"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Redneckchef]

Sweet, got a list of new cars to try at Interlagos. Was going to have a go in the 86 this morning but only remembered to get logged in with a minute to go. Not willing to learn a new car during the race while in a pack so stuck to the jag. Fantastic race. Had a full battle all race long with the minion in front in the limbo. Very clean. Couldn't ever get the perfect run to get by him but no brake checking, swerving or other ugliness, just good enough to clear me every time I managed to get alongside. Don't mind losing in that case while it is so clean. Now off to work for a deep clean and oven degreasing night. Ugh

 

[astrarobotica]

You better hope you don't get matched against DR/Ds and Cs, cause whenever nurb comes up half the grid is non qualifiers .

I don't understand how anyone hopes to do well at 24h if they can't be bothered to qualify (except for @Sven Jurgens of course). It's just not the circuit to wing it on.

That being said, I'm really looking forward to that chaos.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Oh Plz not again...Its getting worsen and worsen when peanlties had mod... Here have a look this video:


I got 2 sec penalty for what!

It's kind of self inflicted though.

You don't leave enough room and squeeze him onto the green where he spins out.

Leave room for self preservation! Squeeze too much, pay the price.


Yuck, it's dirty hour again. I survived the 7pm race with blue SR although was sure it would be red after all the SR Downs from people bumping me around. It's like brakes don't work anymore after 7pm! So far the 86 was fastest for me, fastest lap, late brake wonder, and best tire wear, just not good on the straight. Currently I'm trying the Veyron, awful on tires, has to brake early hence all the bumps from behind :/

 

[Invisigoth]

I don't understand how anyone hopes to do well at 24h if they can't be bothered to qualify (except for @Sven Jurgens of course). It's just not the circuit to wing it on.

The problem is that most people jump on to enter the race and they get on a few minutes after entries for that race open. They don't have enough time to complete a lap before race matching starts. I always do the time trial option external to race entry so I can get 2 or 3 laps continuous so I have a second bite at the cherry trying to adjust to the changes in handling between updates. Anyone who's spent a significant amount of time on the track already knows the track, so it's more adjusting to the changes every update seems to bring. (I destroyed a PS2 controller doing the 24h on GT4 ).

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I'm getting good at crashing :

 

[Pigems]

I'm getting good at crashing :

Wow, that was awesome man!

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Wow, that was awesome man!

Thanks, I've had lots of practice this week at spinning on that one corner! I was surprised when I got going again and the Audi was in front, his spin looked worse than mine.

 

[Granadier]

I'm getting good at crashing :

Jeff Gordon must’ve been so damn confused when you popped out right in front.
Nice save.

 

[The_Tullster]

Did a race A last night, +SR, +DR, +1 place. Good result as I'm not comfortable in N cars. Too hard to maintain the smooth steering and braking inputs necessary to keep the car balanced while using a DS4.
Did a C this morning, nice Sunday drive style race. DR down but SR up with a one stop in the RC-F. It's been a while since I raced there and I've lost the flow. Probably need to do about 30 - 40 laps to really get back to smooth there, then may do better but I'm not going to have time for the at before the weekly rotation finishes.
Mixed results at Suzuka, but I'm enjoying it. However I think the red plastic bollards at the entrance to Casio have been moved back or the track limit trigger has changed there. I've don't recall ever getting a track limits penalty there before with cleaning up those bollards, certainly not in recent memory but this week I've had about five while missing them with room to spare... I've finally got my turn in cues retuned and am beginning to consistently get through there without a penaly now

 

[Invisigoth]

I'm getting good at crashing :

It's nice to good at something . That's the spot I had to back off on precisely for that reason.. I know from previous experience of you have your wheels turned even the slightest amount and you hit the throttle you *will* spin. The astro turf on Suzuka is deadly . That corner you can cut by quite a large chunk without getting a penalty.. it's usually the safest option if you are carrying too much speed.

 

[NoStopN]

I'm getting good at crashing :

How do you get to the driver's point of view in replay mode? How many virgins must I sacrifice?

 

[The_Tullster]

How do you get to the driver's point of view in replay mode? How many virgins must I sacrifice?

Same way as in a race...at least on my system.
Edit: Please send the virgins in unmarked packaging so the wife doesn't know

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

It's nice to good at something . That's the spot I had to back off on precisely for that reason.. I know from previous experience of you have your wheels turned even the slightest amount and you hit the throttle you *will* spin. The astro turf on Suzuka is deadly . That corner you can cut by quite a large chunk without getting a penalty.. it's usually the safest option if you are carrying too much speed.

