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What is this "win" about which you all speak? :dunce: ... :sly:

...I do have one win, at Interlagos, but it was handed to me by the nine cars in front of me crashing or being punted and it was so long ago I've forgotten what it feels like ;)

YouTube allows your memory to enjoy the feeling over...& over....& over. Click link in my signature & scroll to wins 3-6, all happened in the same week. :eek:
 
Well it was all sunshine and lollipops as I built my alt account up a bit tonight. B race was quite clean, I got lucky.
People do have a lot of trouble with the uphill right hander t5?
That’s underrated dangerous, that. TCS default served me well. It was funny in one race I overtook the fella in second on the straight and had a biiiiig gap under braking into t5, he tried to use me as a brake, but my Autech was planted and barely blinked an eye when his left front hit my pass side door.
I could tell....His mind was blown. His car barely upset mine muhahaha. I love tcs as much as I hate people who try to dive.
One good thing about cockpit cam is you have such a solid viewpoint in situations like that.
He’s way back, I turn in on t5, at apex impact, slight power cut, and I’m hooked up and accelerating. Not only did he not get ahead, I didn’t lose too much time.
The idea I have read elsewhere here that says whoever is ahead at apex is imo poppycock. There’s a racing line. The turn in let’s say region is pretty specific within say half a car length. A driver who if he or she has the wrong idea about etiquette thinks they just have to nose ahead by apex has the WRONG idea.
If the lead car can’t even see you at the turn in point then backout!
Overlap must be established earlier than what a lot of say c s b s even a s even sometimes a plus s drivers seem to think.
That overlap also has to be sufficient.
Further I’ve no idea why people love to fight t1 lap 1 at Seaside and try to go side by side. They are dumb. That’s perfect for me in third I get a run and pass as you people bonk around and end up winning lol.
One thing that’s lost on a lot of folks and the announcers at the live events even alluded to it is the idea of not fighting during certain times.
A lot of times if I make the mistake lap 1 I will make it VERY easy for the fella behind to get by without slowing down and tuck in behind. It depends where on the track that it happens.
I’m really into the strategy of racing. I find on many corners, even if I am all over the guy ahead, I back out a bit at the brake zone and focus on an aggressive exit. So show on his bumper in radar then backout a touch, then if he gets nervy and sloppy on exit you can walk right up again and say hello or even walk away.
A common mistake I am seeing everywhere is the “I am gonna ride your bumper mentality.” Pressure is something to apply as much as possible, but not to the point it prevents you from passing, if you think about it what does it take to overtake (hehe)?
You only need to be a lot faster over one section or turn, well, if you are one inch back of the car ahead and bumper riding how are you gonna get a run?
Many times backing out 3-4 car lengths on entry yields a good run. Of course the better the drivers you face this is not so much so, errors are smaller the better the driver.
Sorry guys been playing five races just now, and don’t mean to talk down to many of the users of gt planet that are way faster at the game than me, this is more for the players below say top 5 percent...
I swear, it’s kinda funny after playing enough just how predictable and repetitive the mistakes are at certain levels of play.
You’ve got players lap one in heavy traffic tight field who will try to go two wide on a compromised line through exit onto the longest straight on a track or dive in and challenge which bunches the field Lol.
Don’t be that guy.
Somewhere if you want to look for it @Pigems showed some books he read, those have racing etiquette explained.
If you find the section that talks about shutting the door, and you see how that works, it neutralizes 96 percent of the “the inside line is mine no matter what” people common at mid level.
The response to racing along clean and having some jackass cheater trying to bump pass on inside is to have tcs on default, turn in on em hard and take a little orange arrow. They never expect it!
If their ploy is effective, I say PUNT at earliest opportunity, and if the pen comes accept what you have done.
Just never pick a fight you can’t win haha.

Hehehe, sometimes sr down is the correct thing to do. EDIT:be prepared to deal with the consequences if you misjudge things and should have conceded. Your mistake is your responsibility lol.

Carry on, and thank you for making it this far if you did.
 
