CREDIT GRIND - WTC 600 Tokyo Express - Glitches are Dead.

[Saargasm]

I based it off when I did the corvette glitch back then, I always remember him pitting at lap 4, lap8 or 9 then lap 11,12?, I swear this game is inconsistent but when the 1.21 update rained upon us that horrendous Tyre wear I started to pit in on his lap times because before I used to pit in with the gtr once on lap 6-7, which was always a lap after Gallo, then the pack pits in with Mikhail Hizal on lap 8 🤣🤣 and kokubun on lap 9 like you said

It’s all fun but I learned to avoid them thanks to their invisible choo choo train route

I feel bad for the British ai and that viper like 20 seconds behind everyone else 🫣

Yeah, if you watch replay with all the info on screen and view the different cars, those two (Jag & Viper) are at a paltry 80-90% throttle on the straights. After I think the top 8 or so cars (I was certainly not scientific and going off memory) the others throttle levels are gradually lower than 100% on the straights.

They also handicap the backmarkers with nonsensical driving lines. The newer ('16?) STI, for example, constantly is taking a center line through turns, coming to a crawl and giving you no easy passing option (and 20-tons because you can slam into them at 200MPH and it barely budges them off the line. earlier versions of this game, those care would go FLYING into the walls with a push).

Anyone have any idea why, when you're on the main straight already lapping the field, that during the (middle laps?) they'll occasionally "swerve" back and forth? Sometimes I can go to the right of left of a whole train of cars and none move off the center driving line. Other times multiple cars will try to "block" or "squeeze" you, blue-flag be damned (the yellow 8C comes to mind and Fraga's). But I've also learned that once they start to move right/left, they don't react to your subsequent move - that and thinking I can gun-it through the shrinking gap is generally losing bet lol and costs more time and frustration than lifting/braking and going around lol.

 

[MrSitar]

Yeah, if you watch replay with all the info on screen and view the different cars, those two (Jag & Viper) are at a paltry 80-90% throttle on the straights. After I think the top 8 or so cars (I was certainly not scientific and going off memory) the others throttle levels are gradually lower than 100% on the straights.

They also handicap the backmarkers with nonsensical driving lines. The newer ('16?) STI, for example, constantly is taking a center line through turns, coming to a crawl and giving you no easy passing option (and 20-tons because you can slam into them at 200MPH and it barely budges them off the line. earlier versions of this game, those care would go FLYING into the walls with a push).

Anyone have any idea why, when you're on the main straight already lapping the field, that during the (middle laps?) they'll occasionally "swerve" back and forth? Sometimes I can go to the right of left of a whole train of cars and none move off the center driving line. Other times multiple cars will try to "block" or "squeeze" you, blue-flag be damned (the yellow 8C comes to mind and Fraga's). But I've also learned that once they start to move right/left, they don't react to your subsequent move - that and thinking I can gun-it through the shrinking gap is generally losing bet lol and costs more time and frustration than lifting/braking and going around lol.

On the straight after the hairpin, pass them on the right, inside the tunnel pass them on the left, outside the tunnel stick to the right but be careful if they are pretending to pass each other, hahaha fun stuff studying them after seeing how glued they are to their racing lines.

Never fails, when you get a penalty stick close to the middle left lane and watch how you get hit by all the cars in the pack 🤣

This game is hilarious sometimes though

 

[Habla2k]

I like it the most, when i try to pass them inside a corner, and they are so stuck on the line, that they touch my back and make me twist.

Sometimes they make room with the blue flag, and sometimes they don't. Most times they do leave the line, when there is plenty of room and i try to pass them outside the line, hence they block me again. Today i had 3 cars richt next to each other and i had to leave the track to pass them, haha.

Gallo is pitting in lap 5or6 and again in lap 9or10 for me.

 

[Barareklam]

@Habla2k so how is it going for you now? If I remember correctly you wanted to win this race and now it looks like you are winning, so which car are you driving now and what times are you getting now, if you mind to share? thanks

 

[Habla2k]

Yes, i won a few times now, Tomahawk is easy around 21-22 mins. I could win with glitched Alpine 220 too. And two no-glicht wins, first very close with GTR 17 and Praianos tune, another with GR4 Huracan with some modifications. Didn't drive it since then, been doing other cups i missed so far (the chili pepper ones, for example).

Tokyo is only for credits now with Tomahawk.