I watched the Suzuka 10h race a few weeks ago and cars were running over the green every lap at some corners. It looks like just painted concrete with as much grip as the actual track, either they've changed the circuit or PD put in the ice skating rink to punish track limit abusers.

How do you get to the driver's point of view in replay mode? How many virgins must I sacrifice?

Same way as in a race...at least on my system.
Edit: Please send the virgins in unmarked packaging so the wife doesn't know

What he said. Just change the camera when you have the replay on, it works when watching other peoples cars too.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Same way as in a race...at least on my system.
Edit: Please send the virgins in unmarked packaging so the wife doesn't know

Those virgins are probably a bunch of sweaty guys living in their mom's basement.....


Oh, on the subject of track limits:

 

[Invisigoth]

I watched the Suzuka 10h race a few weeks ago and cars were running over the green every lap at some corners. It looks like just painted concrete with as much grip as the actual track, either they've changed the circuit or PD put in the ice skating rink to punish track limit abusers.

 

[Ashthebash]

Done a race!

Race C, qualified 3rd I think, maybe 4th. Spent all race in 3rd I know that! Had a battle with the Lambo in 2nd but couldn't get past so thought I'd ease off for a couple of laps as he was looking like he'd started to struggle with tyres, instead was forced to back off as I made a mistake behind him out of Juncao and luckily only got a 0.5s track limit penalty, could easily have been a spin. Then ended up right on his tail again for the last two laps. Polesitter in the Megane Trophy just drove away after a couple of laps. Part us battling for 2nd, bigger part better tyres. Really liked seeing a diverse field though, I was the only Jag. Think if they'd thrown in the option for mediums this race could have been epic with different strategies, as it is, still pretty good how the different cars have their strengths and they can all be used

Hopefully get on later for a few more

 

[DanSHW]

Went for a race C in the Vantage, managed to fit in a couple of laps before it started, didn't get a great lap in, but enough to start 8th of 19. Clean and cautious first lap from everyone around me meant I stayed 8th. Got a run on 7th for T4 in lap 2, side by side into braking, textbook overtake, plus two of the cars ahead ran wide and picked up penalties, then they both ran wide at the final corner and I breezed past up the hill. Got a good run through the first corners, and passed a Citroen GT into T4 for 3rd. Unfortunately P1&2 were long gone at the front, and after a couple more laps, I had a Cayman all over the back of me. Apart from one bump under braking into T1, it was a pretty clean fight, he got past on lap 8 or 9, I got a run into T1 on the final lap, but outbraked myself, and he came back past, so 4th in the end.

Got a clean race star, staying at 99, and picked up about 900 DR, putting me within 500 of my highest previous. Really enjoyed racing in Gr.4 without the FF cars powering away and ruining the fun.

 

[NoStopN]

What he said. Just change the camera when you have the replay on, it works when watching other peoples cars too.

I never go into driver's seat view. I've forgotten which button to push to change views. I figured that there was a button on a keyboard I could push to change views, but I didn't find one.

 

[Pigems]

I never go into driver's seat view. I've forgotten which button to push to change views. I figured that there was a button on a keyboard I could push to change views, but I didn't find one.

On a DS4 it’s R1 to change views usually.

 

[05XR8]

Been a while since I ran a Mustang. I'll see what happens.

 

[ASH32]

As @GTP_TO Blue said the 86 is a good race car, even from the back. Lap times only drop about a second from the 2nd to the last lap and I could probably do better if I learn the car more. Still a little down on top speed but it'd be OP otherwise so understandable, Trophy may still have the edge in a straight up battle too.



Also if any of you decide to take revenge, don't be like the driver in this clip and get the wrong car.

 

[05XR8]

The Vantage was in 3rd, but dove into the pits at the finish.

 

[6BK]

Finally I got to race last night. Unfortunately I was crap. Daily C I've actually qualified where I'd expect, my usual Region Best + 2.5%. It's been putting me to the back of the grid though and that's about where I belong. I've either been bullied off the track or just not been able to race anywhere near my quali pace. It's getting a bit boring going around in laps on my own in 20th place so I've emigrated to Daily B.

Daily B fixed nothing. For the first time in ages I can't get quali there anywhere near what I'd expect. At 2.02.5** I'm nearly 4% off region best. That's not only putting me to the rear of the pack but I'm lapping about 2 seconds slower than the other cars on the track.

What I decided to do, as my DR plummeted 10K this week, was to enjoy just jumping onto Suzuka and picking cars I've never used, and I mean never. My Gr3 Corvette had less than 50KM on the clock. The Viper had zero. The drop in DR and the crap quali has actually been liberating. I'm arriving on the grid with nothing to lose and just enjoying the new sounds as I jump from car to car. Actually, the 16 Lexus RF which I have used before turned out to be sweet. You should try it.

