Daytona 24 Minute Race: Daytona Road Course

How quickly does the KERS regenerate? Are you able to use it for most every lap or just a few times for the whole race?

It fully recharges under breaking and doesn't last very long. I think about 2 seconds (could be 1.5) after every slow corner. Fastest lap was 1:33.9xx but think I avaraged 1:37.xxx. Hardest part for me is keeping the car stable in the first cornen, after that the car is so easy to drive. I ever had to check if tracking control was really of the first time I tried it. Thats how easy it is to control on softs. It really is about avoiding the idiot AI.
 
I tried the BMW V12 LMR for a second time and this time with a few seconds left in the race and in first place I could not stop in time so I had to do one more lap and at the end of the race all the other race cars where a lap down and the last two race cars two laps down. Has anybody had this happened to them?
 
I tried the BMW V12 LMR for a second time and this time with a few seconds left in the race and in first place I could not stop in time so I had to do one more lap and at the end of the race all the other race cars where a lap down and the last two race cars two laps down. Has anybody had this happened to them?
I have. But I didn't know it at the time. I crossed the line before the 24 hour mark and the rest of the field crossed it after. So their race was over and I won when I crossed the line. I had wondered what might the game do if I just parked the car. Does the race go on forever?
 
I tried the BMW V12 LMR for a second time and this time with a few seconds left in the race and in first place I could not stop in time so I had to do one more lap and at the end of the race all the other race cars where a lap down and the last two race cars two laps down. Has anybody had this happened to them?
Happened to me last night. Went 15 laps in the Jag (HaB tune, RHs at 5-6 & 8-9) for the win, the 2ed place Pes. was about 8 seconds behind me, but that final board showed it as a lap down. Weird.
 
You will not believe this...

On my second try (messed up first start), I got second place...

whilst driving a...

...

...wait for it...

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...a DeltaWing.


Honestly one of the best cars in the game for the 24 minute races.
 
You will not believe this...

On my second try (messed up first start), I got second place...

whilst driving a...

...

...wait for it...

...

Delta-Wing-Sebring-AS.jpg


...a DeltaWing.

I couldn't do it in the Deltawing, even with Praiano's super stable tune. 1:40/1:39s seemed to be my best in it and even without the need to pit I couldn't drive it to be fast enough for a win.
 
I have. But I didn't know it at the time. I crossed the line before the 24 hour mark and the rest of the field crossed it after. So their race was over and I won when I crossed the line. I had wondered what might the game do if I just parked the car. Does the race go on forever?
Great question??? I think the game end when some other race car pass the start/finish line.
 
Finally won this race with the 787B stealth using priano's tune...thank buddy for sharing the tune...much easier car to drive than the C60 I was using at first...caught back up to and passed the rabbit just before finish line...fun race gotta run this one again right now while the iron is hot :gtpflag::cheers:
 
For some reason, I have incredible difficulty reading this track in the dark with its floodlighting. It just messes with my head. All the landmarks and visual clues I pick up are just useless when nighttime rolls around and the entire track is bathed in ultra-bright splotches of solar corona interspersed with black hole event horizons. Geez, ISC, would it kill ya to get a couple o' chevrons up in the place??

Perhaps I'll have another crack at it with the TV right in my face.
 
I have. But I didn't know it at the time. I crossed the line before the 24 hour mark and the rest of the field crossed it after. So their race was over and I won when I crossed the line. I had wondered what might the game do if I just parked the car. Does the race go on forever?

I would think the second place car would eventually come around and pass for the lead.
 
Few times. Though I haven't photographed em all, but here's two.

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I am very glad you responded as there are some people on this forum that want proof. It has actually happened several other times to me but never had the camera at the ready. Even if I were to post the video as I do all the time the replay does not give you the finishing order screen. The GT6 guys should make that part of the ending of the race on replay. Thank you!! If you make a statement on this forum I don’t need any proof as if you are not being truthful you are only fooling yourself and at the end of the day you have to live with that.
 
I would think the second place car would eventually come around and pass for the lead.

The race is officially over for them. I will try again right now and park it afterwards. Might be hard to tell if second place is done or not though. I'll have to let him catch me, then check his pace I guess.
 
