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Been using the Atenza and it's about the same I think. Really hard to say which is better as I'm not trying an FF, but I definitely have a speed advantage at the end although I think it might have slightly better acceleration. GTR will do it but need to save more and the Slophy is great on fuel if you can make it go faster than I can
- 5,670
- Ulricehamn
I shouldn't be one to give advice, I stopped Wednesday evening. The mix between people fuel saving and then people going full blast and acting desperate, pushing the fuel savers out at once has made me a bit tires of the races.
I am amazed that PD couldn't predict this.
They still choose daily races as if everyone was trying to not make them selves look bad.
The only thing happening is the races are ruined for those who drive fair.
I might be done with GTS for a while .. I don't feel any lure to race. The latest penalty system combined with this idiotic fuel multiplayer migh have succeeded in killing my love for the game.
After well over 1500 races I might be done
- 1,072
- Behind you
Firstly giving advice is always a good thig, even if it's wrong the person might be able to use the info to work something better out. Taking bad advice is the fault of the taker, you need to weigh everything up.
Yeah I had a couple of months off and it's not any better, a great game pulled down to OK because of a really bad penalty system. When it's too harsh I get annoyed, but at least you can race. When it's like this it's totally pot luck. N24 should be one of the cleanest races when you think where the PZ is, but it ends up being one of the dirtiest because the chances of getting a pen for shoving someone off are so slim you can ignore it.
Even FIA can be really dirty, it takes all the fun out of it.
- 31
- United Kingdom
I've really been enjoying Race C this week , racking up some decent results , well that was until last night after an evening on the Ale , my brain decided now was the time to take on the ring, bad mistake, forgot to brake twice for T1 and all kinds of mishaps , including running out of fuel put me 2nd to last Dont drive drunk kids!... anyway, in less alcohol fueled times I've been finish in top 5 even getting a 2nd place, which as I only finished 3 seconds behind P1 , without the (in my opinion) picking up an undeserved penalty I could've got P1.
There I am cruising along in 5th, minding my own business, come to the corner break earlyish due to slipstream and cars in front, about to ease into the corner , guy behind punts me into the guy in front and then barges his way past .. I get a 2 second penalty , for what I can only assume is the livery (maybe the guy behind was a Vegan) , where as mr/ms aggressive gets a 1 second penalty. Perhaps I deserved it, dunno, what do you reckon ?
There I am cruising along in 5th, minding my own business, come to the corner break earlyish due to slipstream and cars in front, about to ease into the corner , guy behind punts me into the guy in front and then barges his way past .. I get a 2 second penalty , for what I can only assume is the livery (maybe the guy behind was a Vegan) , where as mr/ms aggressive gets a 1 second penalty. Perhaps I deserved it, dunno, what do you reckon ?
- 563
- France
- ElGringoFuerte
at 1:40 we have a beautiful example of how the ghosting system should work across all driver rating levels , glaring punting attempt? go kiss the wall by yourself
Groundfish
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I need to lower my dr. I took a couple bs penalties last night, my alt was almost fifty k.
The system started penalizing me.
Seems like once you go much above 45k you become at fault for all stupidity.
I think I will do a couple slow drives on the Nord and donate a few thousand dr.
The system started penalizing me.
Seems like once you go much above 45k you become at fault for all stupidity.
I think I will do a couple slow drives on the Nord and donate a few thousand dr.
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- Bristol, UK
- OJBrit
You were unlucky. You got hit from behind into the guy in front. You got 2 seconds and they got 1. As the perpetrator was someone with Eifel in their name you'd have thought they would know how to drive the ring.
Met this guy this morning.
I don't know if he got hit into the hairpin but he decided to take it out on everyone. I stood firm which I guess they wouldn't have liked. I tried to give him a corner cut penalty at the NGK but the game said no for some reason. I completely messed up my take one for the team punt on the entrance to the Nord. (I may need some lessons from @Groundfish) But I got my chance at Hatzenbach. He was pushed wide. I'd have prefered to hit them closer to the corner but my extra gift of speed sent them to the barrier.
It's been o.k. here this week. I'm usually starting bottom half and the fuel saving gets me into the top 10 easily. You have to just let those who stopped past sensibly. But you do have people trying to push past which is annoying, going for moves into corners you don't make a move on. Yesterday I was shoved out at Metzgesfeld and this morning in the uphill left after the right after Pflanzgarten 1. Just wait 1 second and you'll be past. Thankfully the 2nd one got a penalty for shoving someone off in the last braking zone giving me his place.
