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Those replies make sense to me. Thanks very much. I've really gotten a lot from this board!

Another question: if I know I'm doing poorly on this course, does it make sense to continue? I guess if I do, eventually my rating will drop to where I'm competitive on the course. I fairly quickly went from D to C to B due to the race on Big Willow, a track I'm more familiar and comfortable with. But I know I need to learn how to adapt to many different courses. Maybe I shouldn't worry about ratings so much.
If you're struggling with a specific daily race combo, it may be more advantageous to just use the qualifying time trial option located next to the race entry option. You get practice to get better & don't risk your DR/SR. Another option is to get early practice for next week's race of your choice. You can turn on the game's BoP option, choose the fastest tire option for that race, & have your qualifying rhythm by the time next Monday arrives.
 
A little (okay, a LOT) late to the game here. Registered long ago, but never really used the site. Big fan of the series. Got GT Sport around the time it first came out, but was disappointed with how buggy online play was. Put it away for a long time. Then dabbled with the VR portion of it... which got me back into it. Played off and on for awhile and finished the campaign mode 100% (including all of the tests and trials -- except Lewis Hamilton stuff. All silver + one gold there). I nearly got 100% on GT6 -- an endurance race or two to go, if I recall correctly. I even golded all of the Vettel challenges.

Not the most technically savy driver... and in many ways, I feel like I'm just going with what feels right compared to what is technically correct. So now I'm trying to get more into the "science" of things.

Since I just finished the GT Sport campaign, I needed something else to do. Did some lobbies, but a good one is hard to find. And even when you find a sensible race (where it's not just drifting or a hodge podge of cars), you don't always find sensible drivers. Discover the daily races. Game changer. Started running them yesterday. Probably have run about 15 of them and won four of them. Two of them were throwaways -- one I got a penalty and when it told me I needed to slow down at the next gate, I thought I needed to do it myself. So I stopped in the middle of the track. The penalty didn't wind down. Like four guys passed me. It was all downhill from there. Another, my wheel disconnected in the middle of the race, so my car started doing burnouts in the middle of the track. LOL. A few were my fault (over driving and/or getting used to going from 1 TCS on most/all of my cars to ZERO). I'd typically make good recoveries, but... Then you also have the ones where you're running top two or three and you get blasted by a dude from behind. I've seen guys running others off the road during WARMUPS. LMAO.

Anyway, sorry for the long story... and as noted, I'm soooo far behind everyone in terms of just discovering the daily races, but... I'll be checking in a lot to lean on y'all for tips and advice.

I'll leave you with this question...

1) how does it seem like in the final turn in the Yamagiwa (B race) that some guys can just arc through the middle while maintaining speed? They drive deep before turning in, barely seem to brake, turn in, and arc through (albeit wide / well off the inner curb) and just fly. I feel like I lose a LOT of time there. Is it better to just try to keep a constant speed through there... or should you be braking before you accelerate back off?

Instead of trying to hit the inner curbing in the dead center portion of it, should I be turning in late, keeping it wide and then arcing back across the inner curb at about "80%" mark (as it begins to really flatten back out into the final stretch?
 
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Well that was way more complex than I thought haha. But in my experience it definitely works. I am too guilty of rage quitting too often though.


Keep trying to get you qualifying time down. Watch lap guides to know your braking points. Try different cars to see which suits you best. What’s your currently quali time? Also, I feel like I saw you in the Big Willow races last week haha. I can relate, I got my rating up from D to B there also
Latest qual time is 01:36.299. I've been following Tidgney's weekly race guide.
 
Latest qual time is 01:36.299. I've been following Tidgney's weekly race guide.
Definitely keep practicing then. Usually I spend half an hour to an hour before racing and at that point I feel like I have a good feel for the track. And even then my time is always getting better. Start of yesterday I had a high 1:35 and felt like I was giving it everything. Today I got it down to 1:33.7. That’s enough for a nearly guaranteed top 3 start in B/S lobbies where I can fight for the win. So keep practicing. Also if you are starting in the midfield my only advice can be focus on being consistent and staying out of trouble. Usually a few people make mistakes or crash.
 