The race is officially over for them. I will try again right now and park it afterwards. Might be hard to tell if second place is done or not though. I'll have to let him catch me, then check his pace I guess.

Like you say, the race should be over for the other drivers if they didn't make it to the Finish line before the 24 minute mark is reached. Therefore the other AI should continue to circulate the track at 50mph.

If you park your car, they should all come past you at 50mph.

And they will keep circulating the track waiting for you to finish your last lap

This has been my experience during other "timed" races like this in GT6, so its what I would expect to see in this race.

Respectfully,
GTsail
 
I watched 17 minutes of your run. Nice driving, with a DS3 too, I think. I noticed you lost quite a few seconds in the pits after fuel and tires just sitting there until released. This is a "silent" penalty from entering the pits at over the 50 mph speed limit. Ask me how I know about this!! LOL. Anyway, you could have picked up quite a few seconds and places by slowing down just before the pit lane radar. On pit stop 2, you entered the pit lane sideways?!?! Ha Ha! But they didn't actually penalize you that much on that one. Maybe sideways scrubbed off the speed faster!
Thanks for the post, very educational.
Cheers, Pete

17 minutes? That's a lot! Thanks for watching! Yes, I am a DS3-user. The pitstop in GT6 is one of its bugged areas. You can enter it sideways or backwards, that doesn't matter. Also, you go through the other cars and do not actually hit them when parking to the pit crew. But thanks for the tip. I have actually never done an endurance race on that track before. Even with that "silent" penalty, the run was good enough. But yes, it could have been done better.
 
17 minutes? That's a lot! Thanks for watching! Yes, I am a DS3-user. The pitstop in GT6 is one of its bugged areas. You can enter it sideways or backwards, that doesn't matter. Also, you go through the other cars and do not actually hit them when parking to the pit crew. But thanks for the tip. I have actually never done an endurance race on that track before. Even with that "silent" penalty, the run was good enough. But yes, it could have been done better.
Which setup did you used for the R89C? It seems very reactive and stable!
 
I have more pictures if you need proof. :sly:

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Instead of letting him catch up, I decided to hammer down the entire race. Then I watched their icons on the map and all their pace became the same so I parked it at the finish line til everyone went around me.


By the way, Peugeot 905 FLIES! It's also one of the easiest on gas and tires. My favorite usually, and again here at this event.
 
Well, I tried this one out the other night with the Pescarolo C60 Hybride. Managed to get 7th, and I had to pit several times for tires; I'm horrible with keeping them in check, I'm sure using the DS3 doesn't. Anybody know of a tune that would help me out by any chance and what LMP would work best?
 
Which setup did you used for the R89C? It seems very reactive and stable!

I have just changed the drivetrain settings to 35/50/25, and set the chamber angle on the suspension settings to 0.0 / 0.0. No tubro upgrades installed. Also set the downforce to max (600/850)
 
I have just changed the drivetrain settings to 35/50/25, and set the chamber angle on the suspension settings to 0.0 / 0.0. No tubro upgrades installed. Also set the downforce to max (600/850)
Thank you! She is in my cart, but i have some other buys to do before :lol:
 
I tried doing it with the Viper Team Oreca and the Zonda R... i give up :( It wasnt hard with the Sauber and GT-One but with these two, sheesh.

The Zonda R is way too much tail-happy for a car with that much downforce, that's my only issue. Once i get on Lap 3 with it as soon as i tilt the wheel he's gone! Tried RM's, RH's to no avail. If anyone can give me tips on how to make it less oversteer-y i'm all ears!

With the Viper it seems possible though. I can't pull 1:30's like i did with the Sauber but the car corners well, has decent acceleration and top speed. If i had any more practise with it (i literally just bought it for this race :lol:) i might have been able to do it. I guess i'll try again later.
 
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Gave it another shot with the Mercedes C9; improved to second. Ran Racing Hards for most of the race, then the final stop I switched to softs. Think next time I'll either run all hards or mediums on the last stint, since my right rear was literally shot in NASCAR three and four. For some reason though, the 787B I was following wasn't going much more than 50 MPH to the line, so somehow I managed to sneak by at the last second and get third. Allmost there, just need to pick up about seven seconds at the end and I'll be done.
 
