"Daily" Race Discussion

[Sven Jurgens]

A clip from my Victory on Race A. Very hollow victory after watching the replay. Totally unfair penalty.

Touching the wall there, however slight, is a penalty. Also going wide at the cutting can trigger a penalty. Yet not bothering to drive the chase properly and 'merge' in again at the pit lane entry is no penalty...

Race A turned into a team game. I'm working with 2 other Canadians to get the dirt bags out, which is pretty much the rest of the room. All known troublemakers. The worst ones are easy to spot since they quit when they miss their punt.

This should be the cover for this week's race A

 

[barak181]

Don't remember them ever enforcing a mandatory stop this way, normally they just have mandatory tyres, but there're only hards available for this one

It all becomes about trying to pit for clean air because tire wear's not going to be an issue

 

[Hasnain282]

It all becomes about trying to pit for clean air because tire wear's not going to be an issue

I wonder if you'll be able to get away with not changing tyres at the stop

 

[Norrin Radd]

I wonder if you'll be able to get away with not changing tyres at the stop

Now I would never even have thought of that. Only one way to find out.

 

[jrbabbitt]

I think you guys are talking about going down the mountain not the esses. I assume you're talking about the dipper through forrests? The esses themselves are easy if you get the dipper right, just flat chat, it's the dipper that makes it tricky.

Yes, sort of , I am mainly talking about the entire section from Skyline to Forrest's Elbow, at the beginning it has a wall with the name "The Esses" so I believed that whole section was called the esses...

 

[Barra333]

Why did PD go to the effort to code a penalty zone on that corner?

 

[Tomstevo15]

I couldn't agree more. I just did race C. Quali 3rd. 1st by first corner as 1st and 2nd were bumping into one another. 2nd corner, punted off the track. Worked hard from 20th to get to 10th and punted off again!

I feel like I am never going to get into a good DR due to being unable to collect points. Im super aware of other drivers and give room but don't get the favour returned

 

[sturk0167]

I couldn't agree more. I just did race C. Quali 3rd. 1st by first corner as 1st and 2nd were bumping into one another. 2nd corner, punted off the track. Worked hard from 20th to get to 10th and punted off again!

I feel like I am never going to get into a good DR due to being unable to collect points. Im super aware of other drivers and give room but don't get the favour returned

Watch your radar, and be willing to compromise your turn, in order to avoid the hit.
Lift off the brakes, and take the turn too fast if you see the blue triangle coming for you.

 

[sturk0167]

Im super aware of other drivers and give room but don't get the favour returned

Assume that everyone wants to hit you. It's cynical, I know, but it's also self-preservation.
Don't trust no one but your mama, but then cut the deck.

 

[Wombat54]

... but do it somewhere that isn't GTPlanet.

seems to be plenty of examples of it here-lots of clips of Idiots of the week and in depth dissections of who did what to who etc.
if the racing was that bad,why not post the replay instead of labelling people clowns when you were obviously mismatched?

 

[Famine]

seems to be plenty of examples of it here

Nope.

lots of clips of Idiots of the week

That's YouTube, not GTPlanet.

and in depth dissections of who did what to who etc

Certainly, but there's no names involved - and when people do make that mistake, they tend to find out pretty quickly about it.

We do not permit naming and shaming here. If you want to do that, do it somewhere that isn't here.

 

[barak181]

seems to be plenty of examples of it here-lots of clips of Idiots of the week and in depth dissections of who did what to who etc.
if the racing was that bad,why not post the replay instead of labelling people clowns when you were obviously mismatched?

Think of it this way - you can make a YT video naming and shaming and link to it here but you can't have the actual naming and shaming hosted by the site.

 

[Wombat54]

@Famine-sorry bout that-will refrain from commenting on spurious allegations.....

 

[Norrin Radd]

Naming and shaming is a mess everywhere, there are always cases where it is allowed (or ignored) and cases where it's stopped that seem wrong. Best to try and just keep within whatever the forum deems OK as it's there rules and we have to abide or go elsewhere.

 

[O604]

Shame only works with those who feel shame. I'm guessing it has the opposite effect on some. So not only does it not work, it gives the shameless what they want.

I know it makes no sense but it's the best I can understand it.

 

[Stilva]

3 more races for me tonight. Better results but hampered by my car of choice this week.

Race 1 I start P10 in a mixed room of A and B drivers. I mainly gain positions due to others going off track, which is fine by me. Up to P4 when the weakness of the Slophy shows it’s face I get overtaken easily on the front stretch and I don’t put up a fight. Then on lap 6 going into the final corner, a driver makes a move as I leave way too room for them to zip on by. I needed to slowdown to avoid going off and drop to P8 where I finish. Good clean race by all and I get the Clean Race Bonus.