Latest qual time is 01:36.299. I've been following Tidgney's weekly race guide.

My best in the McLaren F1 GTR was a low 1:36, IIRC. Turned a lap or two in the Porsche 911 RSR and shaved a good half second or better off it. Switched to the GR Supra Racing Concept and almost immediately shaved another full second off it. Best I got was 1:34.258. I felt like I could turn more consistent laps with the Porsche, so I’ve stuck with it.

I used to drive with traction control at 1, but now I do it at zero. And I turned ACS off and ABS to weak. It takes some practice getting used to it, but…

In addition to the above, if I could offer any advice (that I often struggle to listen to myself) is back everything up. In slow, out fast. Don’t try to drive too deep.
 
The still having some trouble with the downhill chicane at Yamagiwa. I'm having some successful attempts, but not enough to feel comfortable with other racers around me. I also dropped my time to a 1:34 flat. My optimum time said I had another .5 seconds to gain, and it's going to come from getting that chicane right.

As for next weeks Race C at Dragon Trail...

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Make sense to stop? Firstly, if you're enjoying it keep doing it and secondly, if you're dropping into D DR it suggests you're doing something fundamentally wrong. Have you turned on the racing line sobyou can see the approximate lines you need to take?

I jumped on today and man, have I ever mentioned how much I despise reverse tracks?? Yamagiwa ii feels forced, every damn corner. The decreasing radius through the fast turns is infuriating. Got into the low 34s but the whole thing is an abortion. I'm out till next week.
 
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I jumped on today and man, have I ever mentioned how much I despise reverse tracks?? Yamagiwa ii feels forced, every damn corner. The decreasing radius through the fast turns is infuriating. Got into the low 34s but the whole thing is an abortion. I'm out till next week.
They really do love their reverse tracks. The last (20th Dec.) and the two weeks before (6th Dec.) included a reverse track for Race C. At least Fuji doesn't have a reverse layout, PD would have taken the opportunity immediately if it exists.
 
The deed is done. 200 wins before the end of the year has been achieved.

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With that move it scored my 200th win. Suffice to say I was happy to reach that amount of wins that I never thought I would achieve.

Congrats on the milestone. I watched this video earlier tonight... then settled in for a race. Won from the pole (figured if I could get the first few turns in cleanly, I'd create enough gap where the divebombers didn't stand a chance). Took a bit of a break and then just ran another. Started third. A pretty aggressive racer took himself out (overdriving) so it was myself and the leader in a Supra. Good clean, tight racing. Coming to stripe on the fourth lap, I was all over his bumper. Remembered what you did. Deked a little to the right. He bit. I immediatlely slid to the left and got to his inside. Didn't rough him up. Braked plenty early knowing I would have the inside line going into T1. He didn't try anything dirty and I got a pretty good run off T1... just enough to create separation. Once I did that, I ran my lines and won by about half a second. Not nearly the milestone -- just my fourth win (I just started daily races yesterday), but my heart was racing. How do you capture / share your footage? I thought I read that the Playstation typically records X amount of minutes of previous footage, and then you can just do a video share.

Is there a way for me to still get the footage?

The still having some trouble with the downhill chicane at Yamagiwa. I'm having some successful attempts, but not enough to feel comfortable with other racers around me. I also dropped my time to a 1:34 flat.
My best time is 1:34.258, so you probably don't need a ton of advice from me (LOL), but I've found I hit it the best when I brake quickly as I'm going down the hill (before I even put a ton of wheel input to the right into it). Then again before I get into the two little turns. Then almost just coast (no brakes/no acceleration) and accelerate in an arc across the final corner (off to the right side) and carry speed off to the left. You go in a lot slower, but come out a lot more clean and under control. It's hard to do this when you've got aggressive drivers all over your arse, but... if you're clear behind you, it's amazing how much of a run you can get on people ahead of you, especially if they're sliding into the grass, etc.
 