Edit:
@Barareklam
I just did another Tokyio Run with a Praianos Audi R8 tune and could win with one stop for fuel. Fun fact, that Gallo and Siswallo both made an early second stop and could beat Kokubun, never seen him only 4th.

 

[Rotherbach K]

Sorry - but this looks like a weak defense.

Be an adult - everyone can miss a post or muss understand something. No big deal at all

anyone can shift into 7th for an entire race. don't be ridiculous.

 

[Pizzapants]

Sorry - but this looks like a weak defense.

Be an adult - everyone can miss a post or muss understand something. No big deal at all

I didn’t miss anything. Shifting into 7th at the beginning of the race and keeping it there is no harder than using auto. Anyone arguing otherwise is being pointlessly pedantic.

 

[Rotherbach K]

I didn’t miss anything. Shifting into 7th at the beginning of the race and keeping it there is no harder than using auto. Anyone arguing otherwise is being pointlessly pedantic.

Of course ... You are the man ... You must be right ... Everyone else is always wrong - other opinions doesn't matter and others problems are not existing.

Sorry - your behavior is slightly childish ...

 

[Pizzapants]

Of course ... You are the man ... You must be right ... Everyone else is always wrong - other opinions doesn't matter and others problems are not existing.

Sorry - your behavior is slightly childish ...

You’re welcome.

 

[MrSitar]

Can PD change this game without a server update? I feel like this track is slicker than ever, one mess up and I’m hitting the barrier at a 90 degree angle with like a 45 second penalty from the aftermath 😳😳😳😳. Even when I hit the ai now they actually spin out of control, before they would just go into a straight lining into the wall 🤣.

I must have witnessed my first yellow flag after two months on non stop grinding and it wasn’t even me but the gtr and the nsx literally both hit each other and spun out at the hairpin 😳😳
It was a stupid accident but I never laughed so hard on my life that my kids were like WTF daddy 🤣🤣

 

[mynameis66]

Can PD change this game without a server update? I feel like this track is slicker than ever, one mess up and I’m hitting the barrier at a 90 degree angle with like a 45 second penalty from the aftermath 😳😳😳😳. Even when I hit the ai now they actually spin out of control, before they would just go into a straight lining into the wall 🤣.

I must have witnessed my first yellow flag after two months on non stop grinding and it wasn’t even me but the gtr and the nsx literally both hit each other and spun out at the hairpin 😳😳
It was a stupid accident but I never laughed so hard on my life that my kids were like WTF daddy 🤣🤣

How do you get a 45sec penalty,i assume thats accumulating 5 sec penaltys?I agree its easier to cop a penalty since the update,especially if your chasing fast laps,the ai seem to like to punt me from behind in the last hairpin if im on the racing line.I tend to do a tight turn but it compromises my exit,i know some of them are on SS tyres but the way they exit the hairpin sometimes seems unreal.

 

[MrSitar]

How do you get a 45sec penalty,i assume thats accumulating 5 sec penaltys?I agree its easier to cop a penalty since the update,especially if your chasing fast laps,the ai seem to like to punt me from behind in the last hairpin if im on the racing line.I tend to do a tight turn but it compromises my exit,i know some of them are on SS tyres but the way they exit the hairpin sometimes seems unreal.

picture my car spinning like a pinball in the narrowest section of the track LOL , i was near the pit by the lap marker using the DRS business as usual, but usually when i feel the car jerk i normally try to regain control and when i lose control i mostly just crash straight into the barrier and get like 5-10 seconds tops per lap most of the time, but in the past few days i have seen the car legit do a 90 degree turn and crash parallel into the barrier, i was going like 300mph and pure madness ensued, i spun out and flew for A few seconds that it was non stop penalties, the game glitched to the point my camera view was behind the wall LOL

I just i would had saved the replay but it was epic i think, i’m just having fun until they patch this again soon, I’m just overthinking things since it’s all i do while grinding this track all day.

 

[Baka_Marimo]

There is a glitched setup for the Red Bull X2014 that lets you run it with Racing tyres (starting out on Intermediates and then switching to Hards). According to the video it's much more controllable than the Tomahawk, while also being faster than the Alpine A220. Haven't tried it yet myself.

 

[fastone371]

There is a glitched setup for the Red Bull X2014 that lets you run it with Racing tyres (starting out on Intermediates and then switching to Hards). According to the video it's much more controllable than the Tomahawk, while also being faster than the Alpine A220. Haven't tried it yet myself.