Race 2 I start P2 in a room of all B drivers. Slightly fall behind the leader in the first 3 laps, but they fish tail out of the final corner, and I take the lead. Until I go wide in the esses and fall back to P6. Due to the loss of momentum and car choice P7 and P8 catch up to me. But P5 (the former P1 I passed) fish tails again out of the final corner and is slow down the front stretch. P5, myself and P7 go 3-wide going into turn 1 and I brake early the best I can to avoid all 3 of us wrecking. We all survive and carry on. P8 gets into the back of me with myself fighting with P6 and passes me on the final turn. They apologize and I’m not mad, just some elbows out last lap racing.

Race 3 I start P11 in another A/B mixed lobby. I was patient and was rewarded with a P7 finish. Lots of drivers going off track and losing control of their cars. I was P8 until the person in front of me went off track and got a penalty so free spot for me. Nothing dramatic happened to me this race, just some easy driving. I got another Clean Race Bonus as well.

Overall, a fun night of racing. I’m disappointed with my minor mistakes, but they were nothing to ruin a race with. I should jump in the 4C, but I like driving the Slophy too much. I’ve also leaned to defend my corners better to prevent drivers from sticking their nose into what little space I leave and forcing me wide. My throttle control has also improved a bit. That has prevented me from going wide, minus a few times, this week.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Shame only works with those who feel shame. I'm guessing it has the opposite effect on some. So not only does it not work, it gives the shameless what they want.

I know it makes no sense but it's the best I can understand it.

A lot just troll for attention. Best is to ignore them and they'll get bored. By 'shaming' them you're just stroking their ego and let them know they got to you. Plus it's pointless, PD won't do anything.

I don't mind engaging with 'them' on the track. It's mutually assured SR destruction, which just means they're not getting out of the low ranks. Some quit, some agree to bury the hatchet and start racing for real, some are just too darn stubborn.

There are a few now that I don't bother anymore to try to race clean. The rest have one chance, and I don't mean things that could be accidental by that. It's the ones that drive in the middle of the straight, then mirror your moves to block or squeeze you off when making a pass, or brake check.

I'm learning lots of new dirty tactics this week :/

Lol, just got accused of being dirty again just because I won the race and the car that was in first wrecked. He wrecked himself trying to wreck me on the straight. I feigned a pass on the right, switched to the left as he started moving right to block. He used to much input to block me on the left with his right wheels on the grass and went spinning. And I get called dirty. I got the clean race bonus (not that it's reliable) and blue SR (not that that's reliable) but winning = dirty!

Slowly climbing out of the depths, 39 SR atm. But could be gone any moment when getting caught in the T1, T2 brawl. It's only thanks to ghosting that the pack makes it to the cutting. And back to 27 SR, blocking on the straight yadayadayada.

Straights are a problem especially in slower cars. You can see the gears in the mind of the driver ahead turning. Should I 'let' him pass or block and keep my position. Racing rules / etiquette, what's that go to do with winning. It's not in the etiquette videos anyway, so I'm sure plenty people think it's a legitimate strategy.

 

[FA_Hayes]

Took the week off because I'm not confident enough on Fuji and don't have the time to piece together solid laps. Spent some time on it but not enough since we adopted a new kitten and it's like having a baby.

Started learning Spa in the RCZ today and may try some GR4 next week. Really liking Spa so far and think I'll have a pretty good groove on it in clean air.

Meet my new sim racing buddy Levi. He naps on my heel plate and spent his first few nights in the room with my rig.

 

[sturk0167]

Naming and shaming wouldn't mean much here. Shame them in the post-race chat, then threaten them in the next pre-race chat.
A veiled threat like "buckle up", or "tighten your chinstrap" works wonders for psychological warfare.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Naming and shaming wouldn't mean much here. Shame them in the post-race chat, then threaten them in the next pre-race chat.
A veiled threat like "buckle up", or "tighten your chinstrap" works wonders for psychological warfare.

A couple races ago I started with "Any one in here want to race clean", crickets. (All known offenders)
Then "Open season it is". 5 quit during the race, only 4 finished a 2 lap race.

Oh well, reset again. I made it to B/B today, but after 10pm it got too dirty again. Now 7K DR, 13 SR. Toughest challenge yet, getting back to SR.S in race A... It doesn't help that often I wonder, why red SR, and sometimes why blue SR. It's like retaliation is applauded by the SR system, yet trying to avoid problems costs SR... I think it's still just back to back contact that gets penalized. T-Bone, pit manoever from the side, push into walls from the side, that's all still clean race bonus worthy. Run into a brake check is a big no no.