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They really do love their reverse tracks. The last (20th Dec.) and the two weeks before (6th Dec.) included a reverse track for Race C. At least Fuji doesn't have a reverse layout, PD would have taken the opportunity immediately if it exists.
The penalty zone is now right before the finish line. I don't think PD ever thinks those through. Back to cars braking before the line after missing the final bit of the left right section.

The FT-1 is very nice on that track. I got just under 1:33 in race, still plenty time to gain in that awkward chicane :/
 
Congrats on the milestone. I watched this video earlier tonight... then settled in for a race. Won from the pole (figured if I could get the first few turns in cleanly, I'd create enough gap where the divebombers didn't stand a chance). Took a bit of a break and then just ran another. Started third. A pretty aggressive racer took himself out (overdriving) so it was myself and the leader in a Supra. Good clean, tight racing. Coming to stripe on the fourth lap, I was all over his bumper. Remembered what you did. Deked a little to the right. He bit. I immediatlely slid to the left and got to his inside. Didn't rough him up. Braked plenty early knowing I would have the inside line going into T1. He didn't try anything dirty and I got a pretty good run off T1... just enough to create separation. Once I did that, I ran my lines and won by about half a second. Not nearly the milestone -- just my fourth win (I just started daily races yesterday), but my heart was racing. How do you capture / share your footage? I thought I read that the Playstation typically records X amount of minutes of previous footage, and then you can just do a video share.

Is there a way for me to still get the footage?
What I do is either is double tapping the Share button on the DS4 controller and that's where the recording begins or the system already records your gameplay up until an hour so if lets say you haven't reached that time yet and you managed to have something good within the 1 hour, you can then press the Share button and select Share Video Clip or something and there you have the footage recorded.
Great achievement, congratulations.

I'm wondering though, about that move: despite the beauty and the "cheekiness" of it, is it legal ? Are you allowed to make some many changes of lines in the offense ? I know in defense it's not.

Personally, i would hate having to defend against something like this lol, but once again I genuinely don't know if it's genius, OKish or just wrong.
To me just like others it fine by me because he left the gap open so I figured that's where I make my move and alas it worked.

I sometimes get that instinct where if I see a gap that's feasible enough for an overtake I may as well risk it. There were some other times that I managed to pull a switch like this one in Sardegna for example from a FIA race.

 
They really do love their reverse tracks. The last (20th Dec.) and the two weeks before (6th Dec.) included a reverse track for Race C. At least Fuji doesn't have a reverse layout, PD would have taken the opportunity immediately if it exists.
Oh, the real tracks can be run in reverse, unofficially. There is likely some contract somewhere that says you won't run the tracks in reverse. Even if running them in reverse, turns like The Corkscrew & Eau Rouge would be frightening to run backwards, even in a game.
 
A little (okay, a LOT) late to the game here. Registered long ago, but never really used the site. Big fan of the series. Got GT Sport around the time it first came out, but was disappointed with how buggy online play was. Put it away for a long time. Then dabbled with the VR portion of it... which got me back into it. Played off and on for awhile and finished the campaign mode 100% (including all of the tests and trials -- except Lewis Hamilton stuff. All silver + one gold there). I nearly got 100% on GT6 -- an endurance race or two to go, if I recall correctly. I even golded all of the Vettel challenges.

Not the most technically savy driver... and in many ways, I feel like I'm just going with what feels right compared to what is technically correct. So now I'm trying to get more into the "science" of things.

Since I just finished the GT Sport campaign, I needed something else to do. Did some lobbies, but a good one is hard to find. And even when you find a sensible race (where it's not just drifting or a hodge podge of cars), you don't always find sensible drivers. Discover the daily races. Game changer. Started running them yesterday. Probably have run about 15 of them and won four of them. Two of them were throwaways -- one I got a penalty and when it told me I needed to slow down at the next gate, I thought I needed to do it myself. So I stopped in the middle of the track. The penalty didn't wind down. Like four guys passed me. It was all downhill from there. Another, my wheel disconnected in the middle of the race, so my car started doing burnouts in the middle of the track. LOL. A few were my fault (over driving and/or getting used to going from 1 TCS on most/all of my cars to ZERO). I'd typically make good recoveries, but... Then you also have the ones where you're running top two or three and you get blasted by a dude from behind. I've seen guys running others off the road during WARMUPS. LMAO.