- 153
- Dublin
- ii_Biggles_ii
I was in the same boat until I got to the point where I realised being Mr Nice Guy all the time doesn't work, I didn't get aggressive but I stopped letting others get away with moves they shouldn't have even tried at parts on a track where it's just not possible to pass. Luckily I found the last penalty system update made it easier to hold your ground and not get an unfair penalty, it does still happen the odd time so not completely fixed. Don't be afraid to close the door or jump someone who had made a mistake and you have a run on them, you can be sure they would do it to you. I see you driving the Gr.3 C4, used it the manufactures for 4 or 5 seasons and when you really get to know it, it's fun to drive and not as bad as some make it out to be, good on tyres and fuel in races where it counts, too bad the Gr.4 C4 is so bad.
Was about to pass 50k dr today but a pathetic idiot decided to smash people to the wall at banked turn at Race A, believing he could win taking out the higher talented drivers... I could not but @GOTMAXPOWER smashed him back at that race and got the well deserved win. Well done!
Following races i had to destroy him and i did!
Down to SR87-DR46k but proud and happy.
Following races i had to destroy him and i did!
Down to SR87-DR46k but proud and happy.
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Groundfish
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The viper is a fine choice but it seems to be more related to technique than car. There is a wide variety of vehicles being used with success in the race.
Other drivers are getting better mileage then me. And the car they are using? Same as me.
I watched a Huracan driver, unwisely, use 70% of his fuel on the first lap and not pit! He managed to get to the end with a 9:17 lap on 30% fuel liberally using 7th gear. Unwise but freaking amazing at the same time.
This is a true fuel saving race and it is hard. There is not one rule to follow but you need to blend multiple techniques as the situation arises:
- Get in the slip of another. This is huge. All of the other techniques require a sacrifice but this one is mostly free so long as you have picked someone who is fast enough.
- Short shift and use a higher gear.
- Lower the fuel map.
- Lift and coast into turns.
- Brake later and aggressively to minimize the braking zone. And yet, it is critical to keep high corner speeds and that is so hard when your approach speed is so much lower. You need to relearn and drive by "the seat of your pants".
- Map your fuel % in advance. That is, run a race and determine what the optimum fuel % is for a handful of key points. Then adjust your aggression based on that load. I don't support leaving extra to the end so you can race the last bit. It means sacrificing earlier opportunities.
- Don't sacrifice corner exits as you need to build up speed.
- Go hard to catch up to the next racer so you can get into that freebie slip. Spend now to save later.
- The straights are critical... I think you need to spend some of your fuel here but ease off as you near the end of the straight. I am undecided on Dottinger. Enter hard but at some point I think it is wise to ease up and sacrifice 20 kph of top speed. I don't know the right approach to this.
EDIT: I am not an expert. This is my first serious fuel saving race. Your mileage may vary
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Groundfish
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My strategy on c race.
Start tenth. RM tire. Take out/pass as many as possible lap 1 on GP.
Shove obvious fuel savers off. Push push full revs take no prisoners. Just don’t get any pens. Pit. 1.1 laps of fuel.
Takeout anyone ahead of you.
Get on the podium.
Start tenth. RM tire. Take out/pass as many as possible lap 1 on GP.
Shove obvious fuel savers off. Push push full revs take no prisoners. Just don’t get any pens. Pit. 1.1 laps of fuel.
Takeout anyone ahead of you.
Get on the podium.
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- Druids Bend
- Z4E_Midnight85
Managed to get in a race with @GOTMAXPOWER and @baygencos last night at SSRX. My mid-B ranking was evident as I somehow lost the slipstream by the top of the bridge and sat with one other car for the entirety of the lap watching the interval balloon to nearly 6s by the end. Q12, P11. Clean race, but DR down. Went back to the livery editor after that.... 
- 622
- Canada
- AFC-R6N
3 races in succession at the Ring this afternoon. No-stopping in the Scirocco.
Race 1 - 36.3K DR, 91SR, Q7, P11 --- dirty, dirty, dirty. Got caught up in other people wrecking each other, got wrecked and ended up with a loss of 200 DR and 18SR!! Down to 73 SR on an FIA day!!! @Mc_Yavel started ahead of me and appeared to have a good race.
Race 2 - 36.1K DR, 73SR, Q2, P1 --- very clean up front. The polesitter was a very dirty culprit from race 1 so the plan was to not try to pass and rebuild my SR. No need as 3rd and 4th barged through on lap 1, got mixed up with the dirty dude, and they all took each other out. Perfect. Bring it home AFC. Gained a few hundred DR and 13 SR up to 85!!
