COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

[Biggles]

"Social distancing" in effect in Boca yesterday.

(The name of the boat says it all. )

I am thinking it may be too late for controlling the spread of the virus throughout the US. As everywhere else, people have not reacted responsibly enough to be able to realistically contain the spread of the virus.

Gov. Cuomo has just given a press conference in which he has spoken about the possibility of pivoting towards a "risk containment" stratgy rather than compete shutdown. I am starting to think this is inevitable as the cure may turn out to be worse than the disease. It does mean that a lot of vulnerable people are going to die.

 

[Joey D]

That's great. How feasible is this for the rest of the country though? And for residential as well?

There are billionaire real estate tycoons in most reasonably large cities so they could probably do the same thing without ever seeing a dent in their accounts. As for residential areas? The banks would probably have to step in at that point and either forgive mortgage payments for a month or two or figure out a way to delay them. However, if the banks did this they'd probably want a bailout from the government because they're incapable of operating correctly.

 

[TJ13]

I have to imagine fuel stations are considered essential. However, I could see them shutting down the mini-marts attached to them and just making everything pay by credit card at the pump. Also, do you want massive panic? Because this is how you get massive panic.

I would think so but it was known to happen and now that my Gov. is now in 14 day quarantine as he was in close proximity of someone who tested positive making this shut down more likely now.

With Wisconsin being a shelter in place starting tomorrow some if not a good chunk of employees near the "cities" live in Wisconsin will almost follow suit.
Better to do it now than wait 2 more weeks and have to do it longer.

 

[DesertPenguin]

There are billionaire real estate tycoons in most reasonably large cities so they could probably do the same thing without ever seeing a dent in their accounts. As for residential areas? The banks would probably have to step in at that point and either forgive mortgage payments for a month or two or figure out a way to delay them. However, if the banks did this they'd probably want a bailout from the government because they're incapable of operating correctly.

Yea....

 

[EngieDiesel]

There are billionaire real estate tycoons in most reasonably large cities so they could probably do the same thing without ever seeing a dent in their accounts. As for residential areas? The banks would probably have to step in at that point and either forgive mortgage payments for a month or two or figure out a way to delay them. However, if the banks did this they'd probably want a bailout from the government because they're incapable of operating correctly.

I would imagine most real estate companies would have the foresight to see that having a large number of their tenants default and close up will hurt their bottom line in the long term far more than allowing them to skip a payment or two to remain solvent. No one wants a repeat of 2008, where there were lots of retail and housing developments sitting empty because either no one had money or didn't want to spend it if they did.

 

[TJ13]

Latest numbers for Minnesota went from 169 yesterday to 235 today.
66 more.
Still only 1 death.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Latest numbers for Minnesota went from 169 yesterday to 235 today.
66 more.
Still only 1 death.

So far

 

[Moglet]

So what happens if you go out exactly? Are cops gonna pull over every driver they see and ask them where they're going?

My wife currently lives in Spain (in Tenerife, so not the mainland) and over there they're mainly stopping pedestrians, she got stopped as she came out of a shop and had to prove she was buying essentials by showing her receipt. Her company are also having to get official papers signed just to go back and pick up things from the office. The minimum fine if you're caught out on the streets without needing to be is €600

 

[DesertPenguin]

Hopefully here in NY they have their 🤬 together and enforce this. Some people are just being really stupid about this. Thankfully I have no reason to go out for anything.

 

[Moglet]

For anyone curious how Tenerife are handling lockdown:

 

[TheGeologist]

Indiana becomes the latest state to issue a stay at home order.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Meanwhile I'm at work and probably changing to a night shift so they can cut the number of people on-site in half during the week. That is until Arizona goes on lockdown. IF it goes on lockdown.

 

[Keef]

"Social distancing" in effect in Boca yesterday.

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(The name of the boat says it all. )

I am thinking it may be too late for controlling the spread of the virus throughout the US. As everywhere else, people have not reacted responsibly enough to be able to realistically contain the spread of the virus.

Gov. Cuomo has just given a press conference in which he has spoken about the possibility of pivoting towards a "risk containment" stratgy rather than compete shutdown. I am starting to think this is inevitable as the cure may turn out to be worse than the disease. It does mean that a lot of vulnerable people are going to die.

Oi at least they're out there doing cool things, like sex and alcohol. All I've got is alcohol.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Meanwhile I'm at work and probably changing to a night shift so they can cut the number of people on-site in half during the week. That is until Arizona goes on lockdown. IF it goes on lockdown.

Hopefully they decide in the next few hours so you can join our race tonight 👍

 

[Dennisch]

 

[Biggles]

Oi at least they're out there doing cool things, like sex and alcohol. All I've got is alcohol.

Use your imagination Keefe ... & the internet's still working.

 

[ryzno]

So what happens if you go out exactly? Are cops gonna pull over every driver they see and ask them where they're going?

From personal experience, no. I went out on an adventure today for beer, something else and TP for my bungholyo. Police seem to be doing the norm. I will say Wal-Mart was not worried about the 50 people in a business mantra. Beer store was fine, same at the gas station. I don't think people care about 'social distancing' though.
Seems rather business as usual where I am except for those of us not working...

