Daytona 24 Minute Race: Daytona Road Course

2 additional bits.

1. If you're running the 787B with the Praiano tune, you can use a 1-pit strategy (on lap 7).

2. Has anyone else had big blocks of the track just disappear while you were driving? I was looking down into space, and it was damn cool honestly, like I was back in Skate Heaven from Tony Hawk Pro Skater II!!!!

Have had the track missing a few times. The first time it happened I couldn't see where I was going. It was pretty awesome to see the sky below the track on the long banked turn.
 
Came in first with a stock Mazda 787B Stealth on Racing Hards. Only pitted once on lap 7, twelve minutes into the race. It started to rain on lap 8 but it didn't even last a whole lap. Weird.

On the last lap, I was far ahead enough to slow down some so I could preserve my tires and remaining fuel. The 787B Stealth is more than good enough for this event.
 
Anyone win with the Toyota T030 or the Audi R18 without power upgrades?
Those would be impressive victories.
An ego crushing last place with both. Just too slow for a one stop strategy, or whatever. Real good on gas and tires though. I got rammed from behind a lot, too. That was kinda BS.
 
An ego crushing last place with both. Just too slow for a one stop strategy, or whatever. Real good on gas and tires though. I got rammed from behind a lot, too. That was kinda BS.
I think it might be possible with the R18 and a perfect race. I managed 4th with it, about 40 seconds off. But I had 20-30 seconds worth of errors. The pit strategy would have to be perfect as well as I took about 5 seconds worth of fuel which was unnecessary.
 
I'm guessing they added this to coincide with ROLEX 24 AT DAYTONA Hopefully they do something similar for the Daytona 500 NASCAR race in February.
I have given up on that idea a while ago. Why couldn't we even just get a time trial at each oval with a NASCAR? And during the Indy 500 give us a TT for Formula GT's at Indy Speedway. Why must they neglect American Oval racing when it come down to seasonal events TT's?
 
I have given up on that idea a while ago. Why couldn't we even just get a time trial at each oval with a NASCAR? And during the Indy 500 give us a TT for Formula GT's at Indy Speedway. Why must they neglect American Oval racing when it come down to seasonal events TT's?

There is an open to the public club doing a Daytona TT right now. I think the name is 'Daytona NASCAR fast lap', the current fast lap is 43.8.
 
This doesn't make sense. I've done several attempts on this, with so many people saying "this is sooooo easy", yet I still screw up royally after having tried the 787B, the C9, and the 2J. Particularly on the two LMP cars on RH tires, I have to pit every 3 or 4 laps because of the stinking rear-right tire is down to 3. I don't gun it on corner exits, yet people seem to be able to make these tires last 6 or 7 laps. I don't get it, I'm usually really good on these kinds of races, but this event likes trying my patience.

I suppose it's par for the course though. There have been "easy" events that I had lots of trouble with, and there have been events that everyone was saying everything short of "it's impossible" and I managed to win them with no problem.

I'll just have to cool off I guess. I don't think I'd be nearly as frustrated if other people were having the same troubles as I was, but I'm obviously having problems that other people aren't.
 
Turn the rear brakes to 0. Try 2 in front. Can try lower LSD acceleration number, too.

If front tires are then wearing much quicker than rears, bump the rear brake up to 1 or 2.
 
This doesn't make sense. I've done several attempts on this, with so many people saying "this is sooooo easy", yet I still screw up royally after having tried the 787B, the C9, and the 2J. Particularly on the two LMP cars on RH tires, I have to pit every 3 or 4 laps because of the stinking rear-right tire is down to 3. I don't gun it on corner exits, yet people seem to be able to make these tires last 6 or 7 laps. I don't get it, I'm usually really good on these kinds of races, but this event likes trying my patience.

I suppose it's par for the course though. There have been "easy" events that I had lots of trouble with, and there have been events that everyone was saying everything short of "it's impossible" and I managed to win them with no problem.

