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Cheers buddy, realised they ha to be set to online... Did that earlier :) much appreciated

Also, slightly off topic... I realised a short while ago that there was a 20mil credit limit... WTH!? Grr

That is why ya let BoB's accrue vast quantities of creds :D
 
The group is becoming enormous indeed!

To help keep track of numbers and to ensure important race info & other announcements are not lost in the thread I have created an email address.

Can everyone who does not object to doing so send me an email with PSN ID to the following address:

gtpc.r.a.p@gmail.com

No email addresses or names will be disclosed and all emails, with more than one recipient, will be sent as 'bcc' so no addresses will be disclosed.

Cheers guys :)
 
Heathenpride
That is why ya let BoB's accrue vast quantities of creds :D

Apologies for double post.

The group is becoming enormous indeed!

To help keep track of numbers and to ensure important race info & other announcements are not lost in the thread I have created an email address.

Can everyone who does not object to doing so send me an email with PSN ID to the following address:

gtpc.r.a.p@gmail.com

No email addresses or names will be disclosed and all emails, with more than one recipient, will be sent as 'bcc' so no addresses will be disclosed.

Cheers guys :)
 
Running 2 of your BoB's at Cape Ring now Rob. Can't ever seem to run into any races with anybody in the Casual Lobby...so Remote Bobbin will have to do for now. Wifey will be happy...she gets to make me watch TV.
 
lastly, as i had mentioned this before and will remind again, do not teleport back to pit by using the exit button or leave the track for further tuning during qualifying as the system will erase said driver's qualifying laptime. if a change of fresh tires is needed during qualifying, drive your way back to the pit in order to preserve your laptime.

Hi. I am a newbie to online so can you please just clarify on the above? The implication is that you cannot perform any further tuning without losing your recorded time - even if you drive back to the pits first. Is that accurate?

Thanks
 
Hi. I am a newbie to online so can you please just clarify on the above? The implication is that you cannot perform any further tuning without losing your recorded time - even if you drive back to the pits first. Is that accurate?

Thanks

yes, you're right.

if further tuning is needed in the midst of qualifying, u will lose your recorded laptime and have to start again from scratch.
 
This is what I expected to happen.

1) Not a lot of people that drive at a certain moment (otherwise not really CRAP).
2) But a big group of people that are interested.

Since I have too many friends, I do not want to become friend with more people (considering an alternative account).

I found posting a room number of a public lobby for that a good idea. Maybe some others that feel this way would work are willing to try this out, others might stay on the private lobbies and create the needed friends.
 
GTVirtuoso
Running 2 of your BoB's at Cape Ring now Rob. Can't ever seem to run into any races with anybody in the Casual Lobby...so Remote Bobbin will have to do for now. Wifey will be happy...she gets to make me watch TV.

Thanks :D much appreciated 👍
 
G'day,

Keen to join, psn Id is genghi. I'm on Perth time regularly but around full time work and rapidly approaching family commitments.

I'll keep an eye on club thread I suppose?
 
lastly, as i had mentioned this before and will remind again, do not teleport back to pit by using the exit button or leave the track for further tuning during qualifying as the system will erase said driver's qualifying laptime. if a change of fresh tires is needed during qualifying, drive your way back to the pit in order to preserve your laptime.

yes, you're right.

if further tuning is needed in the midst of qualifying, u will lose your recorded laptime and have to start again from scratch.

This is not correct, but it's a popular belief. If you leave the track/pits your name will be removed from the on-track leaderboard you see on the right-hand side of the screen. If you re-enter the track it will put your name at the bottom of that leaderboard but that only indicates your position on track. Your best lap time is still recorded in the live-timing monitor and you will be started according to that time.

We are in our 3rd season of the Capp Cup and we qualify in 2 groups, the first group goes out for 8-10 minutes and when they are finished they return to the lounge to watch the second group qualify. After both groups are finished everyone returns to the track and we start the race. I take pictures of the live timing monitor for each session and read off the top 5 to the group. In 3 seasons it has never made a mistake and we have over 30 members who can attest to it's accuracy.

