COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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You are the Best trump !
idiot.


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Seems this may be even worse, since China is not putting out the real numbers... Asia could very well be #1 here...

I still dont understand why politicians are downplaying the numbers...
(rethorical question), they fear people see through their stupid decisions as public figures...

I found this one earlier.

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Is the USA putting out real numbers?

It's doubtful. Many states are putting out accurate numbers, or at least as accurate as they can be, but there are some states *cough* Florida *cough* that aren't. Also, states can only report what's sent to their health departments. Not every place is sending results to those health departments for one reason or another.
 
Is the USA putting out real numbers?
Washington State DOH puts out daily counts of confirmed cases, reported deaths and reported tests. Conflicts in the numbers are sometimes noted in the reports. Data are removed when they are found to pertain to out-of-state residents, and death counts are revised when COVID was not the primary cause.
These are counts always accompanied by a disclaimer, "The state has struggled to report timely and accurate COVID-19 data amid software glitches and lagging results. It does not always report negative test numbers and doesn't provide data on recoveries."

We can see a recent trend. Confirmed new daily cases have well exceeded the April peak, but reported deaths are down by comparison. The very old no longer seem to be the bulk of the cases, but the cohort 20-39 are now getting 37% of all cases. There are 39 counties in the state, and each one is on its own lockdown schedule.
 
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Washington State DOH puts out daily counts of confirmed cases, reported deaths and reported tests. Conflicts in the numbers are sometimes noted in the reports. Data are removed when they are found to pertain to out-of-state residents, and death counts are revised when COVID was not the primary cause.
These are counts always accompanied by a disclaimer, "The state has struggled to report timely and accurate COVID-19 data amid software glitches and lagging results. It does not always report negative test numbers and doesn't provide data on recoveries."

We can see a recent trend. Confirmed new daily cases have well exceeded the April peak, but reported deaths are down by comparison. The very old no longer seem to be the bulk of the cases, but the cohort 20-39 are now getting 37% of all cases. There are 39 counties in the state, and each one is on its own lockdown schedule.
Don't forget that the death peak is going to lag behind the case peak by a couple of weeks.
 
America #1

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You are the Best trump !
idiot.


Edit:
Seems this may be even worse, since China is not putting out the real numbers... Asia could very well be #1 here...

I still dont understand why politicians are downplaying the numbers...
(rethorical question), they fear people see through their stupid decisions as public figures...

Are the rest of the Asia putting out real numbers? Places like HK, Japan and Taiwan barely have any cases so they must be telling lies too.

This is a culture thing, Asians in general treat this outbreak very seriously because they all went through the SARS outbreak in 2003.
 
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Are the rest of the Asia putting out real numbers? Places like HK, Japan and Taiwan barely have any cases so they must be telling lies too.

This is a culture thing, Asians in general treat this outbreak very seriously because they all went through the SARS outbreak in 2003.
India has been reporting some pretty high numbers as of late. I’m pretty sure Iran and Pakistan are on the rise in cases too. They’re all part of Asia; it’s just that there’s a difference between east Asia and central/southern Asia. India, Pakistan and Iran weren’t hit that much by SARS if I remember right.
 
Seeing how there are a lot of morons who find it completely acceptable to sit in a plane with 200 others for a couple of hours to get drunk on the sunny beaches of southern Europe we will see the numbers rise again in Europe quite soon.
 
Seeing how there are a lot of morons who find it completely acceptable to sit in a plane with 200 others for a couple of hours to get drunk on the sunny beaches of southern Europe we will see the numbers rise again in Europe quite soon.
 
See, I have an extremely difficult time believing that sitting in a closed tube with air recirculation with a lot of others is low risk travelling, when we've been told for months now to keep 1,5-2 meters distance from others.
Sounds like the air filtration systems on planes are better than we've been giving them credit for. The guy whose tweet I posted has earned himself a pretty solid reputation here over the last couple of months which I don't see him throwing away on a BS retweet.
 