Anyway, sorry for the long story... and as noted, I'm soooo far behind everyone in terms of just discovering the daily races, but... I'll be checking in a lot to lean on y'all for tips and advice.

I'll leave you with this question...

1) how does it seem like in the final turn in the Yamagiwa (B race) that some guys can just arc through the middle while maintaining speed? They drive deep before turning in, barely seem to brake, turn in, and arc through (albeit wide / well off the inner curb) and just fly. I feel like I lose a LOT of time there. Is it better to just try to keep a constant speed through there... or should you be braking before you accelerate back off?

Instead of trying to hit the inner curbing in the dead center portion of it, should I be turning in late, keeping it wide and then arcing back across the inner curb at about "80%" mark (as it begins to really flatten back out into the final stretch?
In the other sweeping right hander you don't even need to brake. Just lift off and start a little wide and use the inner portion of of the track/curb on exit. The turn you are talking about is basically the same, except you will probably need a dab of the brakes to take off a little speed before you turn in. I am speaking more from what I have read/watched about this layout. My ability to do these turns well is not great, despite knowing how I should be handling them, I am still not as fast on exit as I would like.

You can always go into qualifying and follow some top 10 ghosts to see their lines, or, as others noted, check out Mistah's and Tidgney's you tube track guides on you tube.
 
The still having some trouble with the downhill chicane at Yamagiwa. I'm having some successful attempts, but not enough to feel comfortable with other racers around me. I also dropped my time to a 1:34 flat. My optimum time said I had another .5 seconds to gain, and it's going to come from getting that chicane right.

As for next weeks Race C at Dragon Trail...

kofi kingston wwe GIF
I’m having the same problem, and doing a similar lap time. It’s a bit of a tricky one, I don’t know whether to drop down to second, or try and keep it pinned in 3rd and ride the curbs. Braking and turning right really unsettles the car, what car are you using?
 
It's been fun for a while on race B, yet now I'm getting matched with the dirty A/S crowd again. So much pushing, diving, little bump here and there. **** OFF. Low DR.A is the place where a holes reside. It's not a game of tag FFS.

Time to play something else me thinks. Although, need to get in shape for the chicane of death next week :lol:
 
Really struggling recently. Down 10k DR. Zero pace using the wheel and any sort of contact destroys me. Can't correct myself at all. Also has lead me to quitting more races than I finish
 
It's been fun for a while on race B, yet now I'm getting matched with the dirty A/S crowd again. So much pushing, diving, little bump here and there. **** OFF. Low DR.A is the place where a holes reside. It's not a game of tag FFS.

Time to play something else me thinks. Although, need to get in shape for the chicane of death next week :lol:
Try joining the DR D lot, it’s carnage down here!
 
I've been A and S for months, there's the odd dodgy character but for the most part it has been ok. The primary issue is just diving and using you as a brake, I.e they wouldn't make the corner without you there.
Yes exactly that behavior. It's not straight up dive bombs, just enough to either dive stick a nose on your inside bumper to then push through, or a little bump at the apex to mess up your corner exit.

It was worse last week though on race C. It really looked like a game of tag sometimes. Car 1.2 sec behind before the corner, dive touches me at the apex, then over 1.2 sec behind again after the corner.

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Try joining the DR D lot, it’s carnage down here!
Carnage is easier to avoid than calculated dirty driving. Unless there's a pusher behind you, pushing you into the carnage lol. DR.D has a bit more self preservation sense, only in the A/S room people think it's a good idea to enter that awkward chicane 3 wide :ouch:
 
Yes exactly that behavior. It's not straight up dive bombs, just enough to either dive stick a nose on your inside bumper to then push through, or a little bump at the apex to mess up your corner exit.

