- 394
- pumaATTACK
Got my qualifying time down to a 32.200 using the Atenza. Good enough to start in the top 5 most races.
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- 153
- Idaho, USA
- SMcQueen46
So I've been racing (A) in rooms with my fellow SR miscreants: mix of A,B, C, and D drivers, all with SR A. They can sure be rough! Did manage to get my qual time down to 4:38.191, so that usually puts me in prime position to be assaulted by everybody behind me! However, being in last place after T1 does bring a somewhat satisfying freedom of action; i.e., I don't have to be worried about being punted by someone behind me at Mulsanne Corner. And there's usually enough carnage there to let me move up in position. Lots of fun (for some meaning of the word "fun").
- 129
- Toronto, ON
- mdents27
Having a pretty good evening in race A, have a 4:34.470 quali time so that puts me on the front row pretty much every race in B/S. Sadly there are still people who don't know when to brake going into Mulsanne that cost me a couple of races but lots and lots of podiums and DR up.
Next week not sure I'm gonna like the races tbh.
Next week not sure I'm gonna like the races tbh.
- 129
- Toronto, ON
- mdents27
Good race @smcqueen46
- 153
- Idaho, USA
- SMcQueen46
- 129
- Toronto, ON
- mdents27
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- 153
- Idaho, USA
- SMcQueen46
- 394
- pumaATTACK
So I’m trying to get better overall and have been wondering if I should switch to manual transmission. I have always done automatic since the GT1 days and I am on a controller.
Should I make the switch to manual? If so any tips on the transition? Such as brake before downshifting, during or downshift then brake?
Thanks!
Should I make the switch to manual? If so any tips on the transition? Such as brake before downshifting, during or downshift then brake?
Thanks!
- 153
- Idaho, USA
- SMcQueen46
I'm on a wheel, but I treat it like a car and generally downshift WHILE braking. There might be exceptions, like if I need to downshift for acceleration. More experienced drivers might have better answers.
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
I brake before down shifting, if you shift down too early you risk locking up the wheels and sliding.
MT is very useful, you can stick to a higher gear to smoothly make a corner. And you can shift up early in a corner if it looks like you might go a bit wide. Instead of having to lift you're already in the next gear at corner exit. You can shift late to burn more fuel in C races, or shift early to save fuel.
It will take a while to get into the rhythm, yet then it will be second nature. I had to turn on MT in Forza Horizon as I couldn't drive automatic anymore!
- 2,372
The GT-R peaks at 267/8 if it gets a drag up the straight. In clean air it hits 255/256 at the top on the hill and 264 at the bottom after that. I am yet to get a drag from another GT-R but i am pretty confident it would just go faster :-)
I tend to lose speed through the tight corners before the fast sections leading up to the straight, but leading up to the straight through the fast section i can keep up and make a bit of time. And if i am just close enough to car in front i will eat him on the straight. I gain over a second on the slower cars. And after the straight the GT-R is hard to pass clean, it's very fast out of the corners and stable as a brick...
- 4,548
- Australia
Starting to get a little more comfortable with the wheel. Had a nice moment where I got the 86 into a controlled slide, but otherwise still throwing it off the road too much and unable to break into the 7:03's in qualifying haha.
- 1,565
- United Kingdom
What BB is recommended for the Lancer?
- 129
- Toronto, ON
- mdents27
Only if they haven’t left the room
- 2,035
- Bristol, UK
- OJBrit
I got all my spins out of the way on the first lap and got a clean 2nd lap and got a 13! The car felt nice on this lap but I wouldn't use it in the race. Not sure I could keep it on the black stuff.
- 1,777
- Willow Springs
- schlafhund
Give it a bit of time and eventually manual will feel completely natural to you. I knew I had to make the switch in order to become a better and faster driver and if I recall correctly I actually switched as Sport released. Jurgens gave you a few details where manual is superior and I can only co-sign on that.
- 5,083
- Nor Cal
- sturk0167
For some insane reason, they decided to hide the SR penalties that use to be displayed right away when you commit an infraction.
At the same time, they quit giving time penalties for SR violations.
That's why the racing nowadays is dirtier than ever. The company really is letting down it's customers.
The biggest problem for me is when I get a red rating after a race and have no idea why. Of course, many times I know exactly what I did. But, for instance, in races where they penalize bump-drafting, we don't really know if we are hurting ourselves.