It hate the way those cars with an inch of rear toe out drive, I will stick with the Tomohawk I think.

 

[mynameis66]

It hate the way those cars with an inch of rear toe out drive, I will stick with the Tomohawk I think.

I gave this a go when it first appeared,put up with zig zagging on the straight for 2 laps and quit. Tomohawk for me instead.

 

[NDFong]

anyone having wifi problems? every 3-4 laps with the tomahawk glitch I get a wifi network offline mode for a few seconds. and can any post there stock tomahawk tune? I forgot to duplicate my sheet. thanks!

 

[Max_HP]

anyone having wifi problems? every 3-4 laps with the tomahawk glitch I get a wifi network offline mode for a few seconds. and can any post there stock tomahawk tune? I forgot to duplicate my sheet. thanks!

If you have issues with your internet(especially wifi), then it's most probably on your side, not the game.
Gaming with wifi is not recommended as the signals are not consistent due to many factors, like physical obstructions(walls/doors/furniture) to other electronic equipment like cordless phones, microwave ovens, bluetooth devices, surveillance cameras, wireless headsets, also operate at 2.4Ghz frequency that can interfere with the signal. If your router is not set up properly for wifi, that can also add to the issues. If other users in your home are also sharing your internet bandwidth, that's gonna impact on your gaming too, especially if they're streaming a movie or watching porn. Old/frayed wiring or loose connections can affect the signal as well. If 2 or more wireless networks are in close proximity to each other, they can interfere with each other using the same operating frequency. When it comes to gaming, direct connection with ethernet cable is the best, but if that's not possible, then you have to look at what I stated above and do a process of elimination to rule out all those possibilities. And if none of them are the issue, then get yourself a wifi range extender to boost the signal from the router closer to your console/pc.

 

[fastone371]

If you have issues with your internet(especially wifi), then it's most probably on your side, not the game.
Gaming with wifi is not recommended as the signals are not consistent due to many factors, like physical obstructions(walls/doors/furniture) to other electronic equipment like cordless phones, microwave ovens, bluetooth devices, surveillance cameras, wireless headsets, also operate at 2.4Ghz frequency that can interfere with the signal. If your router is not set up properly for wifi, that can also add to the issues. If other users in your home are also sharing your internet bandwidth, that's gonna impact on your gaming too, especially if they're streaming a movie or watching porn. Old/frayed wiring or loose connections can affect the signal as well. If 2 or more wireless networks are in close proximity to each other, they can interfere with each other using the same operating frequency. When it comes to gaming, direct connection with ethernet cable is the best, but if that's not possible, then you have to look at what I stated above and do a process of elimination to rule out all those possibilities. And if none of them are the issue, then get yourself a wifi range extender to boost the signal from the router closer to your console/pc.

My signal got substantially consistently stronger with I switched from WIFI to a cable. In my defense I always had an ethernet cable attached but I didn't know I had to go into settings and tell my PS4 to use cable instead of WIFI. I double checked that setting as soon as I brought my PS5 online.

 

[GT5 Level 41]

I tried the X2014 tune and strategy above. Works like a charm. Two tries, two cakewalk wins. I'm a bit slower using an auto trans, but it cuts the workload down a bunch. I've been avoiding this race because of all the complaints about it. Move over Sardegna, a new grind is in town.

 

[Max_HP]

My signal got substantially consistently stronger with I switched from WIFI to a cable. In my defense I always had an ethernet cable attached but I didn't know I had to go into settings and tell my PS4 to use cable instead of WIFI. I double checked that setting as soon as I brought my PS5 online.

Sometimes, it's the very simplest of things that can impact your online gaming so it makes sense to check all your internet and console/pc settings that they're properly set as it can save you a lot of headaches and frustration.
And yes, ethernet connected is THE BEST method for online gaming.

 

[johnson_57]

I've been busy in Tokyo since the weekend. Topping up my wallet for the third time 👀.
Just in case PD decides to kill the Tomahawk again on Thursday.
🏁🏁🏁

 

[Habla2k]

The fact alone, that the Red Bull costs 2 million more than the tomahawk is not worth the try for me.

Doing 4 races just to buy this one is not worth it, imo.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

The fact alone, that the Red Bull costs 2 million more than the tomahawk is not worth the try for me.

Doing 4 races just to buy this one is not worth it, imo.

Not just that... The Tomahawk, even if you drive it like a grandma, still manages to be massively faster than the Red Bull. You don't have to drive the car to the limit or even anywhere near it and still be far faster than anything else.