Best fun was watching the whole field self destruct. I jumped into the Vette. It was stable, sounds great, but I was last on the grid and lapping about .3 or .5 secs slower the car ahead so I was just enjoying learning the car while on race time. Then the pack would hit a corner, pick a corner, any corner, and there'd be a car in the sand and me going up a place. Then another corner...and another. I continued to lap miles off the pace, never even got close to seeing another car let alone try to make an overtaking move. I went from 15 to 7 and got CRB. Suzuka is so slippy all you need to do is stay on the track and you can improve your place.

 

[Invisigoth]

I don't know how I'm gunno racing in the future without a cold suit. It's 11pm and still 25C outside...it's gunna be a hot summer methinks .

 

[The_Tullster]

Those virgins are probably a bunch of sweaty guys living in their mom's basement.....

All the more reason to hide them from my wife

I don't know how I'm gunno racing in the future without a cold suit. It's 11pm and still 25C outside...it's gunna be a hot summer methinks .

Not so hot here, I must be further south or higher up than you.... but give it four to six weeks and I'll be in the same boat.

 

[breeminator]

Considering that when Gr.4 Interlagos RH last came around in May this year, I only managed 1:39.9, which was just outside the EMEA top 10,000, I'm quite pleased with this:

That was in the Jag. When I first tried a few cars, the Jag was actually the slowest, I was faster in every other car I tried. But I realise now that it messes with your sense of speed. You're going so fast when you reach each corner that you have to slow down to what feels like a crawl. At first, I was arriving at the apex of every corner too fast, and it was understeering like crazy, but once you get used to judging the right speed for each corner, it really handles quite nicely.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Ooh, it's actually clean this morning at Interlagos I got the clean race bonus in the Citroen GT, nice car for this track, great on tire wear and on the straights just a bit slower around corners. Currently in the NSX which is also good on tire wear and plenty competitive. Unfortunately no CRB as I got back home 10 seconds too late. My car hit the wall after auto-drive, rest of the race all sectors SR up, yet that tap before the start already counts. With almost 15 seconds behind the pack starting 13th, I still made it to 5th thanks to the NSX. My times hardly dropped off at the end and were very consistent during the race, nice car. (86 still better though)

Odd, glitch. I have the crb in the bag, made it up to 7th and seemed to be following 6th for the last few laps, not fast enough to get close. Then my steering locks up after the sharp right, erm T7 I think. My car goes off the road not responding to me turning left and braking. I watch the replay and the steering dot stays on full lock while I'm certain I don't keep it their that long for that corner, but it does respond to me getting back on the throttle. Odd. Could be an thumb glitch as well, getting older.

 

[Dairyworker]

Goodwood has been nice for my first two races aswell this morning. Hard to keep the crb with lots of rubbing the first lap or two, but the racing has been generally clean here all week. It's gonna be another full morning of racing i hope, so i hope the quality holds up like yesterday did.

I tried a few laps in the mustang at interlagos since i do kinda like the track, but i was nowhere near able to control the car like i would need to to race there this week.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I've not raced at Suzuka but it looks like the BoP works well there. I've got 2:00.x times in five different cars.

Yup, I've tried many of the cars and they can all get under 2:01. I haven't tried the Merc's yet, but I'm confident they can get under 2:01 as well. The Hyundai is the toughest one that I've tried so far. It doesn't seem to have anything that is does well at Suzuka, but still a 2:00.9 fastest lap and 1 win.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

Decided to compare my times against tyre wear at Interlagos. I used the GT-R which is a feels good and satisfying to drive type of car for me (sorry, I can't say the same for its Gr.3 brother).

Started 20th/20 with no QT. Race wasn't too eventful although I met a dirty GT-R who didn't want anyone passing except for me. I guess because I was in a GT-R as well. I got a "one of us" message from him so I somehow ended up with a free pass without risk of being blocked or bumped off.

Also escaped from a 3s penalty Huracan that attempted a divebomb on me at T1. Some people seem to lose their minds when they have a penalty and aim to take innocent drivers down with them. I saw it coming (always, always weary of penalty cars) and immediately slowed down, made a sharp turn to my left. He missed and went off. Finished 11th.

Tyres at the end (average but the car still gripped well and felt responsive):

My times were pretty mediocre compared to the 4C. Tyre wear made an impact in times during the last few laps:

Rating: 6/10, okay but there are better options.