Daily roulette is rigged.
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Where did you find this out?
Do you know why transactions introduced in this game? How transactions will earn them money if daily roulette gives people they dont have? They rigged the roulette with introducing transactions so they can earn more money.
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That is a hypothesis but do you have any facts?
The more expensive cars are not purchasable either, so they haven't switched grinding for spending real money.
The more expensive cars are not purchasable either, so they haven't switched grinding for spending real money.
If they make 20m cars can be obtainable via ps store pd wont able to deal with outcry of the community. Lots of people would cry about kids running with their 330 p4 thx to his mom credit card while poor ones has to grind like a no lifer.
Pd didnt want to deal with this so they only allowed less then 2m cars can be obtainable via ps store.
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More hypothesis.
And I really don't think PD care about what the fans say, even top level drivers have little input.
And I really don't think PD care about what the fans say, even top level drivers have little input.
Thorin Cain
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The more cars you have, the more chance the gift car is going to be one you already have, seems like a no brainer.
As for the rest of your unsubstantiated claims, come back when you can prove it undeniably.
FYI in the last few weeks I received an Audi R18 that I didn't have, a Fittipaldi VGT I didn't have, a Arbath 500 I didn't have and a Subaru WRX STI Time attack car that I didn't have. In fact looking at my last 10 gift cars in my garage right now 40% of them I didn't already have... yes, it wasn't as many as those I already had but with a 260 car garage those odds aren't too bad.
Yes. They were added to allow people who will happily pay to get what they want, to do so without playing the game to earn the credits necessary. They get the car, Sony/PD makes some more money...everyone involved is happy. They don't force anyone, in fact they even allow you to turn off the option in-game any time you desire.
Want to prove they rigged the roulette, show us the code. Want to be taken seriously, act your "age".
Theory is true if you cant prove its wrong. So how about show us the code of the unrigged roulette if you are really so damn sure?
And oh btw in that week all i get is nothing but dupe.
Pd actually cares about community thats why we are getting free updates.
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Most of the conspiracy theories proved they are wrong.
You see that im not programmer who can data mine the game. So how about stop asking me codes of the game? Me or not anyone here can do that. Its so pointless to ask.
They are practically same thing.
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- Turin
- Falken-N7
- N7Falken
Not really, most conspiracy theories still exist and spread because they can't be proven, since they're all based on "documents" that "a former G-man showed", but at the same time can't be debunked. They aren't facts anyways (chemtrails for example).
And, I won two 330 P4's from the daily workout lottery. I also won a crapton of MiTo's and Clio's.
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Ok, I am beginning to think trying to have a constructive argument with someone who can't even agree with themselves is going to be quite difficult.
Essentially you have said you have no proof and that it is not possible to obtain, so unless you have anything more to add other than stating something you can't prove over and over, this thread is done.
Silver Arrows
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How in the hell are we supposed to show the code of an unrigged roulette when we can't even come to an agreement on what the parameters of the daily work out roulette even is?
Really, the claims made by you in the past 7 pages of this thread says to me that you need to be the one that has to show their work, considering you're the one that has the conviction in that what he thinks is true. But then we get back to the above point.
Want my advice? Take a breath, and just live with it. Ultimately, the daily workout and the subsequent car that you get is such a small portion of the gameplay that you can get out of GT Sport that to make this thread, and to continue to shout from the top of the mountain that PD rigged it means that maybe you need to take a break, or let it die and just enjoy the game?
How im suppose to show the code? If you are saying its UNRIGGED then you gotta prove it also. You cant just say no.
Ahh yeah wish me good luck about having fun when my all play time is boring and mind ****ing grinding. Economy system is already one of the most garbage system i have ever seen and daily roulette isnt helping a bit.
Thorin Cain
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The burden of proof falls on the one making the claim of fact, not those who are being exclaimed to.
You'll notice I didn't say it wasn't rigged. Why? Because I don't know.
I can only go by my own experiences or facts substantiated by evidence. Unlike you, I don't make claims of fact without evidence. But my experiences do show me that most of what you have claimed is false.
No, we can guess you are not a programmer who can data mine. We don't know! Do you see the pattern emerging here? And my guess is you will continually be asked to show proof of any claim of fact as long as you still keep spewing your opinions as if they are.
Silver Arrows
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You're making no sense, but then again, it's been that way since the first few pages. Neither of us can show the code, because it hasn't been made available, and probably never will. We can make educated guesses, as Famine has up thread (and I am much more willing to take his word for it much more then anyone else) but chances are, we might never know what truly goes on behind the scenes with the daily workout roulette.
Maybe you need to take a break from GTS wholesale? Play something else. Because if you are really like this over something as inconsequential, as small as this, then you could definitely use it.
Breaking up from gt sport will not fix daily roulette.
You are saying im wrong which is a claim. That means you claim the opposite things i said so here we go. You are making claims and you are not proving any of them.
