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Sven Jurgens
Guess I'm done for tonight, can't race like this.
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So glad I made a second account. Driving like that requires a return fire on an account that I could care less about the DR & SR. That reminds me, I need to suit up & go.

Invisigoth
Was I imagining it, or was that a a brake check after he got his penalty?
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I saw it clear as day. I guess he figured he wasn't going to win, so he'd share his sour grapes.
 
Did a bunch of Race C today, love Interlagos. Started on my burner account and did a few no qually races until i forgot to pit on practice lap. Tried the Megane Trophy, 650S, Aston Martin before finding my soul mate car for this race Jaguar. Felt like I was dialed in with it and switched over to primary account did a few Q laps to get 1.38.8 for decent starting spot & knocked my recently fading DR back up to A+
 
NoStopN
It may not be the same thing, but typically when I get that feeling, I usually chalk it up to the game simulating understeer.

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Usually I would do that too but that would be the car sliding out in an arch with tire squeal. This was just straight out driving off.
 
Well, I busted out a new look and went in to grovel about from the back with my newly created doppelgänger account.
Good fun, I have only done a few races overall thus far, so to begin I was sitting c s.
Grid was all cs and then a couple d s and me behind it all.
It was exactly what I remembered about c s when I was in my first career. Slower but clean racing. There were pens, but ticks tack track limits mostly. Nice clean fun race. Guys looking out about others...
So all c s rooms do exist with start to last qual within 2.7 seconds...At least they did today...

Cheers
 
So I did something normally I never dared do: Did a GR.3 Daily Race..with an Audi R8 LMS:

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Went way better then I expected, previously all I would do is drive incredibly slow afraid to spin out in a lobby race only to spin out anyway.
 
wow.. I did about 5 laps of qualy in the Megane last night and got down to 1:38.56 - happy with that and because i got battered on SR last week i was put in a fairly week lobby with me being 1.2 seconds ahead in pole. OK, so the Megane's tyres won't be great, but let's just take it easy and look after them and i should be fine.
So the lighting pace off the mark Megane saw me leave the crowds behind and over the first 4 laps i gained about an 8 second lead - laps were 1:40 - 1:42 but i could see and feel the degradation slowly creeping in...hmmm.. ok, just take it easy you'll be fine. Laps 7 - 10 and P2 was gaining, my lap times were now 1:44's and crossing to start lap 11 i was 1.2 seconds ahead and dead in the water. It was the '86 i let take the inside line at T4 and then he left me for dust finishing 2 seconds ahead. I didn't see any car pit at all throughout the race and the 86 looked solid on lap 11.
My tyres we probably over 70% done on the fronts :crazy: in hindsight, i probably had time to pit halfway and keep up the 1:42 laps to see me home. Something to try out tonight i guess, but at least it saw a clean race and 14SR gained.. up to SR/A for now 👍
 
Dammit. Tried 3 race A just now. First 2 I was the meat in a 3 wide sandwich in turns 1 and 2, which means when the inside person loses it I get the penalty for the outside person getting hit off. And their rage post race. 3rd race I was okay there, got to the chicane bit heading out back when someone didn't brake, sent me off to the green fields for a tramp, and I get a 1 sec penalty for track limits. All 3 races had laps at my qualifying time, but all useless when you finish last or next to last thanks to 1 bastard at the start. The lack of SR also means 1 tiny bump and you are red after the race.

Going to have to do race C
Sadly it is.cleaner
 
As usual not much race time here. Got a chance to jump into just 1 race C before sleep. Figured I'd been saying the Jag would be good since races were posted and they were on the leader boards so went straight to that and did a 6 or 7 pre-race laps. Got a 1.40.476 and rather than getting into the 1.30's and missing the chance to race I decided to enter. Pretty clean affair for me. I took it careful racing about 1 sec behind my Q time to keep tyres good and the car on the track. Tyres on the Jag were fine at the end. Surprised with it being RWD and me setting BB to 3 to the rear that the wear was more on the front but that could be my braking style and the heavy front end. It lost about 1 sec per lap by lap 9, 10, 11. Starting 16th on the grid if a car from the top half of the grid went off I let them back through rather than wasting time and tyres in a fated battle. A TT in 17th at the start was allowed past at T1 too because he was all over the place and I figured it was only a matter of time before he took someone out - it happened by T3. So, a pretty nice but boring affair, no drama with offs, tyres or fuel, one orange SR down for a nudge from behind lost my CRB. Finished 11th. Up 13 SR to 97 and down 30 DR which was a fair reflection of the race. A little mundane but very calculated I suppose.

I did have a very squeaky bum moment on the 2nd last corner as the 86 in front of me just totally lost it. He went off to the right and back across the track but did not ghost as I was accelerating out of the corner. No idea how I did not hit him.
 