Race 3 - 36.5K DR, 85SR, Q1, P1 --- pretty straightforward, led the whole way. Up to 37K DR and most importantly 97SR.
Seemed to me, the A/S lobby was WAAYYYYY dirtier than the A/A or A/low S lobby.
Sport mode wins 66 and 67
Race 1 - 36.3K DR, 91SR, Q7, P11 --- dirty, dirty, dirty. Got caught up in other people wrecking each other, got wrecked and ended up with a loss of 200 DR and 18SR!! Down to 73 SR on an FIA day!!! @Mc_Yavel started ahead of me and appeared to have a good race.
Race 2 - 36.1K DR, 73SR, Q2, P1 --- very clean up front. The polesitter was a very dirty culprit from race 1 so the plan was to not try to pass and rebuild my SR. No need as 3rd and 4th barged through on lap 1, got mixed up with the dirty dude, and they all took each other out. Perfect. Bring it home AFC. Gained a few hundred DR and 13 SR up to 85!!
Race 3 - 36.5K DR, 85SR, Q1, P1 --- pretty straightforward, led the whole way. Up to 37K DR and most importantly 97SR.
Seemed to me, the A/S lobby was WAAYYYYY dirtier than the A/A or A/low S lobby.
Sport mode wins 66 and 67
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- 2,041
- Bristol, UK
- OJBrit
How'd that happen? It's a race where you sit in slipstream and just mash the throttle.Managed to get in a race with @GOTMAXPOWER and @baygencos last night at SSRX. My mid-B ranking was evident as I somehow lost the slipstream by the top of the bridge and sat with one other car for the entirety of the lap watching the interval balloon to nearly 6s by the end. Q12, P11. Clean race, but DR down. Went back to the livery editor after that....
- 51,502
- Australia
- SpacedustDaddy
To me, GTS is way past its Use By date. I've put it down so many time. Restarted the game so many times. Cursed it and hugged it so many times.
I come back to the game, when I get an itch for the GR.4 cars and certain tracks I like. Can't miss a race at Autopolis. I'll at least do one entry. First car I adored in GTS is the Atenza. Next, the Mustang. I have to drive them. Even when I get frustrated with the Atenza, I've got to steer it.
You read about me taking a break and booting up GTAV offline. I drive around and create mischief in that. Relieve a bit of Daily Race frustration on the different gangs in the game.
Plus, there are other racing games that have cars and tracks I love. Good to get away from GTS and regain some sanity. Stay up!
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- NoStopN
You read about me taking a break and booting up GTAV offline. I drive around and create mischief in that. Relieve a bit of Daily Race frustration on the different gangs in the game.
Plus, there are other racing games that have cars and tracks I love. Good to get away from GTS and regain some sanity. Stay up!
Wreckfest seems to be the favored alternative to GTS. Some hardcore players will substitute ACC. But after being victimized, you want to dish it out without being penalized.
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- GOTMAXPOWER
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If I wanted a top speed, high banked oval race, I'd watch NASCAR at Talladega. I need to turn right occasionally.
Bump draft was strong at the front i believe.
I hit 404kmh top speed leading the train at Race A. Two or there cars can hit 396kmh tops i guess.
I just made a couple non trainy Race A's and its whole another game.
Later i matched with one of the most disgusting creatures, well known for it's "talents", which i finish it's race if it ever comes close to me.
First race it was well behind so i kept the lead and won. Second race it came close so i left the lead and destroyed it. Was worth to sacrifice a podium finish!
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The viper is a fine choice but it seems to be more related to technique than car. There is a wide variety of vehicles being used with success in the race.
Other drivers are getting better mileage then me. And the car they are using? Same as me.
I watched a Huracan driver, unwisely, use 70% of his fuel on the first lap and not pit! He managed to get to the end with a 9:17 lap on 30% fuel liberally using 7th gear. Unwise but freaking amazing at the same time.
This is a true fuel saving race and it is hard. There is not one rule to follow but you need to blend multiple techniques as the situation arises:
Decide where you are going to spend your fuel:
- Get in the slip of another. This is huge. All of the other techniques require a sacrifice but this one is mostly free so long as you have picked someone who is fast enough.
- Short shift and use a higher gear.
- Lower the fuel map.
- Lift and coast into turns.
- Brake later and aggressively to minimize the braking zone. And yet, it is critical to keep high corner speeds and that is so hard when your approach speed is so much lower. You need to relearn and drive by "the seat of your pants".