Almost did it with the Mazda Furai. Finished 4th about 10 seconds behind. Would have been right near the top if it wasn't for AI pushing me into the wall on lap 3 at turn 1 and I ended up on the roof.
Went Racing soft and pitted at the end of lap 8. Lap 8, my tires were pretty bad, but I wanted to be able to have a solid 6 laps to finish. Might give it another go.
 
For anyone struggling with this event, grab yourself a Peugeot 905B Evo 1. Add Praiano's tune less the oil change and low RPM turbo. One stop at about the 13 minute mark. Run racing hard tires. This car gets great fuel milage even if you have to run an extra lap. Had about 1/4 tank left. 200 kg less weight than the other LM cars. Handling is awesome.
 
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Started off in a stock Oreca Viper the #91 2000 Daytona 24 hour winner thinking it might win through stupid AI pitting like at Spa but then quickly realised even with all the tuning parts it was miles off the pace. Plus the tyre wear was truely dreadful with RH rears and RM front toast by lap 4!

Changed to a stock Audi R18 with the downforce set as low as it can go and RS tyres. Car seems fine with minimum downforce but still lacks a punch coming out the corners but that's to be expected with only 530ish horse power. On the flip side this meant the car was very frugal on its tyres on fuel and I was able to one stop just about and a fill of just 50 litres was needed.

Unfortunately it wasn't quite quick enough in the end, once all the pit stops had been done by the AI I found myself around 10 seconds behind the two Pescarolos (hybrid and Peugeot). I had a massive bit of luck in that the quicker hybrid spun, moving me up to second and reducing the gap to around 3 and a half seconds. But the gap grew again by around 2 seconds over 2-3 laps and then on the last lap my tyres were gone I spun a few times and finished 4th in the end...

Still think it might be just possible to win the race in the stock R18 so I'll be trying some different setups tomorrow. Has anyone else managed to do it in the stock R18 yet?
 
DS3 novice here. After about 20 tries, I quit most in the first 3 laps. Finished lower than 5th every time. Then finally...

TCS: 4 (doesn't need any more than that with SRF)
Active Steering: No
ASM: No
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): On [like GTR at Sierra, there to help with rain, here to help with extreme tyre wear?]
Steering sensitivity: 5

Bentley EXP Speed 8 2003
Oil change
Chassis reinforcement
@Highlandor tune for Bentley with suspension (ii) and a few alterations.
Geared for 350km/h in the slipstream. Will cross 330km/h by itself eventually. You can set for more top speed than this but it would just make me crash into cars and barriers when passing at the end of banked sections.

Changes
Damper extension: 4 2 [think I got this wrong by mistake, lol]
Toe: -0.10 -0.20 [less twitchy]
Brakes: 5 4 [original is 4 5 but this makes turn 1 entry almost impossible!]
LSD: 7 15 7 [TS030 and other LMP tunes have values like this, works for me]

Gearing
[Tranny trick but can't remember what parts I had installed when I did it. Final gear was a large number before changing Max Speed.]
1: 2.975 [help AI pull out of pits]
2: 1.575 [change down to this while entering hairpins but short-shift to 3rd for max torque after the apex]
3: 1.275
4: 1.050
5: 0.875
6: 0.750
Changed up just as it got into the red from 3rd to 6th. Bogs down in 5th if you let it rev any higher. Even earlier changes might be better?
350km/h is rev limiter in 6th. You'll barely get over 330km/h outside of tow.

Power
790bhp straight line for last 30% of rev range.
122kgfm in the middle, halving at an even gradient by max revs.
Limiter: 73.2%
Turbo: High RPM Range Turbo Kit

Body
Full downforce.

Strategy

Go very easy into any turn you often crash at.
For me, this means take an inside-inside-inside line at the turn 1 hairpin. Keep off the banking and brake straight, while still on the oval course. Ease the brake and turn only gently. Coast all the way to the apex, then throttle.
If you also have a 'bogey turn' just brake early and coast through it!

Start
Tyres: Racing Medium

Pit 1

End of lap 5. 8:20 into race as I crossed start/finish line.
Types: Racing Medium
Fuel: 45 litres [random amount, a bit longer than the tyre change]
Track position going in: 1st by less than 10 seconds.
Track position going out: 6th, rammed by TS020 but it was square into the gearbox. No penalty and no skid - lucky.
Rear right tyre was at 2 so I took it very easy with the steering exiting left onto the final 2 sections of banking.
Think I had just over 30% fuel remaining.
Didn't take the proper pit exit because it looks ultra narrow, approaching from a bad angle and control is handed over without notice and too late to use it.