Not saying you should change your method, just saying the reasoning behind it is not valid. We have done very extensive testing of this so I know this system inside and out. Anybody can easily test this, just have somebody go out on track and set a time. Have somebody else watch them on the live timing monitor, it will show their last lap time and their best lap time. Have that person leave the track and their name will disappear from the timing monitor. Have them re-enter the track and they will reappear in the monitor and while the last lap time has been removed it will still show their fastest lap time, even though they left the track. 👍
 
StigsHero
This is not correct, but it's a popular belief. If you leave the track/pits your name will be removed from the on-track leaderboard you see on the right-hand side of the screen. If you re-enter the track it will put your name at the bottom of that leaderboard but that only indicates your position on track. Your best lap time is still recorded in the live-timing monitor and you will be started according to that time.

In 3 seasons it has never made a mistake and we have over 30 members who can attest to it's accuracy.

strange.... i do not have numbers of members to back me up here but it had happened to me and other players in the same race before. definitely did not read and pluck this info off somewhere.

nonetheless, it will be proven on this coming enduro.
 
bouncyflabs
any room for me? from wales.

Is your PSN the same as your gt planet id?

I'll add you... My daughter is watching Aladdin on my ps3 just now lol so may get a race later on if you're up for it ;)
 
strange.... i do not have numbers of members to back me up here but it had happened to me and other players in the same race before. definitely did not read and pluck this info off somewhere.

nonetheless, it will be proven on this coming enduro.


I know, it's a very popular belief and I understand why. The game does a poor job of relaying player ranking info. There are some keys to making it work, and it can get screwed up.

Here's the exact procedure I/we do. I send the first group to the pits and tell them to wait until I release them. Once they are all in I signal that the track is green and release them to the track. When the time is up I instruct them to go back to the lounge. I then have group 2 go to the pits and repeat this procedure. After both groups are finished I then have everyone go to the pits and stay there until the race countdown finishes.

I think that last part is the key to making it work right. Once everybody has set a time I don't let them back on track until the race starts. If they trip a timing line after qualifying then they will be re-classified, but they would have to complete the whole warm-up lap plus the first sector of the next lap before they would be re-classified.

Give it a try, we have over 45 races under our belt with this system and it's worked great every time. 👍
 
I'd like to join.

GTP_akmuq. When is the next enduro taking place?

Enduro on Sun morn 8am Australian Central Daylight Saving Time. PM me for entry so I can organise. Please read OP bro, it has the PSN ID's that you need to friend request in order to access the lounges.

Reason we are doing the lounge system (epic thanks to GTP guru PAPPACLART for the system) is because instead of the 10 people I thought would reply there is about 60 in the first month so it has to be done this way :)
 
This is not correct, but it's a popular belief. If you leave the track/pits your name will be removed from the on-track leaderboard you see on the right-hand side of the screen. If you re-enter the track it will put your name at the bottom of that leaderboard but that only indicates your position on track. Your best lap time is still recorded in the live-timing monitor and you will be started according to that time.

Without a doubt, I can confirm this is true. Many qualifying sessions in the Capp Cup and in online lobbies and the game remembers your Q time if you leave the track for the pits or the garage, just doesn't display it as such. However with GT5 anything is possible, so don't be surprised if it works 1000 times and then doesn't work once when you race...lol.

I think one of the things that confuses people is the sequence of events. Everyone rushes out to qualify in online racing so you have usually several cars on the same lap. If you are out of the pits 3rd out of ten, you finish your Q lap, and you set fastest lap, you are the fastest of the 3 that have finished their lap. You go into the pits, and while in the pits, the 7 guys behind you finish their laps and if 4 of them outqualify you, you don't know because lap times aren't posted, just the order. The fastest lap is posted, so you know if one person has beaten you, but not if anyone else has at the same time.

So you go back on track, notice your fast lap was beaten by a half second by Joefastguy and assume you're in second. What you don't realize is, 4 other guys might have beaten you by 1/10th, 2/10ths etc. Now you are actually in fifth place. So out for your second session after a little adjustment, and the top 4 guys in front of you all drop back into the pits for an adjustment, you run a good lap within a couple of tenths of the Q time so now it shows you second. But because of all the pit in and out stuff, you are not in second overall, but second place of all the cars on the track, because by going into the pits, the guys ahead of you have dropped back to the bottom of the list, in spite of their faster Q time.