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Just got back from an absolutely wonderful race at Interlagos. Went from P6 to P3 without a single orange arrow, though unfortunately still not a clean race due to a 0.5sec penalty I picked up after going too wide on T4 of the last lap.

Shortly after the beginning of the race I entered a very fun, nearly 5-lap-long zero-contact battle between me and some dude named "mikian77" - I was within 0.3-0.8 seconds of him the whole time before overtaking him on Lap 6 after he braked too early going into T4.
The second half of the race was rather uneventful because the guy in third disappeared as I got closer to him on Lap 8 I think it was, and noone else was within three seconds of me in either direction.

I know this isn't terribly impressive for anyone who regularly races in SR-A/S but I've never managed to get my SR above B so I don't typically get to experience this kind of thing. Right now it's at 60 - the highest it's ever been, so here's hoping this marks the end of an era and I will finally be able to race properly in this game. :lol:
 
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Leftcurl
wow.. I did about 5 laps of qualy in the Megane last night and got down to 1:38.56 - happy with that and because i got battered on SR last week i was put in a fairly week lobby with me being 1.2 seconds ahead in pole. OK, so the Megane's tyres won't be great, but let's just take it easy and look after them and i should be fine.
So the lighting pace off the mark Megane saw me leave the crowds behind and over the first 4 laps i gained about an 8 second lead - laps were 1:40 - 1:42 but i could see and feel the degradation slowly creeping in...hmmm.. ok, just take it easy you'll be fine. Laps 7 - 10 and P2 was gaining, my lap times were now 1:44's and crossing to start lap 11 i was 1.2 seconds ahead and dead in the water. It was the '86 i let take the inside line at T4 and then he left me for dust finishing 2 seconds ahead. I didn't see any car pit at all throughout the race and the 86 looked solid on lap 11.
My tyres we probably over 70% done on the fronts :crazy: in hindsight, i probably had time to pit halfway and keep up the 1:42 laps to see me home. Something to try out tonight i guess, but at least it saw a clean race and 14SR gained.. up to SR/A for now 👍
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I thought of Megane but figured it needs 2 things in my opinion:

A - a pit stop.
B - a pole position.

If you could start on pole and use the speed to make a big enough gap to pit and come out in the lead, or to not pit and have enough time the bag to lose 2 to 3 secs a lap in the 2nd half of the race then that may work. However it's not so much faster than the Jag to make up enough time to pit in and out still keeping in front and the wear on the Jag only loses it a second or so per lap at the end. Also, if you get stuck in traffic and don't avail of that speed it's a total loser. (IMHO)

@Leftcurl: Edit made after you clicked "like":

Also, as I discussed with @Pigems last week this Race C is exactly why we should start on the grid at whatever Q time we achieve with the car we are actually racing in. It is far too easy to set a good Q time in the Megane when tyre wear does not matter and then race something like the Jag for the race.
 
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Alt account. This is crazy. B/S room. I started last no qualy. A Slophy and another 86, we all gave room for the first 3 laps. As we caught cars in the pack, all heck breaks loose. Diverse group of cars, but it's like the higher up the grid I went, the more defensive players got. Looking in the mirrors so much and being too late on the brakes. Never mind setting fast qualy times, when race craft should be the main focus.

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Ignore my post about race C being cleaner. Wildly unmatched field, A/A through D/S and ugly. No equally guy using his chrome horn to push through, got 1 penalty for running wide to miss a spin, then another as a guy lost it on the outside of me heading for that first 90 degree right. Left me mixing it up for most of the race with 2 guys beating the crap out of each other in between me passing them and then them passing me with lots of bumper taps and side taps. More SR down and I just lost too much time and tires. Last 2 laps had a megane and an 86 blast by in the infield as I couldn't defend. Although the 86 was defended against, just pushed me off the apex anyway. Ugly night. Good lap times and all, some really good racing bits but overall a crap outing with too many uglies. Time to try again for a fresh start tomorrow

Edit: been trying practice laps with other cars. 4c is doing decent but I end up sliding the hell out of that thing somehow. Been using the jag but I need to find something else other than the lambro to manage tires better as I keep stupidly getting aggressive on my tires in close spots.
 
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05XR8
Alt account. This is crazy. B/S room. I started last no qualy. A Slophy and another 86, we all gave room for the first 3 laps. As we caught cars in the pack, all heck breaks loose. Diverse group of cars, but it's like the higher up the grid I went, the more defensive players got. Looking in the mirrors so much and being too late on the brakes. Never mind setting fast qualy times, when race craft should be the main focus.