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Silver Arrows
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...does it really need fixing? Because from where I am standing, it doesn't. Yeah it sucks getting duplicates, but again, it is such an inconsequential thing that I don't think it needs the all hands on deck fixing you think it needs. Though I certainly agree with the notion that the game's economy was poorly thought out and incredibly grindy...but that's something that has been present since the beginning of GT.
Nevertheless, I'm done. It's obvious that you think you are correct in your assumptions and won't change. If you want to think that PD rigged the daily workout roulette, then that's your perogative.
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- Melbourne
- LotusEvoraGTE
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How is this thread not locked already, let alone accumulated about 7 pages worth of arguing to a brick wall?
Anyway, my take: It's not rigged, it just comes down to bad luck. Plus it's not like you'll be able to roll 20mil cars all the time, since the chances of actually getting one would be really slim anyway.
Anyway, my take: It's not rigged, it just comes down to bad luck. Plus it's not like you'll be able to roll 20mil cars all the time, since the chances of actually getting one would be really slim anyway.
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- Melbourne
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Youll never able to roll 20m cars thx to the rigged system. And your take doesnt have any proof like any others.
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- Giorgos_Ferrari
So you are saying your points are valid without any proof?
And oh good bye if you think its ridiculous. No one forcing you to write anyway.
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- Greece
- Giorgos_Ferrari
You see im not making any points but if i want a car im saving up the cash needed instead of waiting to get it from a very small random chance thingy by just doing 4-5 laps every day for free then getting pissed at it even tho i know already my chance was very small and argue in a forum for days about it.
Your chances is less then small.Its nearly nonexistent.
And dont worry i already grinded for buying some 20m cars. Thats not the point. Point is daily roulette tends to give cars you already have.
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Wait so let me get this straight You have already got some of the 20 million can and you will grind for the rest so you don't have a problem with credits saving and your only and main point is that we are getting many duplicates which is something we knew was happening since the game came out ?? wow you are unique in a very odd way...
Yep exactly. Im tired of seeing dupes all the time. It must be rigged in someway.
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Some fun facts to munch on here on turkey day ( USA thanksgiving ):
I have 230 days logged , so 230 wheel spins
I have 285 gift cars , so 55 would be from getting gold in all the various events and birthday cars(2)
There are 70 cars in the game worth 1 million or more credits, I've been gifted 42 of those
I've been gifted three 20 mill cars , 2 from wheel , 1 birthday
I have purchased 180 cars, currently have 129 ,sold 51
My breakdown of gifted cars by group:
Gr 1 - 9 + 1 dupe
Gr 2 - 0
Gr 3 - 27 + 22 dupes
Gr 4 - 19 + 12 dupes
Gr B - 7 + 6 dupes
Gr X - 30 + 15 dupes
N 1000 - 1
N 900 - 1
N 800 - 3
N 700 - 5 + 1 dupe
N 600 - 10 + 5 dupes
N 500 - 21 + 9 dupes
N 400 - 14 + 11 dupes
N 300 - 16 + 15 dupes
N 200 - 17 + 8 dupes
N 100 - 7 + 3 dupes
The number on the left is all the single gifted cars (187 ) + 108 dupes = 295 , so I'm assuming i deleted 10 gifted cars along time ago.
Although the above isn't 100% accurate because of the few N cars that I've powered up which changes there category but it wouldn't be many, less than 10 I'd say, so It's quite close to correct.
The only thing that really sticks out to me there is that out of 285 gifted cars I've never been gifted a Gr 2 car.
Go into your garage , click sort , click by date acquired , although it does not show actual dates , it does show the exact order of all your cars acquired, kind of interesting to look at.
As for the whole rigged thing, to force people to grind, no.
I play another game that has bosses you can kill and the rare item that everyone wants has a 1 % drop rate , so you figure if you do it 100 times it's bound to drop for you, nope. That's how it goes, I know for a fact that people have done it 100- 500 times, no drop and i know people that have done it less than 10 times and it's dropped, is it fair , maybe not but that's how it goes.
Same thing here, to me it's a two stage process, Stage one, you have see the 20 mill car in your wheel, stage two, ,you have a 25% chance , that's it.
Consider how many people are doing the daily wheel spin every day, is it a million , that would be over 40,000 spins an hour on average, at 500,000 , it's over 20,000 spins per hour, even if it's only 250,000, that's still over 10,000 per hour and you have 1 shot to see a 20 mill car and then still you have a 1 in 4 chance.
And then consider people like me who own every car , my daily car is always a dupe, I'm still winning million+
credit cars and i'm still seeing plenty of the 20 mill cars, whatever happens, happens, that's it.
Gobble Gobble.