 

[TJ13]

IOC has postponed the Olympics to 2021.
Exact details are to be worked out in the next month.

 

[ImaRobot]

From personal experience, no. I went out on an adventure today for beer, something else and TP for my bungholyo. Police seem to be doing the norm. I will say Wal-Mart was not worried about the 50 people in a business mantra. Beer store was fine, same at the gas station. I don't think people care about 'social distancing' though.
Seems rather business as usual where I am except for those of us not working...

California has been locked down for a week and it really doesn't seem much different than what it was before, however, I haven't traveled around for over a week.. There is no police intervention here, as I believe it was stated that there wouldn't be. I'm sure if people stay stupid there'll eventually be some sort of enforcement.

Me not having a car, I have no choice but to go on mini adventures to get food, especially since most of the delivery services are about 1 week+, and that's not even taking into consideration that a lot of the stuff on my list likely wont even be available anyways.

 

[Dennisch]

Italy reports that for the second day in a row the number of deaths have gone down. 👍

793 on Saturday, 651 on Sunday and 601 today.
New cases have gone down too.
6647>5560>4789.

That's something to be mildly positive about.

 

[Leo Thorne]

Governor of VA just announced the closure of schools in VA for the rest of the academic year.....

 

[Barra333]

Italy reports that for the second day in a row the number of deaths have gone down. 👍

793 on Saturday, 651 on Sunday and 601 today.
New cases have gone down too.
6647>5560>4789.

That's something to be mildly positive about.

That is more believable that China having no new cases.

 

[Dennisch]

That is more believable that China having no new cases.

The Chinese probably want to restart their economy, so that's why there are "no" new cases.

 

[McLaren]

So what happens if you go out exactly? Are cops gonna pull over every driver they see and ask them where they're going?

Naw. They're going to be looking for gatherings, responding to calls, and normal highway duties. You can move around your metroplex, just make sure it's for something necessary. I imagine if a cop sees you frequently, then they'll stop you.

 

[Slapped]

This is going to be a kind of selfish post, or at least it may seem to start that way

I'm a week into lockdown for health reasons in Switzerland and it's driving me nuts. I'm abiding by it of course, and at the start the idea of a month off work was naturally attractive, but by god it's doing my head in, and only just after a week. All I want to do is get back to work at this point.

Sure I've got all the toys, but the toys are there for downtime. When everyday is downtime that wears off pretty quickly (I'm going to hate being retired).

Sure there's a bit of work that I'm doing such as courses for work, but I can only do so many and honestly they only take around 15 minutes to complete in any case. Other than that there's very little I can do workwise from home as I'm very in a hands on job.

To keep myself active I'm going daily for a 30 - 60 minute walk when very few people are around, early mornings mostly so I can keep my distance from other people easily. If I don't do this then due to my asthma I feel my lungs clogging up - basically I need this fresh air and exercise to get my lungs going.

Honestly I can only describe this situation as weird and surreal.

Plus points seem to be that any panic buying here ended just after it started, so the stores are well stocked and nobody here is going short of essentials. And also the people for the most part are sticking by the advice the government has given out - Keeping 2 metres apart and limiting non essential travel.

There's also a good display of solidarity. The young guys in the shared flat above us left a note to say that they'd do shopping and such for those in the building who are at risk, which I though was really cool.

Slowly I think we're going to get through it.

 

[andrea]

No gatherings even under a 100 people until 1 June in The Netherlands. Groups 3 or more people who don't keep the 1.5 meter distance will get fines from at least 400 euros per person.

 

[JKgo]

...The South African president just went on air and declared a "national lockdown" starting from this week Thursday. All businesses will be required to shut down with the exception of: essential services providers such as food, distribution, health and sanitation, as well as some in banking sectors. The rest will be "asked" to stay at home.

The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) has already been seen deployed throughout Johannesburg. Not sure about other major cities.

 

[FPV MIC]

Meanwhile in Australia,

 

[Dennisch]

Of course, the only way to keep that convict colony calm is with alcohol.

 

[Biggles]

Italy reports that for the second day in a row the number of deaths have gone down. 👍

793 on Saturday, 651 on Sunday and 601 today.
New cases have gone down too.
6647>5560>4789.

That's something to be mildly positive about.

Italy is what I have been watching for the last 3 weeks. Up to now the mortality rate has been around 43 - 45%, which seems very shocking, but that means confirmed deaths vs confirmed recoveries. In other words, there have been few confirmed recoveries so far because it takes 2 - 3 weeks for them to be confirmed, while the people dying are (presumably) dying within a few days. Over the next week I would hope to see new cases go down, deaths start to go down & the recovery rate start to shoot up. If not ... we're all in big trouble.

"We expect to see the first effects of the stringent lockdown measures adopted on March 11 after 2-3 weeks, so the coming week will be absolutely crucial in this sense: we expect to finally see a sign of trend reversal," said Franco Locatelli, President of the Health Council