It was worse last week though on race C. It really looked like a game of tag sometimes. Car 1.2 sec behind before the corner, dive touches me at the apex, then over 1.2 sec behind again after the corner.

This would have been appropriate for a livery
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Carnage is easier to avoid than calculated dirty driving. Unless there's a pusher behind you, pushing you into the carnage lol. DR.D has a bit more self preservation sense, only in the A/S room people think it's a good idea to enter that awkward chicane 3 wide :ouch:
I’d expect better from Dr A racers, fortunately on Race B I’ve really found my groove and have been starting on pole (quick by DR D standards) and avoid the worst of it. Will be gutted when the daily races change again! Getting back into GT Sport after a break
 
I am not sure if is only my impression or if someone else saw the same things. I noticed that penalty system in the races has worsened in the last few weeks. Players who cut the chicanes, crash, or throw you off the track, where are the penalties? In these conditions the races are very frustrating. I don't think this problem will be fixed in Gt7, unfortunately damages and penalties will remain unsolved.
 
At least Fuji doesn't have a reverse layout
Actually Fuji is great fun in reverse.

Did some lobbies, but a good one is hard to find. And even when you find a sensible race (where it's not just drifting or a hodge podge of cars), you don't always find sensible drivers.
If you feel like driving some lobbies there's a whole sector devoted to that here in the forum.
 
I am not sure if is only my impression or if someone else saw the same things. I noticed that penalty system in the races has worsened in the last few weeks. Players who cut the chicanes, crash, or throw you off the track, where are the penalties? In these conditions the races are very frustrating. I don't think this problem will be fixed in Gt7, unfortunately damages and penalties will remain unsolved.
It's been like this for months now.
 
My best time is 1:34.258, so you probably don't need a ton of advice from me (LOL), but I've found I hit it the best when I brake quickly as I'm going down the hill (before I even put a ton of wheel input to the right into it). Then again before I get into the two little turns. Then almost just coast (no brakes/no acceleration) and accelerate in an arc across the final corner (off to the right side) and carry speed off to the left. You go in a lot slower, but come out a lot more clean and under control.
I'm doing basically the same thing as you but I do a quick tap of the brake to get lined up for the exit before the final corner of the section. It's just getting the initial entry angle and speed right for me. Any advice is welcome by me so I'll take it.
I’m having the same problem, and doing a similar lap time. It’s a bit of a tricky one, I don’t know whether to drop down to second, or try and keep it pinned in 3rd and ride the curbs. Braking and turning right really unsettles the car, what car are you using?
I'm using the Vantage for this race. But, I use the Vantage for most Gr.3 races as I have the most experience with it. If you use it, your results may vary. I stay in 3rd gear through the section and hug the curbs. I think 2nd gear would lose you a bunch of speed.
 
I am not sure if is only my impression or if someone else saw the same things. I noticed that penalty system in the races has worsened in the last few weeks. Players who cut the chicanes, crash, or throw you off the track, where are the penalties? In these conditions the races are very frustrating. I don't think this problem will be fixed in Gt7, unfortunately damages and penalties will remain unsolved.
Penalties for ramming people have been gone for over 6 months.

Shortcut penalties are still there in some places, however if you touch / hit another car first, you don't get a shortcut penalty. People have figured this out and are abusing it to cut chicanes.

Same for wall penalties / wall riding. Touch another car first and you get 3 sec immunity to wall penalties.


SR deductions only happen now for front to back contact if the impact was forceful enough. However it's still the same as always, higher DR and 'surviving' are the two factors to determine blame and thus SR deduction. If you touch a wreck as the 3rd person and manage to stay on the road, you're the one that gets the blame.

It's bad nowadays on the track, bad enough it's putting me off getting GT7 day one. I know I can't resist playing it at some point, but I might wait until it hits the bargain bins as I'm pretty disgusted about the state PD left GT Sport in. I'll probably wait for PSVR 2.0 first before getting GT7, then play the campaign in VR.
 
