8 and a seven-speed manual transmission, it's a hell of a deal compared to much of the rest of the sports car market. Even if I'd rather have a Code to begin with, part of me still very much wants a Corvette.

...Even if it is a '67 convertible, or a '91 ZR-1...

 

[Keef]

I really hate the fact that GM's entire lineup is going with Camaro styled taillights.

This is one of the others.

They aren't Camaro-style, they're Corvette-style. The Camaro has Corvette-style tail lights.

For comparison, these are the tail lights of a 1969 Camaro:

Those don't have anything to do with the lights on the current Camaro. The current Camaro's tail lights have all sorts of things to do with Corvette tail lights since the 2nd generation's facelift in 1961. Any roundish taillight Chevy has produced since then has been based on the Corvette's success.

 

[McLaren]

But when that $10k car can beat a stock Corvette in every performance category, it doesn't matter.

It's funny that performance is the only category this argument that gets debated on.

 

[rosckolove]

snip....https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7995011#post7995011

👍


I don't know why anyone would compare a Corvette... to a Mitsubishi Eclipse. You could buy a Miata and throw 40 grand into it.. But who wants to drive a Miata?

This car gets compared to the worlds finest.

 

[RACECAR]

Not sure if this was already done, but here's the live stream link to the unvieling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQGcD0TJvw&feature=player_embedded

Naturally its in countdown mode, but thought I'd share that as I didn't see it looking at the past few pages.

 

[CodeRedR51]

👍


I don't know why anyone would compare a Corvette... to a Mitsubishi Eclipse. You could buy a Miata and throw 40 grand into it.. But who wants to drive a Miata?

This car gets compared to the worlds finest.

I'll drive a Miata. It handles better anyway.

 

[rosckolove]

I'll drive a Miata. It handles better anyway.

So go build a tube frame custom go kart with a GSXR motor.

 

[CodeRedR51]

That reminds me of another project idea. Miata + Hayabusa motor = WIN.

 

[rosckolove]

Miata's are like matchbox cars though..

We are talking about the new 2014, C7 Corvette.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Yep, tiny. Like a Matchbox car. Lightweight = fun.

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[Ridox2JZGTE]

I'll drive a Miata. It handles better anyway.

This :

or this :

300+hp turbo Miata would be great on track and road, I wonder if it can beat base model C7 Corvette.

 

[CodeRedR51]

First pic no worky. And yes, turbo Miata's are beast.

 

[Minty]

The one with the red rim highlights looks like it would be a nightmare on any public road...

And the other one doesn't work. : /


All that, and I'd have to imagine the 'Vette would have a higher top end speed, be more stable and controllable at higher speeds, and at the same time be all around more pleasurable to drive on normal roads. Both in the way the suspension takes bumps and the comforts you get in the interior. Anyone can build a better track car for less, but Corvettes aren't track cars, they're road cars that can still hold their own on a track.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

The blue Miata would be perfect for off road, imagine that car on the beach , the black one, yeah, too low, but it would be perfect on track.

 

[Minty]

That's the thing, I can see myself loving the hell out of that Miata if I had it as a second car and lived near enough to a track to get some use out of it.

But with the Corvette I could see myself enjoying it whenever I get the mood to drive(The current gen at least, making an assumption for the new one) something exciting, whether I'm near a track or not. And then, hell, I could drive "4 hours"() to Watkins Glenn from here and blast it on a track day. The drive there in that Miata would be murder.

This is all assuming I had the cash to afford either. ;_;

 

[McLaren]

This :

300+hp turbo Miata would be great on track and road, I wonder if it can beat base model C7 Corvette.

Depends on how it's built. If it's stripped, roll caged & tuned correctly, then yes, it'll probably have no problem terrorizing a C7 Corvette on a track. However, at that point, it's more race car than anything & a terrible car to commute in. We have a local who can build them like this for around $20,000.
http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=45327&dateline=1338899442

If you're looking at making it livable with on the street, then it probably won't hold much against the Corvette once you get up to speed.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Depends on how it's built. If it's stripped, roll caged & tuned correctly, then yes, it'll probably have no problem terrorizing a C7 Corvette on a track. However, at that point, it's more race car than anything & a terrible car to commute in. We have a local who can build them like this for around $20,000.
http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=45327&dateline=1338899442

If you're looking at making it livable with on the street, then it probably won't hold much against the Corvette once you get up to speed.

I understand the drawbacks of modifying a less car to beat the better one, there's always that loss in comfort and practicality. I would still prefer the cheaper car like Miata as it provides similar driving pleasure of a more powerful sports car.

My kind of Miata would be sub 300HP turbo which can be driven daily, minimum turbo lag, street tuned suspension, sensible ride height, and a bit of style ( wheels, wider tires, mild bodykit ) - I think I would enjoy it as much I would enjoy a Corvette - if I ever have one

Back to topic : When will it ( C7 ) be revealed ? Today or tomorrow ?

 

[rosckolove]

C7 Corvettes guys. Not glorified Go karts.

Today in 6 hours and 40 minutes.

Edit- http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/videos/Corvette.html

 

[hostility]

Here are some recently leaked pictures:

 

[RACECAR]

Might want to go back about 3 or 4 pages, those have already been seen.

 

[G.T.Ace]

While it looks better this way than in the original drawings and quite neat, I could change some things in less than five minutes to make it look twenty times better.