COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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I wonder how large the ditches in China are, as I don't believe the official numbers for one bit.
Maybe the exact veracity of the official numbers really don't matter all that much? The point is, China seems to have quelled the virus by swift and decisive if authoritarian measures. Perhaps South Korea has turned the corner. The Italian government has shut down absolutely everything. Perhaps that too will work once a few oldsters have passed. The US seems to have done little other than symbolically through half-hearted travel restrictions.
 
This is an actual excerpt from Boris Johnson's official statement on coronavirus from No. 10 Downing Street:

Other top advice from the Prime Minister:

- Remember to use your warmed silk napkin when accepting a chalice at the Savile Club
- Get your Fortnum & Mason hampers home delivered; do not risk venturing outdoors
- Carefully hand-iron each £50 note you donate to the local hunt
- Telephone in advance if you require an upgrade to a first class suite for your British Airways flight to Tahiti
 
I was hoping you'd say that. I've heard nothing about this...

If our great leader had any creativity, they would be working out ways to incentivize this sort of thing. College financial credit for young people willing to volunteer? Treat it as a sort of military service.

I think one of our great weaknesses at the moment is the complete lack of civic responsibility and severe institutional mistrust. Combine that with rampant self-interest and we are primed for runaway contagion.
 
UK government moving their response from contain to delay.

-anyone who has even minor symptoms to stay at home for 7 days
-public sporting events will not be banned but is being considered
-Chief Scientific Officer says its likely that 5-10,000 people in the UK infected at the moment.
-Schools, colleges and universities to remain open
 
I think one of our great weaknesses at the moment is the complete lack of civic responsibility and severe institutional mistrust. Combine that with rampant self-interest and we are primed for runaway contagion.
I say you are correct.

There are eras in which errors are made by omission. Also there are periods of time in which errors are made by commission. I think we are at a moment of danger and change in which correct choices should be made swiftly and decisively. Just now, failure to act swiftly and decisively is an error of commission. Division and partisanship need to be put aside in order address the greater problems of pandemic and economic malaise.
 
UK government moving their response from contain to delay.

-anyone who has even minor symptoms to stay at home for 7 days
-public sporting events will not be banned but is being considered
-Chief Scientific Officer says its likely that 5-10,000 people in the UK infected at the moment.
-Schools, colleges and universities to remain open
I liked the bit where one of the chaps said that they didn’t want to stop sporting events because if one person is infected, they’ll probably only infect between 2-3 other people max... hahaha... I mean... it’s pretty funny, our government is trying to beat China with the sheer number of infected
 
The city of Columbus just announced that "mass gatherings of 100 or more people" are banned until further notice. We really are getting ready to shut the whole darn world down, I guess.
 
Ohio Governor Mike Dewine declared all Ohio Schools to go on a mandatory 3 week spring break starting Monday.
 
French President Macron says schools and universities across the country will be closed from Monday

Now debate in NL: Why are we not closing schools as in kindergarten, primary school and further education like all other countries. Italy already warned us not to underestimate this situation.
 
Zip wrap here in Peru:

In less than 2 weeks, we passed from 0 to 22 cases from people who returned from Europe (albeit they all are stable doing well in recovery), all districts' public activities, sports, college and schools are suspended 'till March 30 for prevention, and all supermarkets are off the sheds in people's consume (specially essentials like toilet paper and pet food). Also, all hospitals are giving one shot of hand sanitizer to all entries to prevent spreading.







There's even rumors of pulling an Italy and quarintine the whole country.
 
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NCAA has canceled the tournament. A day after they said it would be in empty arenas.
Soon it'll be NASCAR and all other sports.

So this is what the end is. Everyone saying inside with lots of TP and hand stuff.
 
17 infected in Estonia.

Movie theatres are allowing no more that 100 people to visit the seance. Mass gatherings, concerts are cancelled. Some schools are closed.
Bus drivers are blocking front seats and doors.

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(In the meantime there are 400+ people in hospitals with flu virus. 10 died this year.)
 
NCAA has canceled the tournament. A day after they said it would be in empty arenas.
Soon it'll be NASCAR and all other sports.