Really struggling recently. Down 10k DR. Zero pace using the wheel and any sort of contact destroys me. Can't correct myself at all. Also has lead me to quitting more races than I finish
If you had years of controller training & are switching to a wheel/pedal setup, there is a learning curve. I do not advise a plug & play mentality. You will need to use in game adjustments to tailor the experience to the best for you. My wheel had a monster amount of force feedback. It may have been realistic, but it was aggressive & tiring. So, I turned it down & could handle the cars much better. Perhaps just running through many laps in the time trial mode would work to help you become acclimated to the wheel/car/track combo.
I am not sure if is only my impression or if someone else saw the same things. I noticed that penalty system in the races has worsened in the last few weeks. Players who cut the chicanes, crash, or throw you off the track, where are the penalties? In these conditions the races are very frustrating. I don't think this problem will be fixed in Gt7, unfortunately damages and penalties will remain unsolved.
Sven beat me to it,but track cutting still gets publicly shamed. I got one last week trying to dodge someone else.

Just started this week on race B. Damn, that big chicane at the bottom of the hill is a bigger bear than I remembered.
 
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Two races for me tonight with surprisingly decent results for me at least.

Race 1 I’m in P12 which is lower I expected going in. My race was rather uneventful as I just did my thing and did what I could. I made an unintentional but awesome move at the first hairpin as a driver went just wide enough for me to sneak through on the inside. Since my race pace was bad due to some minor off tracks, I couldn’t catch anybody in front of me. I also managed not to bin it in the downhill chicane which was cool. Thanks to rage quitters and others going off track I made it up to finish P7!

In race 2 I’m in P11 and more of the same. Some minor mistakes killed my race pace. I did almost spin somebody on lap 1, but I let them get ahead of me and we continued. I made every spot by way of others misfortune which is the only way I’m going to make positions this week. I chill in P8 until P7 spins out in the final corner and I get another freebie for a P7 finish. I got a clean race bonus as well.

Overall, a way better than expected night of racing. Is my luck going to continue? Probably not. But I think if I can keep it on track, I can gain a few spots at least the decent results will be there. I do need to work on getting my qualifying time better obviously. It should make a difference and I can hopefully keep better pace with the front of the pack.
 
I don't know why I keep trying.

I entered 1 race, and my DR dropped to D. All thanks to getting shoved off the track twice. Not something I did.....but another driver running me off the track. And one was an actual hit from behind to knock me through a chicane. He actually cut the chicane, hit me, ran me off the track, then continued on. No penalty for him.

The other was a side swipe that ran me wide, yet they stayed on the track. And as always, no penalty for the offender.

The sport mode is basically a joke at this point. I say bring back the penalties and if you hit another driver, a 1 second penalty should be given.....BUT TO THE DRIVER THAT DID THE HITTING, NOT THE ONE THAT GOT RAN OFF THE TRACK! And if you get 3 in 1 race, you get disqualified. The penalties need to be severe. Yes, people will complain. So be it. Be better at driving and/or stop using other drivers to make your way around the track simply because you're too lazy to learn the proper lines and braking points.
 
I don't know why I keep trying.

I entered 1 race, and my DR dropped to D. All thanks to getting shoved off the track twice. Not something I did.....but another driver running me off the track. And one was an actual hit from behind to knock me through a chicane. He actually cut the chicane, hit me, ran me off the track, then continued on. No penalty for him.

The other was a side swipe that ran me wide, yet they stayed on the track. And as always, no penalty for the offender.

The sport mode is basically a joke at this point. I say bring back the penalties and if you hit another driver, a 1 second penalty should be given.....BUT TO THE DRIVER THAT DID THE HITTING, NOT THE ONE THAT GOT RAN OFF THE TRACK! And if you get 3 in 1 race, you get disqualified. The penalties need to be severe. Yes, people will complain. So be it. Be better at driving and/or stop using other drivers to make your way around the track simply because you're too lazy to learn the proper lines and braking points.
DSQing people in an online lobby for 3 penalties in a race would be terrible. A penalty system is always bound to give unfair penalties. That’s just asking for people to get DSQed for being a victim.
 
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