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I’m in too haha
 
Change from TCS2 down to TCS1 has cost me 3000 DR and 30 SR so far.... enjoying the challenge!
However it would be nice if the penalty system matched actual causes and outcomes of the infractions a little more closely... for crying out loud, 5 seconds for losing 180km/h of speed against the left wall coming out of the death chicane :irked: :crazy: :confused: :eek: . I get that it's "wall riding" but really??
 
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🤬 Friday nights a few beers and hot lapping! So got a 1:28.338 on DT, the first sector of that lap is 30.322, the last sector is ok, not great. Three laps in a row, go 30.1, 30.1, 30.095 (I remember that one!) for the first sector, immediately screw it up on the left hander, then gain a tenth back on the last sector! :banghead:

Think there may be a 27 in there...

But I ain't finding it!!

That first sector is killing me. I knocked 0.1 off my lap last night which was worth 100 places on the leaderboard. If I could get that 30.1 I'd be straight down to the low 28. Just can't hook it up. The positive with these situations is that there are so many people tightly bunched that it's obviously possible.
 
Did some hot lapping last night.
Tokyo – 2:09.381 in the Megane. Quite pleased with that time. Not sure I’ll race though.
Tsukuba – 1:11.690

Thought I’d try a race C this morning.
Used second account with qually time at 1:11.950.

Started 10th.
Mixed grid at DR – A>Ds. All SR S.
Finished 8th – I gained from other people’s mistakes. Finished about 14 seconds behind leader. Blue SR.

My fastest lap 1:12.510. The fastest lap was in the high 1:11s.

Back to qualifying for Tsukuba with a low 1:11 the target. I think it’s the final corner where I’ll pick up the most time easily. During the race that is where I noticed other drivers gaining on me.

I tried the Mazda in the Roaster offline races. The car is much better with the BoP off.
 
I picked up three consecutive podium finishes at Seaside on my alt (P2, P2, P3). My ratings are recovering, I'm at 16644/46 now. The alt is going to see more action next week, especially at Interlagos. I was considering doing that one in the McLaren on my main, but I think that car finally proved its worth already in the last Manufacturers race :) The alt received the Grande Macchina as a daily workout gift the other day, which will be useful because the Ferrari tends to be good in such races.
Well, looks like I'm going to have to git gud at Interlagos.

Maybe we'll get R4M_Pogno out again. Show him around a bit. Maybe get him some cool/useful daily workout cars.

Stop laughing at that last one!
Have you done circuit experience? That's a fast way to get tons of prize cars. :)
 
Went for a race C after a taking over a second off my quali time from the other day, somehow ended up 2nd on the grid, but it didn't exactly go to plan. It was fun close racing with some good clean drivers for the first few laps, but with only about 8 quali laps and 1 race earlier in the week, I wasn't as consistent as I'd hoped, and started falling back which was ok, until I got divebombed by one particular driver, who pushed me off on the exit of T1, and got himself a 2s penalty. This put me back in front of him, but not by much, and he promptly barge passed me again the following lap. Suspecting he was dirty, I stayed on his tail for about 4 laps, backing out of a couple of moves where I thought he'd just push me off, but got a run on him on the back straight, and stayed to the right, slowly passing him all the way down the straight. Then just before the corner he backed off, moved across, and slammed into the back of me as I lifted off into the corner, spinning me out. I'm not often sure if a mine is deliberate, but that definitely was. Had fun for the last couple of laps passing some guys at the back, but ended up 14th. The guy even apologised after the race, I nearly had a go at him, but just not worth it.

Checked out his kudos afterwards, as you'd expect...

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Went for a race C after a taking over a second off my quali time from the other day, somehow ended up 2nd on the grid, but it didn't exactly go to plan. It was fun close racing with some good clean drivers for the first few laps, but with only about 8 quali laps and 1 race earlier in the week, I wasn't as consistent as I'd hoped, and started falling back which was ok, until I got divebombed by one particular driver, who pushed me off on the exit of T1, and got himself a 2s penalty. This put me back in front of him, but not by much, and he promptly barge passed me again the following lap. Suspecting he was dirty, I stayed on his tail for about 4 laps, backing out of a couple of moves where I thought he'd just push me off, but got a run on him on the back straight, and stayed to the right, slowly passing him all the way down the straight. Then just before the corner he backed off, moved across, and slammed into the back of me as I lifted off into the corner, spinning me out. I'm not often sure if a mine is deliberate, but that definitely was. Had fun for the last couple of laps passing some guys at the back, but ended up 14th. The guy even apologised after the race, I nearly had a go at him, but just not worth it.