Sounds like the air filtration systems on planes are better than we've been giving them credit for. The guy whose tweet I posted has earned himself a pretty solid reputation here over the last couple of months which I don't see him throwing away on a BS retweet.

Okay, I've heard that before, if you say he has a solid reputation I'll believe that, but then we get to the next problem of those drunk people on the beaches. Have you seen how the first days of open bars went in the UK? It was marginally better here and in Germany, but when the hours go by, the social distancing fades away.

Currently in Portugal, Albufeira to be precise :

https://www.dumpert.nl/item/7945813_ab88514c
https://www.dumpert.nl/item/7945901_6ff752dc

Portuguese police isn't as friendly as the Dutch police, as the kiddos find out:
https://www.dumpert.nl/item/7945899_e598f134

And in Belgium :

https://www.dumpert.nl/item/7945871_a7374d7d
 
See, I have an extremely difficult time believing that sitting in a closed tube with air recirculation with a lot of others is low risk travelling, when we've been told for months now to keep 1,5-2 meters distance from others.

Sounds like the air filtration systems on planes are better than we've been giving them credit for. The guy whose tweet I posted has earned himself a pretty solid reputation here over the last couple of months which I don't see him throwing away on a BS retweet.

I did a quick search on this. It looks like the air filtration on planes is pretty good, but not good enough to keep you from getting it from someone seated near you. Now, if that person has a mask on, you might be in pretty good shape. So the point here is that the person who is sick (even if they don't know it) needs to have a mask. I haven't flown since before all of this started, so I don't know if that's a requirement to get on and stay on the plane. If they're serving food, people might be taking masks off to eat.

Regardless, don't forget eye protection on the plane. Your mask only does you so much good if the person to your right sneezes and a particle ends up on your eye.

This epidemiologist thinks he got it through his eyes on a plane.

https://www.today.com/video/dr-jose...i-got-coronavirus-through-my-eyes-83456069750
 
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not about to start defending the actions of people at their destinations. I'm just relaying the info that flight may not be a cesspit of transmission.
 
My dad --who has had pneumonia a few times, has underlying heart conditions, diabetes, and is overweight-- believes 100% that if were to get the virus he wouldn't be asymptomatic and being a pessimist thinks he'll be a textbook case of worse case scenario. It's really starting to bother me to the point that I'd be pissed if he ends up having it and being asymptomatic and then we get it too because he showed no signs. Yesterday he felt dizzy which is a thing that happens to him sometimes for other reasons but I told him to get a test just in case. He wouldn't do it because like I said, he believes he if he had it he would 100% have known.

Just because you're elderly and immunocompromised doesn't mean you will show symptoms. It's not like that, right?
 
Just because you're elderly and immunocompromised doesn't mean you will show symptoms. It's not like that, right?

I have noticed that it's mostly the young and stupid, and the ignorant elderly who keep being stupid and ignorant about the pandemic. And the lowlifes who use facebook as their main source of information of course, but they're out protesting against 5G cell towers, so we don't take them serious at all.
 
I did a quick search on this. It looks like the air filtration on planes is pretty good, but not good enough to keep you from getting it from someone seated near you. Now, if that person has a mask on, you might be in pretty good shape. So the point here is that the person who is sick (even if they don't know it) needs to have a mask. I haven't flown since before all of this started, so I don't know if that's a requirement to get on and stay on the plane. If they're serving food, people might be taking masks off to eat.

Regardless, don't forget eye protection on the plane. Your mask only does you so much good if the person to your right sneezes and a particle ends up on your eye.

This epidemiologist thinks he got it through his eyes on a plane.

https://www.today.com/video/dr-jose...i-got-coronavirus-through-my-eyes-83456069750
The tweet I posted does state to wear a mask, and the 4 who did get COVID weren't wearing one properly. If you get it through your eye, that is plain unlucky.


@DesertPenguin - to my understanding, not necessarily, but he would be a far higher risk of getting a nasty case than young, healthy folks.
 
The tweet I posted does state to wear a mask, and the 4 who did get COVID weren't wearing one properly. If you get it through your eye, that is plain unlucky.

