COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)
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Isn't that essentially incitement to terrorism?
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I'm not familiar with UK law (though it may well be a formality anyway because I gather there is no establishment of protected speech), but in United States jurisprudence there is an imminence requirement for speech to be considered incitement to unlawful action, and really unless an individual speaks in person to others who then immediately set off to perpetrate unlawful acts, that requirement isn't likely to be satisfied.
I ****ing love my country.
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Delighted to see that Piers Corbyn has been arrested
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This is disappointing. I'm reading reactions to this today and I'm thinking it has to be at least as bad as the Piers Corbyn thing, however bad one feels that is.
It's not.
In reality, he's compelled to use this kind of sensational rhetoric because this conspiracy he's talking about is as old as the pandemic itself and nothing has come of it so far. Without the big talk, it falls completely flat.
It's not.
In reality, he's compelled to use this kind of sensational rhetoric because this conspiracy he's talking about is as old as the pandemic itself and nothing has come of it so far. Without the big talk, it falls completely flat.
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I was talking to my nephew in Singapore just now who tells me this policy is now in operation since Wednesday:
www.bloomberg.com
Singapore’s Unvaccinated Will Have to Foot $18,000 Covid Bills Now
Covid patients in Singapore who choose not to get vaccinated could face high medical bills, as one of the most immunized societies in the world ramps up the pressure to get more shots in arms.
www.bloomberg.com
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I don't think we've heard much on T-cells. So I found a study: https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/n...obust-tcell-response-to-mrna-covid19-vaccines
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In case you needed any more proof that masks save lives:
This is a study that was published in the American Journal of Preventative Medicine. The important bit is as follows:
Modeling COVID-19 Mortality Across 44 Countries: Face Covering May Reduce Deaths
This is a study that was published in the American Journal of Preventative Medicine. The important bit is as follows:
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Been suffering since Sunday with flu like symptoms. Shivering, sweating, painful joints, little bit chesty (asthmatic). Basically all of the omicron symptoms.
Noone else in the house is suffering and all my lateral flows so far have returned negative so hoping it is indeed a cold and not the dreaded proverbial. One thing I will say while feeling like this is you don't half chomp at the bit to get your booster. I so want to feel better so I can go and get the needle.
Noone else in the house is suffering and all my lateral flows so far have returned negative so hoping it is indeed a cold and not the dreaded proverbial. One thing I will say while feeling like this is you don't half chomp at the bit to get your booster. I so want to feel better so I can go and get the needle.
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After the huge omicron outbreak at my school, they just sent an email saying they are requiring booster shots for next semester
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Covidiots. I like that.
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While I cannot envision a lockdown, I will be surprised if private businesses will not start requiring visitors to mask up again. The numbers won't be going down for at least the next two weeks and people are still walking around in buildings sans masks.
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While I can see masks being a thing again the numbers are going to be through the roof for possibly 4 weeks then it'll calm down and everyone would have had it and then we don't have to worry about covidiots anymore.
From SA it appears they have peaked in Gauteng and is falling and most of those cases and hospitalization is through other means.
I am hoping that is true and we don't drag this on for longer than it should be.
I want to go to my destination and I can't if the US drags it's feet to reduce the number when the number is probably 2x more than what it is now.
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That gif, so amply demonstrating what Birx had to deal with, is utterly depressing 
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Today though there's some hopefully good news about Omicron in another study from South Africa, finding that Omicron cases are maybe 80% less likely to be hospitalised than from other variants. Huge caveat over what role the high previous infection rate vs low vaccination rate has to play.
www.medrxiv.org
Similar findings in Scotland but with much smaller numbers:
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UK has hit a new record of 106k recorded cases today, after bouncing around about 95k for a few days. TBH there are so many factors in those figures that it's not a particularly useful one to watch. The Zoe covid study's estimate today is 144k. Both have some lag. Unclear whether we'll get an update from the ONS on Friday, but in any case it has even more lag.
Better to look at London:
Cases were hovering around 3k to 4k per day but recently peaked (?) at 26k.
Testing has doubled however the positivity rate is also up, from about 5% to about 20% - this is well into the kind of levels that mean many cases are missed, IMO (the opposite of "more testing means more cases", since that only applies if case rates are stable).