Checked out his kudos afterwards, as you'd expect...

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Edit: since it's a thing now, may I join the gang too?
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That first sector is killing me. I knocked 0.1 off my lap last night which was worth 100 places on the leaderboard. If I could get that 30.1 I'd be straight down to the low 28. Just can't hook it up. The positive with these situations is that there are so many people tightly bunched that it's obviously possible.
Yeah if I nail that sector and just matched the rest of my lap it would shift me up nearly 200 positions on EMEA boards - and probably an average of 2-3 grid spots for the race which is the difference between fighting to stay in the top six or fighting for podiums

As an aside, does anyone know why car record optimum time doesn't always update? I know if you get a penalty on a lap it'll wipe it, but had it plenty of times where I've got my optimal down to a certain figure (1:44.8 for DT manu the other night) in a session then the car record shows it as slower (1:45.0)
 
Yeah if I nail that sector and just matched the rest of my lap it would shift me up nearly 200 positions on EMEA boards - and probably an average of 2-3 grid spots for the race which is the difference between fighting to stay in the top six or fighting for podiums

As an aside, does anyone know why car record optimum time doesn't always update? I know if you get a penalty on a lap it'll wipe it, but had it plenty of times where I've got my optimal down to a certain figure (1:44.8 for DT manu the other night) in a session then the car record shows it as slower (1:45.0)

There's a number of issues with the timing. The opt. sometimes doesn't update. The car record gets mixed up with the session record. Sometimes it doesn't display a sector time at all.
 
But what about tyre wear?
I've never raced the huracan and I'd like to keep that way, but I'd also like to know if the huracan is good on its tyres...

Well, Hard tyres with x11 multiplier. Tyres should likely be fine for the full duration of the race no matter which car you use. Not sure how the Huracan is for tyre wear, I rarely use it.

Haven’t raced Autopolis with fuel and tires, but I thought that place was Megane/4C territory in the Gr.4 category. Or is that just when wear isn’t and issue?

If the race was at Autopolis, yes, but it's Interlagos. :P The Huracan is usually the preferred choice here because it's fast in a straight line so from Subida up to turn 1 and along Retão, it's ideal.

The 4C will probably be the main choice for the Nations race I think, I could be wrong though.

I was thinking about doing this race since it's where my favourite Gr.4 (4C) is quite strong. Leaderboards seem to be full of Megane Trophies so I'm going to guess it will be close to a One-Make of those with a sprinkling of 4Cs and 86s.

The Gr4 Lexus does pretty well around Brands, I’d bet you’ll like it, especially on Soft tires.

Tyre choice is Ms/Hs, no Softs available.
 
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sweet mary and moses... i'm 40th on the American leaderboard for Tokyo this week. I've been using the TT and Megane on an off and then decided to try the Peugeot in qualy... well, bugger me.. first lap and i shave off nearly half a second to get a 2:08.774... just a tenth behind that Lester kid :crazy:

The flipside of that is of course i've been absolutely gang bummed on my SR, dropping to 45 or some shizzle - you can't have everything i suppose :grumpy:
 
EVO POWER. GET ME TO BRAZIL.

Probaby. If only to not drive the Lambo.

Megane, maybe, depending on the Front's tyre deg. Bearing in mind you cant change the BB on the FWD cars (yes it'll look like you can in the HUD on the track, but as it's disabled in the pre-race car setup, it doesn't actually do anything).
 
EVO POWER. GET ME TO BRAZIL.

Probaby. If only to not drive the Lambo.

Megane, maybe, depending on the Front's tyre deg. Bearing in mind you cant change the BB on the FWD cars (yes it'll look like you can in the HUD on the track, but as it's disabled in the pre-race car setup, it doesn't actually do anything).
I think it does, the car behaves very different. As the MX5 in this week's race A.
 