I'll just have to cool off I guess. I don't think I'd be nearly as frustrated if other people were having the same troubles as I was, but I'm obviously having problems that other people aren't.

Here:

Pit strategy is everything indeed. I'm gonna try out a Zonda R soon and see how i'll fare. Here's my next attempt except now i did it with a GT-One.

I guess i didn't do as good as i did with the Sauber but it was probably cause i had more experience with the Merc than with this (managed 17 full laps with the Merc and 16 with the GT-One) and i did an extra lap with the GT-One and not with the Merc. (There's a reason for that, i had to do an emergency pit with the Merc because i was running out of Fuel :lol: so i pitted 3 times with the Merc and twice with the GT-One.)

Here's a strategy to everyone if you're trying hard but fail to succeed.

-Use RM's
-Pit 2 times in the whole race. Lap 5 to Lap 6 and Lap 11 to Lap 12 OR Lap 12 to Lap 13 (your choice but beware of your tyre wear!). ALWAYS REFILL YOUR TANK! You'll stay in the pit no matter how much you fill your tank (not sure if this is intended or not but that's how it is in this race).

Even if you don't try too hard you'll win easily doing this. Be careful not to screw lap in the latter laps so you don't have to start over again. Good luck!
 
Tried your guys' advice, still little change in result. Hopped back in the C9 Sauber, lowered the rear brake ratio completely to zero and the front to 2. Lowered the acceleration value on the LSD. At the end of lap 4, I had to come in because my right rear tire reached zero, (right before pit lane thankfully). Had to pit again at the end of lap 8, but the tire wore itself down to 2. Had to pit a final time around lap 12, and my car spun out completely before the pit lane and pitched itself at an odd enough angle that it didn't even bother taking me to my pit to change my tires (mind you, this is with less than 3 minutes to go in the race). At this point, I've already dropped down to 14th place, and limping around the track with an effectively "blown" right rear tire, I just exited out of the race.

I understand that given the counter-clockwise nature of the track, the fact that half of it is a high speed oval, and the fact that the car high-powered and RWD that the right-rear tire would probably take the brunt of the wear. Still, I would think it wouldn't take nearly as much punishment as it seems to be doing when I drive. I don't know if I'm channeling my inner Andrea de Cesaris, or if Kaz is sneaking onto the track and poking a hole in my right rear tire, but I'm still having no luck.

Thanks for the tips though. I think they helped a little bit. Around what time/lap are people snagging the lead?
 
@ThrasherDBS. Try this set up on your 787B. I'm using the Stealth model, but it should work on the regular one.
Racing hard tires
Suspension
100 100
13.80 15.31
6 7
7 7
5 6
0.0 0.0
-0.12 0.00
Brakes
2 0
LSD
8
8
20
No power upgrades or oil change
Downforce
600 850
Ballast
9 kg
50%
Stock transmission settings.

I pit once at about the 12 minute mark. Try to keep it about 200 MPH on the main part of the track. Take your time on last lap to avoid doing an extra lap. Conserve fuel as much as possible. I win it with this strategy every race. Hope this helps.
 
@YZFrules I'll give it a shot.

Thank you for the tune!

Play-by-play: Just checked the tune I was using on my 787B. I feel really stupid. The brake ratios on that are REALLY biased toward the rear. Guess that's what happens when you just jump into a car hoping it'll work. I'm about to finish my first lap at this point and already this car is doing well with no wear at all yet.

3rd lap: All is going good so far. All tires are at nine, I'm gaining ground on the lead Pescarolo, and the other cars are being particularly klutzy.

5th lap: Just snagged the lead from another 787B. 15 minutes to go. Tires are at 7 all around.

7th lap: Hit the pits. About 12 minutes left to go. Entered the pits with about 2% of fuel left. Exit pits in 4th place.

9th lap: All three cars that passed me when I was in the pits just went into the pits themselves. Back in the lead.