- Map your fuel % in advance. That is, run a race and determine what the optimum fuel % is for a handful of key points. Then adjust your aggression based on that load. I don't support leaving extra to the end so you can race the last bit. It means sacrificing earlier opportunities.
- Don't sacrifice corner exits as you need to build up speed.
- Go hard to catch up to the next racer so you can get into that freebie slip. Spend now to save later.
- The straights are critical... I think you need to spend some of your fuel here but ease off as you near the end of the straight. I am undecided on Dottinger. Enter hard but at some point I think it is wise to ease up and sacrifice 20 kph of top speed. I don't know the right approach to this.
EDIT: I am not an expert. This is my first serious fuel saving race. Your mileage may vary
Thanks for the tips
So , just returned after a fuel saving race, best result so far and interesting as well, i can keep up on the medium fast combinations and i had to really shift aggressively to get the fuel saved. Lucky for me i was so scared of running out of fuel i had enough for the final looong straight to just let it rip.
But, racing in slow motion and not having anything to fight back with isn't really all that fun, so great results but not that enjoyable.
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- Druids Bend
- Z4E_Midnight85
That could explain it. We were just cruising at about 387-389, watching the gap increase. Not sure why the slipstream just opened up and the pack disappeared though, I guess just lack of slipstream strength as you start to fall back in the 0.75 zone...
A bunch of races at DTS last night, M6, Mustang, Jag and 650S. I really need to find consistency at COD, that's the biggest hurdle on this track. Managed a 6th from 11th in the M6, but was in 5th until the final COD when I clipped the inside barrier. A couple of 4ths in the Mustang and the 650S, starting Q9 and Q4. Found the Mustang to be really strong here, great on handling but also pretty quick and easy to get the power down. 650S handling is awesome, but just have to be careful with lift-off oversteer in the chicanes or esses.
EDIT: A couple of replays below, including a 4th from Q10 in the Jag below...
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- 153
- Dublin
- ii_Biggles_ii
Just running race A all week and notched up a few more wins leading all the way from the front, I got the curves nailed and when they start messing behind on the last corner they just never catch up. I helped a few guys to wins when the madness broke out in the final run and knew that to try pass for the win rather than bump-draft would have seen us swallowed up so I guessed 2nd was better that 6th or 7th. Was in a lobby 2 races later and the guy I helped win returned the favour riding shotgun on the last curve. The few I have helped thanked me after rather that just leaving so nice to race with decent opponents. I'm DR-B for the first time on my main account now and making progress up.
Not going to say I will miss this race as it does lose it's appeal at the end of the week, too bad next week not looking great but it has looked like that before until we started racing and turned out ok.
I would like to do the other races but I still can not hear the cars or tyres due to the ear infection I picked up.
Not going to say I will miss this race as it does lose it's appeal at the end of the week, too bad next week not looking great but it has looked like that before until we started racing and turned out ok.
I would like to do the other races but I still can not hear the cars or tyres due to the ear infection I picked up.
- 736
- United States
Been racing the Nord this weekend a bit. Using my alt (because I'm not a complete idiot) and racing from "the back" with no Q, which has started me as high as 8th. First, nobody told me it was a fuel savings race, which I hate, so I've been going BTTW. Most races start with me getting blasted in T1 and dropping back, then playing catch up. Starting on hards, pitting for mediums and fuel, been finishing top 5 mostly, with one (no Q) win. My alt is at about 25k, SR-B, Worked up to a low S. Also did a couple without changing tires. Does help on time in the pits. Finally decided starting mid pack or worse, but not last, wasn't helping, so put in a time. I think it's an 8:56. Oh...all races in the Aston, which has been fun. Anyway, the time gets me top 5 in these rooms, and I did start on pole once. I saw that I had door #7 in that race, (my number!) and decided I needed another win, so I started on mediums. P3 tried the takeout on T1, but I saw him coming and avoided, got through T2 clean and with a second in my pocket, and never looked back. Good 1st lap, no major mistakes at least, pitted with over 10 seconds lead. Everybody close pitted, and I came out still in front. Terrible last lap on hards. Caught the dirt twice, and mowed some grass, touched a wall or 2 but no penalty, still won by 21 seconds. Having fun, and I don't need no stinking fuel savings!
- 123
- Slovenia
Fun race this week, some fuel saving with a very unpredictable ending in the last few corners! 
also featuring @GOTMAXPOWER
also featuring @GOTMAXPOWER
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