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Redneckchef
Ignore my post about race C being cleaner. Wildly unmatched field, A/A through D/S and ugly. No equally guy using his chrome horn to push through, got 1 penalty for running wide to miss a spin, then another as a guy lost it on the outside of me heading for that first 90 degree right. Left me mixing it up for most of the race with 2 guys beating the crap out of each other in between me passing them and then them passing me with lots of bumper taps and side taps. More SR down and I just lost too much time and tires. Last 2 laps had a megane and an 86 blast by in the infield as I couldn't defend. Although the 86 was defended against, just pushed me off the apex anyway. Ugly night. Good lap times and all, some really good racing bits but overall a crap outing with too many uglies. Time to try again for a fresh start tomorrow
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These two posts worked very well coming one after the other for something that was on my mind. The other night I was in a race where a no qualifier came from the rear and I let him pass. He was ultra agressive, bumping and pushing, and I just could not be bothered with defending that sort of crap. He went off and caught me again. I let him though. He went off again. Last night a DR S driver no qualified behind me. I let him by and he made just 2 more places up before being caught in a field of traffic. I could see his frustration in front of me as I watched a stupid battle between a fast no qualifier and a driver who thought he had the right to defend his place. @05XR8's point is that he no qualified, got into a race with slower drivers and was then frustrated by finding himself behind slower drivers. Not all drivers are like me, watching the ranking and quali times of those in the lobby and figuring who they will let pass. Most see their position as their position to defend and if you chose to start at the rear then it's your job to find a clean way by, not theirs to give it to you. AS @Redneckchef says, no qually drivers pushing through aggressively are just as much a problem as slower drivers over defending.

Simple solution - stop no qualification entries from being allowed. Granted, next thing the same drivers will do ultra slow Q times and we'll have races to see who can go round the track the slowest in qualifying but it would be a move in the right direction.
 
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I haven't been racing online that long. Kudosprime says 22 days. But over the races on Mount Panorama and St. Croix a few weeks back, I steadily gained DR and went from a D rating to a B rating. Great.

Then last week came. None of the races did me any good and I thought this week might be different.

Nope. Neither Suzuka nor Interlagos did anything for my DR and I am down almost 6k points since that high 2 weeks ago.

I tried the Audi R8 and the GT-R in Suzuka - and its just constantly sliding around, the Audi more so than the GT-R (which I had great success with in St. Croix).

Also - do you take 130R in Suzuka at full speed? Maybe I am just too timid going through there or I am not taking the right line, but I always get the feeling, if I don't brake, I will run wide or lose the car.
 
PulpDogg
I haven't been racing online that long. Kudosprime says 22 days. But over the races on Mount Panorama and St. Croix a few weeks back, I steadily gained DR and went from a D rating to a B rating. Great.

Then last week came. None of the races did me any good and I thought this week might be different.

Nope. Neither Suzuka nor Interlagos did anything for my DR and I am down almost 6k points since that high 2 weeks ago.

I tried the Audi R8 and the GT-R in Suzuka - and its just constantly sliding around, the Audi more so than the GT-R (which I had great success with in St. Croix).

Also - do you take 130R in Suzuka at full speed? Maybe I am just too timid going through there or I am not taking the right line, but I always get the feeling, if I don't brake, I will run wide or lose the car.
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If sliding around in a Gr3 is your issue use the Beetle or Lancer.

And welcome to the Planet.
 
6BK
Simple solution - stop no qualification entries from being allowed. Granted, next thing the same drivers will do ultra slow Q times and we'll have races to see who can go round the track the slowest in qualifying but it would be a move in the right direction.
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Erm.. I believe @Sven Jurgens already has the record for the slowest qualy :P. I too believe that faster drivers who *choose* to start from the back don't automatically have the right to higher positions. Just like the people who start higher up and come off the track, that's not *my* problem. I'm not going to just pull aside for them. If they are fast enough to get past me then the onus is on *them* to make a clean pass. I've driven with some of the back starters like Sven, and been cleanly passed by him... numerous times :crazy:. It can be done 👍.
 
6BK
These two posts worked very well coming one after the other for something that was on my mind. The other night I was in a race where a no qualifier came from the rear and I let him pass. He was ultra agressive, bumping and pushing, and I just could not be bothered with defending that sort of crap. He went off and caught me again. I let him though. He went off again. Last night a DR S driver no qualified behind me. I let him by and he made just 2 more places up before being caught in a field of traffic. I could see his frustration in front of me as I watched a stupid battle between a fast no qualifier and a driver who thought he had the right to defend his place. @05XR8's point is that he no qualified, got into a race with slower drivers and was then frustrated by finding himself behind slower drivers. Not all drivers are like me, watching the ranking and quali times of those in the lobby and figuring who they will let pass. Most see their position as their position to defend and if you chose to start at the rear then it's your job to find a clean way by, not theirs to give it to you. AS @Redneckchef says, no qually drivers pushing through aggressively are just as much a problem as slower drivers over defending.

