COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

[CBH]

Over the weekend, my local Costco got cleared out of water and toilet paper. People are acting like it's the end of the world...

It is also happening in Australia some supermarkets are selling out of toilet paper and long life milk, and as you said people are acting like it's the end of the world.

 

[Barra333]

That's always been the funny thing about pop. 2l's are generally $.99 while a 20oz is a $1.50. Makes no sense.

Every time I've seen that sort of pricing, the smaller, more expensive one is cold. Pay a premium for the refrigeration.

 

[DDastardly00]

Friend of mine was at a Costco on Monday and they overheard someone who looked like a store manager say "Yesterday was the best single day sales record ever for this store". I bet it was indeed. This might end up being one of the best Qtr: 1 for retail sales in years. It also might be one of the worst the travel industry at the same time.

 

[Blitz24]

That's comforting. Newest case in NYC area occurred in an Orthodox synagogue in Westchester county with an individual who did not travel outside of the US.

 

[DDastardly00]

That's comforting. Newest case in NYC area occurred in an Orthodox synagogue in Westchester county with an individual who did not travel outside of the US.

This is even less comforting. So the newest data on COVID-19 increases the incubation time to possibly up to 38 days (previously 14 days). That means people who contracted this virus have been walking around for a month if not more, potentially spreading it to everyone. It's worth mentioning that not everyone who contracts this thing shows symptoms, so they would have no reason to get tested. That's what makes this thing more deadly than SARS, it's far more stealthy making it harder to detect.

 

[Blitz24]

This is even less comforting. So the newest data on COVID-19 increases the incubation time to possibly up to 38 days (previously 14 days). That means people who contracted this virus have been walking around for a month if not more, potentially spreading it to everyone. It's worth mentioning that not everyone who contracts this thing shows symptoms, so they would have no reason to get tested. That's what makes this thing more deadly than SARS, it's far more stealthy making it harder to detect.

I just found out that my sister in law's kids' day school is under quarantine. Unsure if that means the kids also need to remain at home.

 

[Danoff]

I just found out that my sister in law's kids' day school is under quarantine. She can go to work, but the kids cannot leave the house.

Time to sign up for Disney+

 

[DDastardly00]

I just found out that my sister in law's kids' day school is under quarantine. She can go to work, but the kids cannot leave the house.

Sorry to hear that, hope she can work from home, if not then she should be able to take vacation or perhaps a leave of absence.

Here is the source for the 38 day incubation claim:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...dd19de-54ea-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html

Authorities discovered Friday that a 70-year-old man in Hubei was confirmed as infected after 27 days in isolation, while a man in Jiangxi province tested positive after 14 days of centralized quarantine and five days of isolation at home. On Thursday, authorities reported that a man in Hubei had tested positive for coronavirus after what appeared to be a 38-day incubation period with no symptoms.

And isn't this interesting....

The State Department, meanwhile, is battling thousands of Russian-linked social-media accounts promoting baseless theories that the United States created the coronavirus outbreak, according to the AFP. The accounts post “almost near identical” messages at similar times in five languages, the report says.

And this:

Meanwhile, scientists in China reported indications that the virus might be transmissible through urine.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the window for containment has passed. It's here folks, hope everyone is ready.

 

[Blitz24]

Sorry to hear that, hope she can work from home, if not then she should be able to take vacation or perhaps a leave of absence.

Here is the source for the 38 day incubation claim:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...dd19de-54ea-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html



And isn't this interesting....



And this:

It's a good thing then that if I contract the disease my boss will fire me because I am a contractor and I'm not allowed to work from home!

 

[DDastardly00]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the window for containment has passed. It's here folks, hope everyone is ready.

I forget where but one of the 'Medical experts' was saying in the media on Monday that the time for containment is long past and that they should be focused on mitigating new exposures of this virus now because that approach would be far more effective at this point.

 

[Rallywagon]

I feel like this virus is getting over hyped like a Michael Bay movie. Im just sitting here with my popcorn watching all the craziness unfold but feeling like once its all over it was all flash and no substance.
Now don't get me wrong, that's also the outcome im hoping for, but man, chicken little is really coming to mind right now. On the plus side, looks like that may work out for the home loan I'll be taking out soon.

 

[zzz_pt]

Yesterday went to buy some stuff at my local ALDI supermarket and it was half empty. Not sure if this is a coincidence or not, but I've never seen it so empty.

No rice, no pasta, no beans, only 1 pack of meat (that I got for my dinner) and tones of other products almost out of stock.

I'm curious to see how it is today.

 

[McLaren]

One of my buddies from our trip finally went back to work today. He was promptly met by his boss with a box containing everything he would need to work from home; they had decided in the last couple days he will be under a 2 week quarantine from the office.

 

[baldgye]

...like a Michael Bay movie.

On no, it’s worse than we all feared!