11th lap: 29 seconds between me and the next car behind me. Fuel at roughly 45% capacity, with 5 and a half minutes left.

13th lap: 2 and a half minute left and there's 45 seconds between me and the next car back. My right tires are dipping into 5. Roughly 20% fuel capacity left. Debating on either pressing on, or hitting the pits really quick. Hit the pits, put on new tires, put 25 liters of fuel in the tank. Came out of the pits still in the lead by 20 seconds, and with about a minute and a half to go.

15th lap: Ten seconds in, time is up and the next car is about 26 seconds back. I can easily say I've won now. I want to give thanks to YZFrules and @praiano63 for the solution to the tire wear problem I've had!
 
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Anyone win with the Toyota T030 or the Audi R18 without power upgrades?
Those would be impressive victories.
The TS030 goes quite well.
Only 623pp but does fast enough lap times.
1 stop, RH both stints (tyres drop to 6's), 60-70 fuel needed depending if you're doing 14 or 15 laps.
Good racing at some stages when the faster cars on fresh tyres put the pressure on from behind.
Comfortable win if you run a clean race.

*Edit to add setup.
Here's what I ran if you want to try it.
G27, aids off except ABS 1

623 PP (Oil change)

Tyres
Racing Hard

Suspension
70 / 70
16.00 / 17.00
3 / 3
4 / 4
5 / 5
1.2 / 0.3
0.00 / 0.15

Brakes
5 / 4

Diff
8
12
12

Downforce
500
750

I used an unchanged La Sarthe tuned gearbox, but it still went okay.
So I doubt the gearbox is of any great significance.

It runs 1:35's -37's, so with 1 stop you're home and hosed.
 
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No, standard + oil change,

Yes, you're right, wrong stats in the dealership. Wikipedia states that "905B produced approximately 715 hp". Still, 860 hp after an oil change, that makes a huge difference :confused:

Edit: that reminds me of the Black Cars in GT4, boosted after an oil change and chassis restoration ;)
 
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@ThrasherDBS. Credit for the tune goes to Praiano. I just didn't add an oil change or the high RPM turbo for fuel saving reasons. Forgot to mention that I have TC at 1 and ABS at 1.
Good to see it worked out for you.
 
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Yes, you're right, wrong stats in the dealership. Wikipedia states that "905B produced approximately 715 hp". Still, 860 hp after an oil change, that makes a huge difference :confused:

Edit: that reminds me of the Black Cars in GT4, boosted after an oil change and chassis restoration ;)

Oh one thing, i'm italian so i use CV not HP that one is an approximate value, my car has 852 CV

sorry, i checked the conversions it has 840HP not 860 :lol:.
 
Oh one thing, i'm italian so i use CV not HP that one is an approximate value, my car has 852 CV

sorry, i checked the conversions it has 840HP not 860 :lol:.

Ok, no problem, but it's still strange. As far as I know, oil change doesn't improve the power so radically. I think the PP is improved by something around 5%. Mysterious...

Ciao!

Edit. Definitely, must be a typo in the dealership...

http://www.kudosprime.com/gt6/car_sheet.php?id=268
 
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I started this one in the Stealth 787 with @praiano63 tune. up to 7th by the 5th lap 13.8 sec. behind but started on RS so had to pit. I entered the pit on at the end of lap 5 but no menu came up and the car didn't stop and went back out on the track without a stop?:confused: Why???:banghead:

Someone explain this to me please? I even went back to Test Drive to be sure I entered the pit correctly. I did so I don't get it. Once I get an answer I believe I will start on RH since my lap times on RH vs. RS is less than 3/4 of a second. Also the 787 gulps fuel like maybe 2 MPG. I've tried the C60 and the C9, but the 787 is the car to use since that seems to be what most are using. I don't need another 1-2 million credit car.
 