Pescarolo pitted end of lap 8, I was about 2 seconds behind. Phew, turn 1 would have been hectic!

Probably best to stay behind until the straight between hairpins towards the end of infield if you catch on main straight?

Mistake!
Start lap 10 I think about updating the highlights. BAD IDEA! Lose focus into the right-handed hairpin. Brake 10m too late, go 30m into the grass! Slither back to track.
Rejoin at 15:10 into race. Was 37 seconds in the lead.
By the back oval section I'm 31 seconds ahead. That tiny mistake cost 6 seconds!
You have to drive careful here!
It's counter-intuitive but mistakes cost BIG.

Out of fuel!
Coming to end of lap 10, see rear right tyre and front right tyre on 3.
I've used the tyres better this time, probably thanks to running in clear track.
Had already spotted fuel was in the red but it finishes as I exit the final banking which leads to pit entry!
Time is 16:20 into the race. Time for 2nd stop!
Fuel: 50 litres is what I'll do at Pit 1 next time.

Pit 2
End of lap 10. Sorry missed time, would have been about 16:35 as I crossed line.
Tyres: Racing Medium
Fuel: 80 litres [20 + 45 = 65 after Pit 1 but needed 70. Refill with that plus 10 more to be safe]

2nd place
Lap: 11 approaching bus stop chicane.
I'm just over 5 seconds behind the leader.
The sun rose at the start of this lap 11.

Mistake!
I'm gaining massively on the leader. Then, inevitably, throw it away at the exit of the 2nd left hairpin!
Went onto the yellow kerb, slipped off it and span the car. Rookie error, especially in an endurance race.
Keep focus and don't use all the track limits. Silly Ben!
11 seconds behind as I get onto the banking again.

1st place!
Lap: 13. Time is about 21:30 into the race.
I don't see it happen but at the split exiting onto the main straight bus stop chicane, I'm 30 seconds ahead!

Traffic
Catch up to a Peugeot 908 and an Audi R8.
Try to coast in the tow to save fuel...nearly crash entering the bus stop chicane! Skip between kerb and barrier...and breathe again.
23:00 into the race. 32 seconds ahead.
OK, just keep it simple I think.

Crash!
Lap: 15, time is 23:30 into the race
Jaguar XJR-9 slides wide at the end of wiggly exit of turn 1. Spins back across the track into the side of me.
Guess what? 5 seconds ramming penalty! At least it's a hairpin...
I should have brake, let it spear across the track, then continued. Like a real race.

Time Up - Mistake!
Flashing red catches my attention as I brake into final left hairpin. Run wide but just barely stay on the tarmac.
Glance across - all tyres are at 3! Except rear left, which is at 5.

Fuel enters red
Lap: 15, exiting bus stop chicane. Time is 24:30 into the race.
Probably only needed fuel 70 to 75 litres at pit 2, the maths would indicate.

Win by 35 seconds!
Time split at the line is -30.something seconds. :)
1) Bentley Speed 8 '03 [me]
2) Pescarolo C60 Hybride - Judd '05
3) Bentley Speed 8 '03 [team-mate Bob]
4) Courage - Judd GV5 '04
5) 908KDi FAP - Team Peugeot To...

Patience is a virtue. So is perseverance!
 
I did the race with the 2J and the rears were fine. I even only stopped once and it was the fronts then went first. I didn't do anything drastic like setting the rear brakes to zero. One thing I notice in GT6 is most cars, race cars in particular, have an unusual amount of rear toe. I usually tone it down to 0.25 deg and zero out the front and rear camber. Not sure if GT6 models tire wear due to camber/toe but no harm giving that a try.

My problem with the rear-right tire was with the Mercedes C9 and Mazda 787B, not with the 2J. (Reason I didn't finish the race with the 2J was because it was way to understeery, especially when it would slide to the outside barrier on the oval. I was also just too lazy to try and modify it.)

I tried someone's tune for the 787B, and the old tune I had on it had quite a lot of brake bias toward the rear. Won my first attempt with the new tune.
 
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