Simple solution - stop no qualification entries from being allowed. Granted, next thing the same drivers will do ultra slow Q times and we'll have races to see who can go round the track the slowest in qualifying but it would be a move in the right direction.
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No, It's not frustration. It's race craft. By starting at E and working one's way up...Hey, even just racing and being mindful. A player can stay at E/B for the full duration of how ever long they are playing. It's the race craft. I qualified in my regular account. I've battled with courteous players. I've not battled with faster players. I give room, etc. If a player has moved up from D to B, they should at least have some knowledge of not doing things that make you look bad.

Here's another example. When I race, I do not expect to blaze through the field. Players here know I am not a fast player or alien, but I race hard and fair. My objective is to finish one place higher than I started. Most times, I want to finish in the top 10. If a rare win is obtainable, I don't try to win at all costs. I play to watch my replays. That's it. Simple.

This race, I'll share it. I was in a zone. It wasn't easy. Many players set faster times than I did in my normal account.
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05XR8
No, It's not frustration. It's race craft. By starting at E and working one's way up...Hey, even just racing and being mindful. A player can stay at E/B for the full duration of how ever long they are playing. It's the race craft. I qualified in my regular account. I've battled with courteous players. I've not battled with faster players. I give room, etc. If a player has moved up from D to B, they should at least have some knowledge of not doing things that make you look bad.

Here's another example. When I race, I do not expect to blaze through the field. Players here know I am not a fast player or alien, but I race hard and fair. My objective is to finish one place higher than I started. Most times, I want to finish in the top 10. If a rare win is obtainable, I don't try to win at all costs. I play to watch my replays. That's it. Simple.

This race, I'll share it. I was in a zone. It wasn't easy. Many players set faster times than I did in my normal account.
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Nice score! There were a few 86's in the one race I managed. May give it a go...after I set up my alt account.*shhh*:sly:

I suppose the point is, no quali is fine so long as you are willing to race as you describe. Too many I see end up barging past as though they have divine privilege.

@Invisigoth I don't let faster cars pass without question however if it is obvious that they are so fast that it is only a matter of time that they will pass me and it's too far from the end to defend reasonably I'll let them by and try to draft them for as long as possible. Too often "over defending" leads to either a crash or so much time lost that the cars that were 1 or 2 seconds behind catch and you lose even more places.
 
6BK
Nice score! There were a few 86's in the one race I managed. May give it a go...after I set up my alt account.*shhh*:sly:

I suppose the point is, no quali is fine so long as you are willing to race as you describe. Too many I see end up barging past as though they have divine privilege.

@Invisigoth I don't let faster cars pass without question however if it is obvious that they are so fast that it is only a matter of time that they will pass me and it's too far from the end to defend reasonably I'll let them by and try to draft them for as long as possible. Too often "over defending" leads to either a crash or so much time lost that the cars that were 1 or 2 seconds behind catch and you lose even more places.
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Your last sentence is exactly what I'm getting at. That has a lot to do with how I'm moving up spots. I was able to catch up in clear air and by 1st & 2nd battling each other. The same also worked out for the winner, as me & the Lancer were battling.

I can't dictate what players do, but I try to leave an impression that I was a fair racer in other player's eyes.
 
6BK
I thought of Megane but figured it needs 2 things in my opinion:

A - a pit stop.
B - a pole position.

If you could start on pole and use the speed to make a big enough gap to pit and come out in the lead, or to not pit and have enough time the bag to lose 2 to 3 secs a lap in the 2nd half of the race then that may work. However it's not so much faster than the Jag to make up enough time to pit in and out still keeping in front and the wear on the Jag only loses it a second or so per lap at the end. Also, if you get stuck in traffic and don't avail of that speed it's a total loser. (IMHO)

@Leftcurl: Edit made after you clicked "like":

Also, as I discussed with @Pigems last week this Race C is exactly why we should start on the grid at whatever Q time we achieve with the car we are actually racing in. It is far too easy to set a good Q time in the Megane when tyre wear does not matter and then race something like the Jag for the race.
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ok, how do i 'unlike' it? :lol:

I agree.. i only jumped in the Megane because i like the car and feel i can get the most out of it.. but then in reality, it can't perform in the race. I'm still going to have another try and pit halfway just to see how it compares then. Like you say though, i'm going to get a few poles with my qualy time, so it's just a case of trying to hang onto that in a different car. Easy eh? :crazy:
 
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