Admissions are up three-fold to 300/day, although there have been reports that about 50% were incidental findings ('with' not 'from') a few days ago. If that's true, it could be an even higher % now.
Deaths are continuing to fall, under 100/day now, but of course it's too early to see how the latest surge in admissions will turn out.
Re admissions, in Dec 2019, London region had about 84k non-elective and 102k elective admissions, so a bit over 6k per day (ref). Although those numbers may be lower this month, particularly elective, it's easy to see how the number of incidental findings of COVID can be quite high given the expected prevalence of COVID in London right now.
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Today though there's some hopefully good news about Omicron in another study from South Africa, finding that Omicron cases are maybe 80% less likely to be hospitalised than from other variants. Huge caveat over what role the high previous infection rate vs low vaccination rate has to play.
Early assessment of the clinical severity of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in South Africa
Background The SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant of concern (VOC) almost completely replaced other variants in South Africa during November 2021, and was associated with a rapid increase in COVID-19 cases. We aimed to assess clinical severity of individuals infected with Omicron, using S Gene Target...
Similar findings in Scotland but with much smaller numbers:
Omicron wave appears milder, but concern remains
The risk of needing hospital treatment could be 30 - 70% lower with Omicron than other variants.
www.bbc.co.uk
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UK has hit a new record of 106k recorded cases today, after bouncing around about 95k for a few days. TBH there are so many factors in those figures that it's not a particularly useful one to watch. The Zoe covid study's estimate today is 144k. Both have some lag. Unclear whether we'll get an update from the ONS on Friday, but in any case it has even more lag.
Better to look at London:
Cases were hovering around 3k to 4k per day but recently peaked (?) at 26k.
Testing has doubled however the positivity rate is also up, from about 5% to about 20% - this is well into the kind of levels that mean many cases are missed, IMO (the opposite of "more testing means more cases", since that only applies if case rates are stable).
Admissions are up three-fold to 300/day, although there have been reports that about 50% were incidental findings ('with' not 'from') a few days ago. If that's true, it could be an even higher % now.
Deaths are continuing to fall, under 100/day now, but of course it's too early to see how the latest surge in admissions will turn out.
Re admissions, in Dec 2019, London region had about 84k non-elective and 102k elective admissions, so a bit over 6k per day (ref). Although those numbers may be lower this month, particularly elective, it's easy to see how the number of incidental findings of COVID can be quite high given the expected prevalence of COVID in London right now.
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Has there been an official release of this modelling yet? Curious to know which of the estimates are worst case and which might actually be realistic - it appears to be something of a mixture! (admissions/case appears to allow for some degree of vaccine protection / reduced severity, however, deaths/admission seems to go very far the other way for the high estimate).
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The FDA has approved the Pfizer COVID at-home treatment known as Paxlovid. Patients will need to start taking it within 5 days of the onset of symptoms and it's 3 pills taken twice daily for 5 days. Per Pfizer's trials, it results in a 90% reduction in hospitalization. If it works as well as they claim it does, it'll be similar to Tamiflu in terms of helping people, which is certainly a good thing. What's even better is that children weighing at least 88lbs can take the drug too, which would put it right around the 9-10 year old range if you go by the pediatric growth chart.
apnews.com
Looks like I'm canceling my time off plans for next week
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Pfizer pill becomes 1st US-authorized home COVID treatment
The U.S. has authorized the first pill against COVID-19, a Pfizer drug that Americans can take at home to reduce the risk of hospitalization and death.
apnews.com
Looks like I'm canceling my time off plans for next week
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This is the first I’ve really heard about this, I don’t watch/read a ton of news, so maybe this is old, but I’ve seen several articles on this today:
www.newsweek.com
Super Vaccine Effective Against All COVID Variants Created by Army
Army scientists have been working on the 'long game' vaccine for two years, anticipating that the virus would mutate.
www.newsweek.com
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Wasn’t the military at one time giving soldiers, what I guess was experimental/new at the time, an anthrax fighting shot that the public did not have access to?This is the first I’ve really heard about this, I don’t watch/read a ton of news, so maybe this is old, but I’ve seen several articles on this today:
Super Vaccine Effective Against All COVID Variants Created by Army
Army scientists have been working on the 'long game' vaccine for two years, anticipating that the virus would mutate.
Would seem on point if they were doing something similar for Covid.
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