They gotta give the notification right when the penalty occurs. It's how you modify behavior.
Example:
If you come home from work and see that your dog has torn up one of your shoes, and then swat him with a newspaper, or however you punish him, he has no damn idea why he's in trouble (he chewed up that shoe 6 hours ago).
The dog's just gonna think you're a jerk, and hasn't learned anything about not chewing on shoes.
However, if you see him biting the shoe, and you yell at him right away, he'll understand what he is not supposed to do.
*Mr. McQueen, if you get hit, I believe your track limit immunity only lasts for about 4 or 5 seconds.
I think it depends on the car. I find the benefits of using manual transmission in race cars (Gr.4 and above) to be minimal.
The auto trans in those cars works really well. For me, it's just too much distraction.
In the street cars, 90% of the time, manual trans is necessary.
Some of us just never get good with M/T in the faster cars.
When I saw you at Nord on Wednesday, I accidentally entered that race with M/T, and probably made at least 20 shifting mistakes.
Like I said above, it distracted the hell out of me.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, though. Most people adapt to manual much better than me.
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- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
Last night in the TPC weekly lobby I had no clue how to shift the Raptor either, half the time I was bouncing off the rev limiter or in too high of a gear being a road block on the trackI think it depends on the car. I find the benefits of using manual transmission in race cars (Gr.4 and above) to be minimal.
The auto trans in those cars works really well. For me, it's just too much distraction.
In the street cars, 90% of the time manual trans is necessary.
Some of us just never get good with M/T in the faster cars.
When I saw you at Nord on Wednesday, I accidentally entered that race with M/T, and probably made at least 20 shifting mistakes.
Like I said above, it distracted the hell out of me.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, though. Most people adapt to manual much better than me.
I had my sound set too low to hear the engine doh.And it takes a long time before recovering from cashes and punts becomes smooth with MT. It doesn't take that long to get into the rhythm of a lap (except the Nord
with its 500 corners) but then getting as smooth with recoveries and adjusting to traffic is the next step.Shifting was most useful when we still had fuel conservation in race C. You can still burn more fuel to reduce the car weight by late shifting but that's far less effective than saving fuel for a no stop or to save time in the pits. And yep, the GR.1 cars work perfectly fine in AT.
I just got a compliment, but didn't know it until I googled it lol. Capolavoro, it's a good word! (Masterpiece) after another victory on the Nord. Not sure though why the Argentinian used Italian (According to google), maybe it is a bad word in Spanish
- 1,782
- United Kingdom
- bone_tone
I'm with you on this, just can't get on with MT. It just means you have to be careful with your car choice, as some don't work well on AT!I think it depends on the car. I find the benefits of using manual transmission in race cars (Gr.4 and above) to be minimal.
The auto trans in those cars works really well. For me, it's just too much distraction.
In the street cars, 90% of the time, manual trans is necessary.
Some of us just never get good with M/T in the faster cars.
When I saw you at Nord on Wednesday, I accidentally entered that race with M/T, and probably made at least 20 shifting mistakes.
Like I said above, it distracted the hell out of me.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, though
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- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
On AT I started working with the automatic shifting for efficient cornering. Adjusting my lines to get the car shifting at the optimal times. And yep, some cars just don't fit well with the track on AT. With MT you can stick to a gear, sometimes it's more efficient to bounce of the limiter right before a braking zone instead of having the car shift up and down again.
It's always a good idea to smoothly carry speed through a corner and AT 'taught' me to smooth out my speed curve to stay within a gear range for optimal cornering. Avoid that short drop to a lower gear or shifting up too early in a chicane.
AT is more challenging to get the best corner speed while MT can also be a savior to stop the car spinning out, shift up early to get the car back in line instead of the back stepping out too far. Both teach you a lot about about cornering. In the end I did get faster with MT and it feels nice to be the one to decide when to shift
I use X and [] for shifting, R2 for gas, works for me.
- 417
- North Bohemia
I ran into @Sven Jurgens last night on my US account. I would have gotten you on the straight if that Toyota hadn't ended it for me. Great race. Finally someone with some pace on the Nord. 👍
The WRX is really good, the grip is insane. You can go full throttle when you couldn't even start thinking about it in an FF or FR car but it lacks the top end for the straights. If there's someone in your slipstream and no one in front of you, you're an easy target. That Lexus has got some legs, I might give it a go tonight.
