Corvette C7
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Well, that seems silly. The Corvette will never be an exclusive car, this just means fewer sales and less money for GM.
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The current C6 is 3300lbs, give or take. I thought they said in the launch video that it has lost 500lbs, and they've promised to make this one under 3000lbs... So, there's a window somewhere around 2800lbs. Cramming that much power in a car that weighs as much as my Celica sounds like fun.
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It makes sense actually, at least for the first model year. Why have a bunch of Corvette's sitting in nowhere's ville not being bought when surely there will be a waitlist.
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Aside from the execution of the vents and missing quad round-ish lights I think the C7 looks fantastic.
Give me a Cyber Gray Z51 with body colored vents.
As for the dealer allocation I think it is a good idea. Not because of exclusivity, but good for more competent dealers that know how to sell these cars better.
Give me a Cyber Gray Z51 with body colored vents.
As for the dealer allocation I think it is a good idea. Not because of exclusivity, but good for more competent dealers that know how to sell these cars better.
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The C7 looks as wide as the C6 Z06, so the C7 Z06 should be a low squatty wide mean crude ass kicking monster. Can't wait.
I noticed in the GT5 model has a reverse light inside the inner middle tailights. I wonder if the turn signal will be inside the outer taillights, getting rid of the double blinking whole taillights from the previous gens.
I noticed in the GT5 model has a reverse light inside the inner middle tailights. I wonder if the turn signal will be inside the outer taillights, getting rid of the double blinking whole taillights from the previous gens.
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Cars like the Corvette sell themselves. You don't have to be King Salesman to pawn any Corvettes off to anybody. Anyone going to a Chevy dealer with Corvette in mind will not need any psychological brain scrambling to be convinced he wants one. Most people do their research on Google and Youtube before buying cars nowadays. Anyone relying on a sales pitch today is ignorant.
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Agreed. The Corvette history speaks for itself. Also does the most powerful base model and finally upgraded interior that has been the biggest gripe to date.
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The video a couple pages back estimates 3350 lbs. A bit heavy.
Not when there is competition.
Try that with someone who is convinced the car can't corner and has a cheap interior, you're not going to change that guy's mind by letting the car sell itself.
No, no brain scrambling, but some information and persuasion from the dealer might help.
All that said, the exclusive thing is dumb idea for Chrysler and GM.
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The problem is that it is the typical kind of corporate decision making that makes no regard for why it's being made. What if a dealer hasn't sold Corvettes because the current car is kind of aged? What if a dealer hasn't sold Corvettes because the location of the dealer is going through a financial slump? What if a dealer hasn't sold Corvettes because of the internal competition from other GM cars that have intruded into the Corvette's performance/price range (Camaro, namely)?
The decision basically blames the dealer for something that could be beyond the dealer's ability to solve, and it's ridiculous because of it.
The decision basically blames the dealer for something that could be beyond the dealer's ability to solve, and it's ridiculous because of it.
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If someone hasn't learned by now that the corvette can corner I don't know what to say. The whole "American cars can only go in a straight line" argument went out the window back in the late 90's, and the recent Vettes and Vipers set faster lap times than a lot of exotics that cost 3x as much. Lap times prove it, therefore the Corvette speaks for itself.
As far as the interior a simple google search will show the C7 has made vast improvements in the interior.
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That would be considerably heavier than the C6 and rather unfortunate. I doubt they've settled for an additional 200 pounds in designing the new frame.
There isn't any competition really. This is the Great American Sports Car - young boys around the country have grown up wanting nothing but a Corvette for decades. That sentiment isn't as strong as it used to be...wait, yes it is. I want this new car and I won't be able to afford one for 10 years or more. The market for Vettes in America is hearty and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
I don't believe the market for halo sports cars works like that. You either want a 911, a Ferrari, or a Vette. We're not buying Tauruses here, we're talking about objects of desire. People set life goals of owning one of these cars.
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C7 according to GT5 is 1500kgs or 3307 lbs. and 7.1 lbs/hp
The C6 Z06 is 3133 lbs. and 6.1 lbs/hp
The C6 ZR1 3325 lbs. and 5.1 lbs/hp
The C6 base model is not in GT5 but I googled and found it's 3179 lbs.
That puts the C7 at 128 lbs heavier than the C6. But it's got more power and upgraded interior/suspension/aero
The C6 Z06 is 3133 lbs. and 6.1 lbs/hp
The C6 ZR1 3325 lbs. and 5.1 lbs/hp
The C6 base model is not in GT5 but I googled and found it's 3179 lbs.
That puts the C7 at 128 lbs heavier than the C6. But it's got more power and upgraded interior/suspension/aero
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Alright, replace "can't corner" with "not as well as other cars". Either way, misconceptions can still exist. I certainly think there is room for persuasion when it comes to buy sports cars. Certainly, being able to test drive a car will probably have some impact on one's decision.
It seems odd to me as well, and I hope it's not true, but that's the only number I've seen so far.
I agree that desire for the car is strong, but there is competition. Some from within GM itself, depending on who is buying and what they're looking for. All the suped up Mustangs and Camaros are probably tempting for people who will never visit a track. If people aren't yet convinced that the Corvette is as good as [Car X], and some aren't yet, they might be willing to fork over the extra money for that car or settle for something that costs about the same even if it isn't quite as fast (Cayman?).
Competition doesn't come from Corvette loyalists, that is for sure.
I'm sure what you described is how it works a lot of the time, but not all the time. I'd say you classified me quite well, but take away my number 1 pick and the choice gets a little murky. I also wouldn't hesitate to switch allegiances if I found out my favorite car was suddenly no longer the best at what it did because the competition figured out how to do it better.
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I'm not sure if you are talking about just the base model Vette. The recent best drivers car by Motortrend ran hotlaps around Laguna Seca 2 different years. In both years the C6 Z06 was faster than any other car, including the 458 Italia, Aventador, MP4-12c, Porsche GT3, Lexus LFA, etc. Only the most recent ZR1 posted a faster time.Exorcet
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I know it's just a videogame, but I ran a faster time with the C7 around Suzuka Circuit than I did with the Audi R8 V8 and Aston Martin DB9, and 4 seconds faster than the 2006 Viper SRT10, but only 1.6 seconds quicker than the 2010 Camaro SS. The Ferrari F430 Scuderia is 3.5 seconds faster than the C7.
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You don't need to convince me that the Corvette is a fast car. I'm not posting things that I necessarily believe, but things that people who might be interested in a Corvette might believe.
Also, bring up MT a couple years back they brought out a ton of telemetry during their comparison and the Corvette (along with Viper ACR) were shown to be a little less adept at quick transitions than some of the other cars. I don't think they brought the same data for the 1:34 Z06 time.
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I would not compare the cars real life weight to the in game KG...
If they don't have the information posted ANYWHERE, Its not going to be in GT5.
And I think the car is going to be at least 100 pounds less than the C6.
Am I allowed to post links to another forum here?
If they don't have the information posted ANYWHERE, Its not going to be in GT5.
And I think the car is going to be at least 100 pounds less than the C6.
Am I allowed to post links to another forum here?
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Wasn't it already mentioned that the new frame is 99lbs lighter than the outgoing base frame? I also thought they mentioned that this C7 will be the lightest modern day Corvette? I think we shouldn't count on a video game of "final prototype" model for information. My bet, is that it'll either way as much as current base C6 or just slightly lighter. Of course nobody knows so we'll just have to wait and see!
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Hmmm... I actually like the C7 better. I hate the rear end of the F12 too.
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