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I went to this Kroger today at about 4:10 pm. I saw one lady with a shopping cart full of flats of liter, or smaller water bottles, but other than that, things seemed normal. I didn't walk down the toilet paper isle or look for sanitizer.

 

[Touring Mars]

Every place I've tried is out of hand sanitizer - and things like Dettol wipes are also gone too (lucky I stocked up on them last week...) I'm also glad I told my sister to buy a few things, and she bought hand sanitizer. I don't think it will be long before there are shortages of other things in the UK too...

Today the UK Government said that they are planning for a period of 12 weeks disruption... but added that there was no reason to panic-buy. That is pretty much a green light for people to start panic-buying.

I advised my sister and Mum to do some extra shopping to cover a bare minimum of two weeks - with the idea of tiding them over any period where panic-buying sets in and supplies of essentials runs low. I reckon that was a good plan, but hopefully the 'panic-buying' phase will pass relatively quickly... though I expect larger stores could introduce limits on items (e.g. 1 per person) if it continues to cause issues.

 

[baldgye]

Every place I've tried is out of hand sanitizer - and things like Dettol wipes are also gone too (lucky I stocked up on them last week...) I'm also glad I told my sister to buy a few things, and she bought hand sanitizer. I don't think it will be long before there are shortages of other things in the UK too...

Today the UK Government said that they are planning for a period of 12 weeks disruption... but added that there was no reason to panic-buy. That is pretty much a green light for people to start panic-buying.

I advised my sister and Mum to do some extra shopping to cover a bare minimum of two weeks - with the idea of tiding them over any period where panic-buying sets in and supplies of essentials runs low. I reckon that was a good plan, but hopefully the 'panic-buying' phase will pass relatively quickly... though I expect larger stores could introduce limits on items (e.g. 1 per person) if it continues to cause issues.

As a city dweller, hand sanitises have been hard to come by for a week or so now but antibacterial hand-wash is still about. I've not see mad panic buying, but I did follow your example and order some extra wine.


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I get the fun task of trying to come up with contingency plans for my team of guys, which basically consists of, don't be stupid and if the schools close we're ****ed.

 

[I-Runner]

Italy death toll rises to 52

The total number of cases in Italy has risen to more than 2,000, and the death toll has risen from 18 to 52, officials say.
Italy has the highest number of cases outside China. Today's figure is up from 1,694 confirmed cases yesterday.

UPDATE
the total number of cases (c/w deaths and recovered) is ~2260, deaths 80 (the younger was 62 yo ..)

IR

 

[TJ13]

So NH
1st coronavirus patient a hospital employee was told to stay home ends up going to an event in Vermont and a person from the event that was in close contact has now contracted the virus.

So that's well yea.

 

[Blitz24]

So NH
1st coronavirus patient a hospital employee was told to stay home ends up going to an event in Vermont and a person from the event that was in close contact has now contracted the virus.

So that's well yea.

I wonder, do you charge these people fines or what? Aside from lacking a brain, the person lacks any decency as well.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I wonder, do you charge these people fines or what? Aside from lacking a brain, the person lacks any decency as well.

Is there an argument for a public endangerment offence having been committed?

 

[Blitz24]

Is there an argument for a public endangerment offence having been committed?

I'd argue yes. If a person is infected and dies from their negligence after direct warning to not go out in public, I can easily see a lawsuit.

 

[Barra333]

The epidemiologist-in-chief is at it again...

Whoever spoke second was incredibly restrained by adding 'probably' to his response.

 

[Liquid]

Is there an argument for a public endangerment offence having been committed?

I think it's possible to be prosecuted for knowingly spreading HIV/AIDS to people without their knowledge, consent, et cetera.

It might be possible to try the same for the coronavirus if it is deemed that great a risk like HIV/AIDS. But even if the defendant did it knowingly, it might be hard to prove that they did it maliciously.

 

[Rallywagon]

I mean, are were going to start prosecuting people thai go out or to work who have a cold or the flu?

 

[Barra333]

I mean, are were going to start prosecuting people thai go out or to work who have a cold or the flu?

Not even close to being the same.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I mean, are were going to start prosecuting people thai go out or to work who have a cold or the flu?

I doubt that such an attempt would gain much traction. I don't see the relevance though, it has nothing to do with people who've been told to stay at home after being diagnosed with COVID-19 then going to busy public places.

 

[Rallywagon]

Not even close to being the same.

Is it not though? Influenza can be equally as deadly.

 

[baldgye]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...who-global-recession-fears-update-latest-news

Live update link

• Number of confirmed cases in UK jumps to 85
• Italy to close all schools across the nation
• It looks like the (already troubled) British airline FlyBe risks becoming one of the first airlines to succumb to the turbulence being thrown up by the new coronavirus.

The number of coronavirus cases in the UK has risen by 34 in a day, to a total of 85.
Twenty-nine had recently travelled to affected countries or picked it up from people known to have travelled from abroad.

But three more contracted the virus in the UK and no one knows where they got it from.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51741001