The WRX is really good, the grip is insane. You can go full throttle when you couldn't even start thinking about it in an FF or FR car but it lacks the top end for the straights. If there's someone in your slipstream and no one in front of you, you're an easy target. That Lexus has got some legs, I might give it a go tonight.
- 153
- Idaho, USA
- SMcQueen46
Is there any way to know in advance what car might be provided for race A next week?
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
@BaareCZ Great race! One of the best So clean!
The WRX is a challenge in the Lexus. Just now an Argentinian used it to crash me lol. WRX is fast through the second half. You wouldn't have gotten me on the straight though, too much top speed in the Lexus for the WRX to draft pass. My nemesis is the Huracan, can't draft pass it. If I wait too long to make a pass the Huracan is already at top speed and I still lose the sprint down the hill, if I try sooner the Huracan simply outpaces me again. The Huracan is slow though the second half though, but got to pass it early to make a gap before the straight or have someone to draft on the straight.
The 86 is the meta now in the top split rooms. 6:57 pole, 7:03 lap two. Out of my league. The GT-R is fast too and unfortunately used by a lot of dirty drivers. Never trust that car lol.
I reset myself to D/E last night but already 'stuck' at 99 SR again. Racing with full B/S rooms today. Messy Saturday but also plenty clean drivers. 7:08 on pole I have a chance at FL at least. Last to first victory is possible but they need to fight a bit at the front so I can catch up lap 2
So clean!The WRX is a challenge in the Lexus. Just now an Argentinian used it to crash me lol. WRX is fast through the second half. You wouldn't have gotten me on the straight though, too much top speed in the Lexus for the WRX to draft pass. My nemesis is the Huracan, can't draft pass it. If I wait too long to make a pass the Huracan is already at top speed and I still lose the sprint down the hill, if I try sooner the Huracan simply outpaces me again. The Huracan is slow though the second half though, but got to pass it early to make a gap before the straight or have someone to draft on the straight.
The 86 is the meta now in the top split rooms. 6:57 pole, 7:03 lap two. Out of my league. The GT-R is fast too and unfortunately used by a lot of dirty drivers. Never trust that car lol.
I reset myself to D/E last night but already 'stuck' at 99 SR again. Racing with full B/S rooms today. Messy Saturday but also plenty clean drivers. 7:08 on pole I have a chance at FL at least. Last to first victory is possible but they need to fight a bit at the front so I can catch up lap 2
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- 1,782
- United Kingdom
- bone_tone
I've less of an excuse really as I use a wheel. Definitely couldn't manage MT with a controller - in fact, I can't even keep the car on track using a controller!On AT I started working with the automatic shifting for efficient cornering. Adjusting my lines to get the car shifting at the optimal times. And yep, some cars just don't fit well with the track on AT. With MT you can stick to a gear, sometimes it's more efficient to bounce of the limiter right before a braking zone instead of having the car shift up and down again.
It's always a good idea to smoothly carry speed through a corner and AT 'taught' me to smooth out my speed curve to stay within a gear range for optimal cornering. Avoid that short drop to a lower gear or shifting up too early in a chicane.
AT is more challenging to get the best corner speed while MT can also be a savior to stop the car spinning out, shift up early to get the car back in line instead of the back stepping out too far. Both teach you a lot about about cornering. In the end I did get faster with MT and it feels nice to be the one to decide when to shift
- 2,035
- Bristol, UK
- OJBrit
Not really. You can guess based on the grouping (i.e. next week is N300) as PD seem to use common combinations. But they have often surprised us.
- 153
- Idaho, USA
- SMcQueen46
- 394
- pumaATTACK
Been practicing the MT and learned I much prefer the Box and X buttons for gear changes instead of L1/R1.
Got my qualifying time to within .3 seconds of my AT time. Just gotta take some more time to stop thinking about shifting and focus on my line and brake points again.
Got my qualifying time to within .3 seconds of my AT time. Just gotta take some more time to stop thinking about shifting and focus on my line and brake points again.
- 5,585
- Druids Bend
- Z4E_Midnight85
Nice work!! That's a cracking time!!!
Just watching your lap, and there's a few corners where you lift and I stay flat, like before the first straight and the left hander at the end of it, but you make up for it in a lot of other places. I reckon you could run a low 12, high 11....
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- 153
- Idaho, USA
- SMcQueen46
Finally got a couple of W's in the A race!
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