 

[engrmariano]

There is a glitched setup for the Red Bull X2014 that lets you run it with Racing tyres (starting out on Intermediates and then switching to Hards). According to the video it's much more controllable than the Tomahawk, while also being faster than the Alpine A220. Haven't tried it yet myself.

i prefer this over tomahawk, more enjoyable to drive and similar in timing.

 

[Pizzapants]

More enjoyable is subjective, but it’s not really that similar in timing. I can regularly do under 18 minutes in the Tomahawk, meaning I can grind credits about 15% to 20% faster than the Red Bull.

 

[fastone371]

More enjoyable is subjective, but it’s not really that similar in timing. I can regularly do under 18 minutes in the Tomahawk, meaning I can grind credits about 15% to 20% faster than the Red Bull.

Do you use a wheel or controller to drive? I use a wheel, I was watching someone's replay that was posted here (possibly yours) and they are able to get on the gas hard before being completely out of the hairpin, I will spin everytime if I do that, even with ASM on, TCS 5, 7th gear, and fuel mode 6. The Tomohawk also slides alot on me at different places on the track if I'm not careful on the gas, I just can't believe that driving with a wheel is that different than a controller. I was also under the impression that the Tomohawk was AWD, if that is in fact the case why does it want to spin under hard acceleration from slow speeds even in the dry yet it pushes like crazy in damp corners like a 4wd car. I think PD kinda screwed us on the physics with this car. The car also dives real hard to the left towards the wall at the first left of the first set of S's even though the puddle is way up high against the wall and you miss it completely, almost like it's a real uneven track surface, if I can hit 230 mph or so by turn its almost nonexistant.

 

[Pizzapants]

Do you use a wheel or controller to drive? I use a wheel, I was watching someone's replay that was posted here (possibly yours) and they are able to get on the gas hard before being completely out of the hairpin, I will spin everytime if I do that, even with ASM on, TCS 5, 7th gear, and fuel mode 6. The Tomohawk also slides alot on me at different places on the track if I'm not careful on the gas, I just can't believe that driving with a wheel is that different than a controller. I was also under the impression that the Tomohawk was AWD, if that is in fact the case why does it want to spin under hard acceleration from slow speeds even in the dry yet it pushes like crazy in damp corners like a 4wd car. I think PD kinda screwed us on the physics with this car. The car also dives real hard to the left towards the wall at the first left of the first set of S's even though the puddle is way up high against the wall and you miss it completely, almost like it's a real uneven track surface, if I can hit 230 mph or so by turn its almost nonexistant.

i use a controller. Earlier in the thread, people were claiming the car is actually MORE stable with a wheel, not less, especially at high speeds. I can't comment since I don't know. But with a controller, the car will just randomly spin on you over 290 mph, so I keep it at like 285mph on the straight.

As for coming out of the hairpin -- yeah you pretty much need to be pointed perfectly straight before hitting the accelerator, or you will spin. You can't turn under throttle at low speeds in this car. (although you can at high speeds, due to the crazy downforce)

 

[johnson_57]

i use a controller. Earlier in the thread, people were claiming the car is actually MORE stable with a wheel, not less, especially at high speeds.

At home I use a wheel on my sim rig and at my office I use a controller. Funny thing for me with the Tamahawk............with the contoller I do constant low 19 minute races but with the wheel I suck and battle to get 20 minute times. Don't know why but I'm just able to control this car much better with the controller. Regarding the top speed, it doesn't matter if I'm using wheel or DS4, if I hit 290mph I'm screwed.

 

[Max_HP]

i prefer this over tomahawk, more enjoyable to drive and similar in timing.
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More than 3 minutes slower than the Tomo is not what you'd call "similar" lol.
Some speed demons on this forum have even managed 17 min runs, that's 4 minutes faster!

At home I use a wheel on my sim rig and at my office I use a controller. Funny thing for me with the Tamahawk............with the contoller I do constant low 19 minute races but with the wheel I suck and battle to get 20 minute times. Don't know why but I'm just able to control this car much better with the controller. Regarding the top speed, it doesn't matter if I'm using wheel or DS4, if I hit 290mph I'm screwed.

Controller is better with the snap turns for the Tomo imo. Only downside with the controller is less max speed on the straight and the car seems to lose traction and will spin out past 510km/h(316mph).

 

[perico]

My friend