I don't think it's that unlucky to be honest. They're not exactly the tiniest of targets (eyes). The person who got it (from that tweet) was sitting near 4 people who had it and weren't wearing their mask properly. Meaning they were spreading it, and that this is a situation you might find yourself in no matter what you do to protect yourself. If I were sitting near 4 people who had COVID and weren't wearing their mask properly, I sure as hell would want eye protection.
 
It is somewhat infuriating that some people only seem to care about it if and when it affects them personally, or someone they know... by which point, they may have played an active part in ensuring that thousands of others pay a heavy price.

Meanwhile, the US has recorded almost as many new cases in a single day as Belgium (which at one point had the highest infection rate in the world) has had in total. That is a staggering number of new cases, and unless a lot of people change their behaviour very quickly, it is likely to get a lot worse. Indeed, for many states currently seeing a massive uptick, it is already too late.

New York, however, continues to see no increase in new cases yet - it is, however, probably due to a combination of factors (better lockdown measures, mask-wearing, and possibly an element of increased immunity) as opposed to say herd immunity, for which their is growing evidence to suggest may not be forthcoming.
 
It is somewhat infuriating that some people only seem to care about it if and when it affects them personally, or someone they know... by which point, they may have played an active part in ensuring that thousands of others pay a heavy price.

Meanwhile, the US has recorded almost as many new cases in a single day as Belgium (which at one point had the highest infection rate in the world) has had in total. That is a staggering number of new cases, and unless a lot of people change their behaviour very quickly, it is likely to get a lot worse. Indeed, for many states currently seeing a massive uptick, it is already too late.

New York, however, continues to see no increase in new cases yet - it is, however, probably due to a combination of factors (better lockdown measures, mask-wearing, and possibly an element of increased immunity) as opposed to say herd immunity, for which their is growing evidence to suggest may not be forthcoming.
New Jersey is now requiring face masks in public. According to this site, Rate of Transmission, the Rt is at 1.07. NY is at 1.04 and Connecticut, which has been just as aggressive, is at 0.84. All of these are estimates.
 
Meanwhile, the US has recorded almost as many new cases in a single day as Belgium (which at one point had the highest infection rate in the world) has had in total. That is a staggering number of new cases, and unless a lot of people change their behaviour very quickly, it is likely to get a lot worse. Indeed, for many states currently seeing a massive uptick, it is already too late.
I can't speak for others, but Texas def. has its huge share of Covid-skeptics who all have their own conspiracy theories from, "if 1 person gets tested 2-3 times, that person gets counted as 2-3 in case count, so the counts are inflated" to one that contradicts that, "there's more undocumented cases out there than what's being reported, so it's far less deadlier than being shared". Either the cases are no where as high as claimed, or they are & the mortality rate is even lower, it can't go both ways.

The more recent one being spread is, "people I know got in line for a test, left after 2 hours without getting tested, and were called later on to say they were tested positive".

Look, I know our healthcare gets a ton of flak, but I remain inclined to believe the system behind Covid testing is a lot more structurally sound than some Dr./Nurse/Whoever willfully calling people on a list to tell them they're Positive/Negative if their records aren't showing a swab/blood sample to begin with. "Hey did this person on our list have a sample taken? No? Ok, I'll call them & tell them their results". I think far more credit is deserved than that. At best with the huge backlogs, I would believe there's been some instances where names were mixed up on lab results resulting in a wrong call, but that call would still only done with a sample result attached on record to warrant it.

The theories just get dumber & dumber with no basis besides coincidental, anecdotal evidence. At least when the skeptics tout how hospitals are "inclined to diagnose" a Covid-positive patient so they get $35-38,000 from the govt., that can actually be explained as the average cost of care. As I understood it from Dr. Mike, yes, sometimes hospital care comes in under that cost for 1 patient, but another patient could just easily exceed that given money causing a "loss" in cost-to-treat that specific case.
 
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Can I just lock myself in my apartment for the next 5 years? That would be nice actually. Curious to know if and how much the suicide rates have gone up since this 🤬 started.
 
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