I have 230 days logged , so 230 wheel spins
I have 285 gift cars , so 55 would be from getting gold in all the various events and birthday cars(2)
There are 70 cars in the game worth 1 million or more credits, I've been gifted 42 of those
I've been gifted three 20 mill cars , 2 from wheel , 1 birthday
I have purchased 180 cars, currently have 129 ,sold 51
My breakdown of gifted cars by group:
Gr 1 - 9 + 1 dupe
Gr 2 - 0
Gr 3 - 27 + 22 dupes
Gr 4 - 19 + 12 dupes
Gr B - 7 + 6 dupes
Gr X - 30 + 15 dupes
N 1000 - 1
N 900 - 1
N 800 - 3
N 700 - 5 + 1 dupe
N 600 - 10 + 5 dupes
N 500 - 21 + 9 dupes
N 400 - 14 + 11 dupes
N 300 - 16 + 15 dupes
N 200 - 17 + 8 dupes
N 100 - 7 + 3 dupes
The number on the left is all the single gifted cars (187 ) + 108 dupes = 295 , so I'm assuming i deleted 10 gifted cars along time ago.
Although the above isn't 100% accurate because of the few N cars that I've powered up which changes there category but it wouldn't be many, less than 10 I'd say, so It's quite close to correct.
The only thing that really sticks out to me there is that out of 285 gifted cars I've never been gifted a Gr 2 car.
Go into your garage , click sort , click by date acquired , although it does not show actual dates , it does show the exact order of all your cars acquired, kind of interesting to look at.
As for the whole rigged thing, to force people to grind, no.
I play another game that has bosses you can kill and the rare item that everyone wants has a 1 % drop rate , so you figure if you do it 100 times it's bound to drop for you, nope. That's how it goes, I know for a fact that people have done it 100- 500 times, no drop and i know people that have done it less than 10 times and it's dropped, is it fair , maybe not but that's how it goes.
Same thing here, to me it's a two stage process, Stage one, you have see the 20 mill car in your wheel, stage two, ,you have a 25% chance , that's it.
Consider how many people are doing the daily wheel spin every day, is it a million , that would be over 40,000 spins an hour on average, at 500,000 , it's over 20,000 spins per hour, even if it's only 250,000, that's still over 10,000 per hour and you have 1 shot to see a 20 mill car and then still you have a 1 in 4 chance.
And then consider people like me who own every car , my daily car is always a dupe, I'm still winning million+
credit cars and i'm still seeing plenty of the 20 mill cars, whatever happens, happens, that's it.
Gobble Gobble.
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- Eleven-Seven
Some fun facts to munch on here on turkey day ( USA thanksgiving ):
I have 230 days logged , so 230 wheel spins
I have 285 gift cars , so 55 would be from getting gold in all the various events and birthday cars(2)
There are 70 cars in the game worth 1 million or more credits, I've been gifted 42 of those
I've been gifted three 20 mill cars , 2 from wheel , 1 birthday
I have purchased 180 cars, currently have 129 ,sold 51
My breakdown of gifted cars by group:
Gr 1 - 9 + 1 dupe
Gr 2 - 0
Gr 3 - 27 + 22 dupes
Gr 4 - 19 + 12 dupes
Gr B - 7 + 6 dupes
Gr X - 30 + 15 dupes
N 1000 - 1
N 900 - 1
N 800 - 3
N 700 - 5 + 1 dupe
N 600 - 10 + 5 dupes
N 500 - 21 + 9 dupes
N 400 - 14 + 11 dupes
N 300 - 16 + 15 dupes
N 200 - 17 + 8 dupes
N 100 - 7 + 3 dupes
The number on the left is all the single gifted cars (187 ) + 108 dupes = 295 , so I'm assuming i deleted 10 gifted cars along time ago.
Although the above isn't 100% accurate because of the few N cars that I've powered up which changes there category but it wouldn't be many, less than 10 I'd say, so It's quite close to correct.
The only thing that really sticks out to me there is that out of 285 gifted cars I've never been gifted a Gr 2 car.
Go into your garage , click sort , click by date acquired , although it does not show actual dates , it does show the exact order of all your cars acquired, kind of interesting to look at.
As for the whole rigged thing, to force people to grind, no.
I play another game that has bosses you can kill and the rare item that everyone wants has a 1 % drop rate , so you figure if you do it 100 times it's bound to drop for you, nope. That's how it goes, I know for a fact that people have done it 100- 500 times, no drop and i know people that have done it less than 10 times and it's dropped, is it fair , maybe not but that's how it goes.
Same thing here, to me it's a two stage process, Stage one, you have see the 20 mill car in your wheel, stage two, ,you have a 25% chance , that's it.
Consider how many people are doing the daily wheel spin every day, is it a million , that would be over 40,000 spins an hour on average, at 500,000 , it's over 20,000 spins per hour, even if it's only 250,000, that's still over 10,000 per hour and you have 1 shot to see a 20 mill car and then still you have a 1 in 4 chance.
And then consider people like me who own every car , my daily car is always a dupe, I'm still winning million+
credit cars and i'm still seeing plenty of the 20 mill cars, whatever happens, happens, that's it.
Gobble Gobble.
Fantastic analysis.
It won't be good enough
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