Just lost the race on my last pit stop. I came in when I probably could've made it to the end, and passed the leader by the checkers. Then the stop lasted longer than I thought it would. I went from 10 secs behind the leader in 2nd to 50 secs behind the leader in 8th. :banghead:
 
I started this one in the Stealth 787 with @praiano63 tune. up to 7th by the 5th lap 13.8 sec. behind but started on RS so had to pit. I entered the pit on at the end of lap 5 but no menu came up and the car didn't stop and went back out on the track without a stop?:confused: Why???:banghead:

Someone explain this to me please? I even went back to Test Drive to be sure I entered the pit correctly. I did so I don't get it. Once I get an answer I believe I will start on RH since my lap times on RH vs. RS is less than 3/4 of a second. Also the 787 gulps fuel like maybe 2 MPG. I've tried the C60 and the C9, but the 787 is the car to use since that seems to be what most are using. I don't need another 1-2 million credit car.

That's very curious. The only way I could explain the pit thing is if you came in at an awkward angle or way too fast, and you already disproved that.

Maybe the game decided to bug on you at that particular point in time.
 
That's very curious. The only way I could explain the pit thing is if you came in at an awkward angle or way too fast, and you already disproved that.

Maybe the game decided to bug on you at that particular point in time.

Earlier in the thread, someone else reported that when they went through pit lane, their pit crew wasn't anywhere to be found ( at the paddock club?). Maybe this is a glitch that is being discovered.
 
  • Benz C9 691pp
Camber: 1.3/1.3
Toe: 0/0.16
Downforce: Max F/R

Pit Strat: RH 1-6, RH 7-12, RH 13-finish

15 laps in 25'08.116
Fastest: L15 1'29.897
Avg: ~1'33.xxx
  • Mazda 787B 678pp
Camber: 1.3/1.3
Toe: 0/0

Pit Strat: RH 1-7, RH 8-finish

14 laps in 24'02.383*
Fastest: L5 1'33.535
Avg: ~1'34.xxx

*Didn't think fuel would last another lap so I parked at the finish line
  • Toyota TS030 615pp
Camber: 1.3/1.3
Toe: 0/0

Pit Strat: RH 1-8, RH 9-finish

15 laps in 25'40.433
Fastest: L12 1'36.572
Avg: ~1'37.xxx

  • 2013 Deltawing 687pp
Brakes: 5/3
LSD decel: 28
Pit Strat: RM till finish

15 laps in 25'22.833
Fastest: L13 1'38.436
Avg: ~1'39.xxx

  • Audi R18 AE* 631pp
Camber: 1.3/1.3
Toe: 0/0

Pit Strat: RM 1-8, RM 9-finish

14 laps in 24'02.200
Fastest: L10 1'35.638
Avg: ~1'37.xxx

* As it stands now my AE has 20 more hp than the dealership models and the only reason I won was because the rabbit spun at the bus stop on lap 7. The race before this(not counting restarts) I had a very similiar finishing time but the rabbit did 15 laps. Anyone else have a rabbit that did 15?

If this were a TT camber would be at 0 but I was looking for more consistent speed than absolute speed. Without AI interference, laps were generally within a couple tenths.

All races were completed in drivers eye with ABS 1/TCS 0
 
Full soft the spring and shocks, leave the sway bars at 3. 0 camber, 0 toe. Turn brakes to almost nothing. I put the rear diff at 10/30/20. Full aero. Drive at 9/10ths.

I've done this with 6 cars and they are all capable, if you are.

This actually ended up working quite well (used it on the Peugeot 908) to my surprise. Only had to work on my pit strategy after that...well ok also working my driving a little....the SRF seemed to mess me up. I don't like SRF on racing cars/tires. Road cars and sports or below I can deal with it.

I kept spinning out or being rammed off by AI first or second lap before I got in to a groove. Anyway, I found pitting lap 6 and lap 11 finally gave me the opportunity to win. I unfortunately crossed the line 2 seconds before the timer ran out, so extra lap for me. Although it was a breeze at that point so it didn't hurt me.
 
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