So this is what the end is. Everyone saying inside with lots of TP and hand stuff.
MLB and the NHL are both suspended as well. NASCAR and IndyCAR both plan on running without fans in the stadiums.
 
Just came here to say that March Madness has been cancelled in a year of Dayton's best team in decades, ranked 3, 1-seed, final four contender.

No wonder the students rioted, I'm about to go join them.
 
17 infected in Estonia

16 in Slovakia.

- All airports closed
- All international railway services withdrawn
- All international bus services withdrawn
- All sport events cancelled; the Slovak Extraliga has been cancelled with no-one declared the winner
(That one includes my gaelic team; no training until further notice and our March tournament has been cancelled)
- Only those with citizenship can enter the country

Bratislava specifically:

- All schools closed
- All pubs and restaurants closed
- Supermarkets and chemists only shops open at weekends

Sixteen cases, none fatal so far, and the country has basically zipped up its map outline.

I am stuck in my flat with nowhere to go and nothing to do. I'm unemployed so I don't even have work to do.
 
I think it's inevitable before we all get the same thing as Italy, mass shutdown of everything, I went shopping at Costco yesterday just to get a few long life stuff as I think it could be within a week we get this and well everyone else had the same idea(but mostly toilet paper):
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Now debate in NL: Why are we not closing schools as in kindergarten, primary school and further education like all other countries. Italy already warned us not to underestimate this situation.
As a fellow Dutchie: Regardless of what the government says or does, I will evaluate over the weekend whether I'm sending my kids to school next week. I'll simply report them sick. It's also advised to keep your kids at home if the have a cold or flu-like symptoms, so no problems there. As long as enough people do this we should be fine. If they close schools they should also compensate or delay mortgage/rent like in Italy, so families that need two jobs to keep afloat (plenty of those around these times) won't go bankrupt because one has to stay home. And that's not even considering single parents. I am fortunate enough to be able to work remote so for me it's no biggie, but that's not the case for everyone.

Sixteen cases, none fatal so far, and the country has basically zipped up its map outline.
Which means they're on time. Keep in mind that as long as the medical system is not swamped, fatality rate will stay very low. Once the medical system is swamped (see: Italy, Iran, China) those numbers go up very rapidly (need to triage patients as you can't help everyone that needs IC. No treatment if you need IC=you die in most cases). In China they were too late so after lockdown numbers still increased exponentially afterwards, until it slowed down after a couple of weeks. Same for Italy (though Italy hasn't reached the peak yet I think). You really want to stay ahead of that curve, so take measures before the hospitals are full, not at that moment. That's the main reason people are pissed off in NL: people know we're on the same curve as the countries mentioned so people are literally telling the government: shut down now, it will happen anyway in a week or so when things explode.
 
Which means they're on time. Keep in mind that as long as the medical system is not swamped, fatality rate will stay very low. Once the medical system is swamped (see: Italy, Iran, China) those numbers go up very rapidly (need to triage patients as you can't help everyone that needs IC. No treatment if you need IC=you die in most cases). In China they were too late so after lockdown numbers still increased exponentially afterwards, until it slowed down after a couple of weeks. Same for Italy (though Italy hasn't reached the peak yet I think). You really want to stay ahead of that curve, so take measures before the hospitals are full, not at that moment.

...and all they had to do was shut down the entire country. Obviously worth it right? I agree, if you shut down the entire country, the healthcare system doesn't get overwhelmed. Of course eventually everyone dies anyway.
 
University System of Georgia (the state) just suspended school for two weeks and will continue via online modules.

Would like to see how the FAA is going to approve that for me, needing to work on actual planes and components for my program. Let alone the rest of the flight students.
 

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I saw a bunch of people today going to BUDNIKOWSKY only to buy toilet paper. And there was a large EDEKA supermarket across the street so I don't know if it was just a coincidence or if TP had sold out.

On my way home I grabbed an 8 roll pack from ALDI just because mine was running low and they had tones of TP still.
 
...and all they had to do was shut down the entire country. Obviously worth it right?
Country will shut down anyway and mortality rate will be way up if the spread is not stopped on time. When you say 'worth' do you mean economical or something else?

'Shut down' is also relative: people in countries with a lockdown can still go out and get food/water/work, etc. (Though I'm not 100% sure that's the case I quoted)
 

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