Record penalty today went to someone trying to steal the FL by going full speed from Conrod straight to Murray's corner. He still wasn't fast enough and copped a 7 sec penalty for his efforts. The sad thing is, if he had touched a car before doing that he would have gotten away with it. Plenty people cut straight from the chase to Murray's after rubbing doors and get no penalty, usually knocking another car off when rejoining the track at the pit lane. Without contact I've seen people get 2.5 sec for that shortcut.

Et Voila, 3K DR, 4 SR avoiding contact. I got punted and ground into the wall, but didn't retaliate and thus reset. It's backwards. Guess back to vigilante mode tomorrow to regain SR

 

[Weaves1983]

Got disconnected after the last turn at Fuji in 5th…grrrr!!

 

[Stilva]

Took the week off because I'm not confident enough on Fuji and don't have the time to piece together solid laps. Spent some time on it but not enough since we adopted a new kitten and it's like having a baby.

Started learning Spa in the RCZ today and may try some GR4 next week. Really liking Spa so far and think I'll have a pretty good groove on it in clean air.

Meet my new sim racing buddy Levi. He naps on my heel plate and spent his first few nights in the room with my rig.

Kitty! I'll probably focus on Spa as well. Once you get the flow of Spa it's fantastic to race. There is a great enjoyment for me going full throttle through Eau Rouge and Raidillon. I don't remember ever racing Gr.3 cars here, but I'll go with my favorite in the Vantage. I'm unsure about Race C, but I'll give it a shot at least.

 

[NevilleNobody]

So prepping for next week so I can get straight into racing. Tried about 8 cars round spa, a few laps each, could have gone faster in each one but the order is pretty much right for me anyways.....

Merc
Supra
Ford gt
Shaguar
Ft1 Toyota
Aston
Mustang
M3

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Took the week off because I'm not confident enough on Fuji and don't have the time to piece together solid laps. Spent some time on it but not enough since we adopted a new kitten and it's like having a baby.

Started learning Spa in the RCZ today and may try some GR4 next week. Really liking Spa so far and think I'll have a pretty good groove on it in clean air.

Meet my new sim racing buddy Levi. He naps on my heel plate and spent his first few nights in the room with my rig.

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What a cutie. We picked up two underage kittens that was abandoned by their mother, once they reach the right age they will move to new homes.

 

[Norrin Radd]

This isn't Facebook, go post you cat stuff there!!!!

Spa is one I don't like, so I think I might try that next week and see if getting a grip on the track will change my mind. After all I might not love RBR, but now that I'm competitive there I at least don't want to avoid it.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

So prepping for next week so I can get straight into racing. Tried about 8 cars round spa, a few laps each, could have gone faster in each one but the order is pretty much right for me anyways.....

Merc
Supra
Ford gt
Shaguar
Ft1 Toyota
Aston
Mustang
M3

I'm prepping for next week's C, B has that stupid start behind the chicane so unless you are P1-P4 you have no chance at all.

First I ran 12-15 laps before realising I hadn't used BOP. Then 10 more and I realised that I was at Y+M, not Y+M II.
But after that I got some laps in.
For me the FR are the fastest, then FF, the MR.

Edit: @Norrin Radd . I don't have Facebook. Wouldn't waste my time there. But I see your point, will refrain from off topic

 

[OJBrit]

Took the week off because I'm not confident enough on Fuji and don't have the time to piece together solid laps. Spent some time on it but not enough since we adopted a new kitten and it's like having a baby.

Started learning Spa in the RCZ today and may try some GR4 next week. Really liking Spa so far and think I'll have a pretty good groove on it in clean air.

Meet my new sim racing buddy Levi. He naps on my heel plate and spent his first few nights in the room with my rig.

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Awww... I hope your new co pilot brings you luck. My Fiancee's cat would prefer me to crash I am sure.

 

[MidnightRun85]

Shame only works with those who feel shame. I'm guessing it has the opposite effect on some. So not only does it not work, it gives the shameless what they want.

I know it makes no sense but it's the best I can understand it.

Name and Fame.

 

[Junkman55]

I had only one B race last night with sixteen D rated drivers with only 1 to 2 seconds apart great driving to all.

 

[ILLEAGLE_34]

This isn't Facebook, go post you cat stuff there!!!!

Spa is one I don't like, so I think I might try that next week and see if getting a grip on the track will change my mind. After all I might not love RBR, but now that I'm competitive there I at least don't want to avoid it.

The dude just lost his good friend cat or not. All I saw was a very kind and brief condolence of sorts. Maybe un needed rude comments belong on Facebook? Yes I understand the websites rules but a few heart felt comments between members was nice example that there is a real human connection beyond and video game.
that being said I 100% agree with you about keeping it about forums subject, and not a social media feed. Only a personal opinion that’s worth what it cost you. Sorry if I came off rude.