Confusing I know, but this is how it works. Dumbest thing ever. How someone could design a racing game that doesn't display who is the fastest qualifier is almost beyond belief...but there you have it...lol. You don't have to stay on track, nor avoid making adjustments to the car, that's a big myth. The only advantage to staying on track is that the game will display the true order of qualifying, but at the cost of being able to return to the garage and make adjustments.
 
that is actually fairly interesting, and it really just shows us PD didn't have time to polish up all the details in their game. But just cause I'm a jerk sometimes.... hehe
Why worry about a qualifying time for an endurance race? its not like you wont have time to catch up to the leaders. Or in my case, even if I qualify in 1st, I'll finish last anyway :)
 
johnnypenso: now i understand... thanks for this info! i stand corrected.

Johnny has been part of the testing with this system and has run in the majority of those 45+ races so he knows it very well. It can be incredibly confusing and I really wished they did a better job of showing us this info. If they just showed everybody on the live timing monitor at all times (not just the drivers on track) then this would be much more straightforward, but we're not so lucky.

If you guys have any questions about how this works or want to know more about it feel free to ask me, I'm always happy to help.
 
Why worry about a qualifying time for an endurance race? its not like you wont have time to catch up to the leaders. Or in my case, even if I qualify in 1st, I'll finish last anyway :)

nah... i don't really care about my starting position on the grid. i believe most CRAP members aren't either.

it's just for the thrill and excitement you get when giving it your all trying to beat the best time achieved by either somebody else or yourself. :)
 
Why worry about a qualifying time for an endurance race? its not like you wont have time to catch up to the leaders. Or in my case, even if I qualify in 1st, I'll finish last anyway :)

Fair point JT.

I like the idea of qualifying because it sets the mood for a real race. Yes this IS a casual racing group but let's not kid ourselves here; We all love racing cars so we do like to have the best experience possible.

What I will do is this: If anyone wants a short qualifying then let me know and you can go first and have the 5 or so laps that we will all have, assuming a full race, then you can have a nap, or whatever, whilst remaining in pits.

Preferably everyone has downloaded the track and raced it and is familiar with it, if not FR me and DL it and do so, so they won't need to re-tune as it is preferred they stay on track.

If this is not the case, or further tuning is required, then feel free to return to lounge and re-tune and re-enter but if it is a full race then we cannot extend qual by constant re-tuning drivers who then need another few laps and this needs to be taken into consideration and not exploited.

Remember that we have drivers from all over the world, we do not restrict based on origin, and some (if not all) drivers have planned for the enduro and as such may not be able to spare the time to extend the event by an hour due to numerous guys needing extra qual time.

In short: DL the track, practice and tune before Sun morn (central aus time) and be prepared so you don't need to leave the pits but if it is necessary then so be it, let us try minimise that tho :)

PS: Anyone that has not PM'd me to confirm entry needs to do that within the next 24 hours & 13 minutes!
 
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I'm not trying to suggest anything change.. like I said, sometimes I say things to be a jerk... (the J in JT stands for Jerk :) ) I'm one of the most laid back and open minded people I know, anything goes, its all good with me.

nah... i don't really care about my starting position on the grid. i believe most CRAP members aren't either.

it's just for the thrill and excitement you get when giving it your all trying to beat the best time achieved by either somebody else or yourself. :)

Yeah, you're right, that does add to the excitement, and I too actually do enjoy trying to set the best qual time, I never have.... but I can dream...


I also totally agree with you Heathen, people should be prepared for the race, since its scheduled, its important to stick to that schedule. You said it exactly right, people planned for it, and people from all different time zones are taking part.

Very unfortunately I won't be able to take part in this enduro cause I'm having a few people over for a BBQ saturday (8am sunday ACT is 6PM saturday my time), but hopefully I can get in on the next one.
 
Hey all!

Just found this group and would be really interested in taking part! Just added the five usernames, i'm chris78cpr on psn.

What are the formalities for getting in on the action?

Chris
 
Very unfortunately I won't be able to take part in this enduro cause I'm having a few people over for a BBQ saturday (8am sunday ACT is 6PM saturday my time), but hopefully I can get in on the next one.

hahaha Jerk Tug? :lol:

if you can't make the first then we cab do another later in same day? I have advocated that all along but no one has asked yet, is anyone else interested?
 
chris78cpr
Hey all!

Just found this group and would be really interested in taking part! Just added the five usernames, i'm chris78cpr on psn.

What are the formalities for getting in on the action?

Chris

no formalities other than reading the Original Post & following the instructions bro :)

Welcome aboard :D
 
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