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Same for me. I got a 1:28.0 from somewhere but usually only get 1:28.2 to .4 laps, the car just does not stop sometimes. I'm losing half of the time to the leaderboard times in the first sector alone and it's full of flat out parts. :lol:

The race is even worse, so little grip, lucky to even get into the 1:28s, even when 5 seconds behind other cars. I've only raced twice as I knew it'd be like this, this is the worst track in the game to feel this lower grip feeling, almost bound to crash. :banghead:

I even tried changing the camera, using bumper cam instead of hood helps in the middle of the lap but as I'm not use to it I lose time elsewhere, I'm just lost basically. :dopey:

I was thinking about this again earlier.

Another instance where leaderboard times get really congested is when the speed penalty for running driving aids is reduced. Booted the game up just now, put TCS up to 2 and immediately ran a 1:28.8 (and it wasn't a great lap). That has two effects on things: Firstly, qually gets really tight for those who don't have the ultimate ability to consistently outperform the driver aids. Secondly, creating a meaningful lap time difference in the race is really not easy - hence so many fastest lap columns being filled with 1:29s. Thirdly, compounded by dirty air, an overtake becomes very difficult to create.

At the start of the week the time differences were much bigger. Now gaining positions is just about benefitting from crashes and penalties. Looking at my results, gaining meaningful DR means a finish of at least 6th is required. That's a big ask with all of these factors combined.

And that's not to mention the fact that the 16th grid slot has you at the apex on the last corner almost on the red line in first gear when the light goes green. Typically the gap to 1st is 7 seconds when I cross the start line.

I'll try and do more lapping on DT but as a race from the back of the grid, it's dead for me.

Edit. I'm going to say that quite a lot of those 1:28.5-1.28.7 laptimes are being run with TCS 2 etc.
 
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Decided to race on my main account at Tsukuba.

Qually: 1:11.620
Started: 7th

Mix of DR S>Cs. Think that might be the first DR S I’ve raced with. When I say raced, I mean on the track at the same time!

Finished 9th. 11 seconds behind the winner. I finished, as did most, with Blue SR.

Lost the two places with firm but fair moves. They had a run at me into the corner. I left space, we touched. I expected it. Rubbing is racing with these cars on this track. I'd rather that than I block and they tip me into a spin.

They were battling ahead of my on the last lap, I was within a second behind to pick up the pieces if they made errors, but they both kept it together.

My fastest lap: 1:12.447
Fastest lap: 1:11.699

Only gained 100 DR.

My qually time is within top 1000 in EMEA and I think I've more or less hit my limit with my current abilities with this combo.
 
hmmm.. i'm wondering the same. Why would they disable it pre-race and then let you change it once you get in the car? As if we've not got enough stuff to moan about already and then they go and throw this conundrum in the mix ffs :crazy:

Its just requires too much customisation of the HUD on a car by car basis.

Its a blanket addition for everyone, of the fuel mix options as soon as you run with fuel being a factor. But to remove/add the BB module for every car that does or doesn't have a changeable BB is actually quite a lot a of programming overhead.

The BB module is there on every race right? Even when you are racing with classic old road cars that clearly do not have a customisable BB... And so it doesn't actually do anything... Just the same as if you tried to change the LSD or transmission options where they really aren't applicable!

As PD enjoys its attention to detail, my observations are that if you can't change it in RL, you can't change it in the game.
 
Changing the BB in race for Race A definitely works, I’ve been running BB+3 for all my hot laps/races. You just can’t change it pre race because you don’t own the cars, same reason you can’t use your own liveries in race A. Every car in the game also has adjustable TCS, something that they all defiantly don’t have in real life either. :)
 
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I'm impressed you still have a wing mirror after that!

If the race was at Autopolis, yes, but it's Interlagos. :P The Huracan is usually the preferred choice here because it's fast in a straight line so from Subida up to turn 1 and along Retão, it's ideal.

Damnit! I always confuse those two tracks. Oh well, I really enjoy Interlagos too. Hopefully it doesn't just turn into a one-make race like mentioned though.
 
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I'm impressed you still have a wing mirror after that!



Damnit! I always confuse those two tracks. Oh well, I really enjoy Interlagos too. Hopefully it doesn't just turn into a one-make race like mentioned though.

The Huracan is lovely for Interlagos, but we might see some tire savers as a surprise.

The 4WD Huracan has a bit too much tire wear.
 
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