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Why the 787B is arrived after the Speed 8 but is in 2nd placeFinished much better with the Minolta 88C-V '89, two tire stops, medium race. I've forgotten ho much fun the ol' Toyota was. It didn't rain in the middle of the session like it has before, thought that was rather odd. I would have finished faster but I deliberately slowed down my last lap so the so I wouldn't run the clock longer, plus not sure if the right rear tire could survive another lap.
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Why the 787B is arrived after the Speed 8 but is in 2nd place
Oh the R8 has beaten both... WTF?
Yeah, the penalties are driving me bonkers. Got second, can't catch first place. Their race design philosophy is utterly incomprehensible to me.
I understand your frustration. I, too, have been on the wrong end of a 5 second penalty plenty of times. However, @coryclifford is right...driving a cleaner race will eliminate all but the most unfair of penalties. But that's not what I really wanted to talk about in my reply to you...
this is an endurance race guys & gals, it's all about throttle control. I have won with the C60 HY, Bentley, Mazda, BMW V12, Audi R8 and R18, Jag XJR9 and the Sauber C9...all with RH tires and 1 stop (and the DeltaWing on 0 stops). Yes I did run out of fuel in the XJR9 and the C9, but the Jag had lapped all but P2 and the C9 the entire field so running out in NASCAR turns 3-4 it was easy to coast across for the win.How about, the AI don't ram me and then cause me to hit the wall and I get a penalty?
Thanks for the advice.I understand your frustration. I, too, have been on the wrong end of a 5 second penalty plenty of times. However, @coryclifford is right...driving a cleaner race will eliminate all but the most unfair of penalties. But that's not what I really wanted to talk about in my reply to you...
I know this race seems crazy. You said that you've been able to get 2nd place and that's great! That means that 1st place IS within your grasp. Remember that this is a 14-15 lap race and not a Time Trial. You want to set steady, consistent lap times and if you can do that, I promise you will find that checkered flag. Because of the length of the race, don't be afraid of getting on the brakes midway through the infield section and waiting until you get back onto the oval to blow past those two or three AI cars that are technically holding you up. You don't want to hit one and get a 5 second penalty, or spin out, or have to drive so herky-jerky with the wheel and slamming on the brakes that you're putting unnecessary wear on those tires. Trust me, each time those tires go down a number, controlling those wild animal cars becomes significantly harder at high speeds. Also, you'd be surprised -- waiting behind the AI cars for a few turns, before blasting past them once you get back on the oval, before the bus stop chicane really only "costs you" a few seconds, 2-3, at the most. Much better than 5 seconds a penalty might get you...plus then your car has lost all its momentum, so its really more like a 7-8 second penalty by time you get your car up to speed again.
Driving steady and smooth on Racing Hard tires should allow you to complete the race with only 2 pit stops required for a 14 or 15 lap race. I have even started the race on RH/RH and then changed into RM/RM on my 2nd pit stop. What you have to keep in mind is that you are not going to catch the rabbit (the lead AI driver) on lap two or three like you usually an in Seasonal Event A-Spec races. There is a VERY good chance you won't obtain the lead in the race until the lead AI driver decides to pit, perhaps on lap 4. And then, when YOU have to pit on lap 5 or 6, chances are not only are you going to lose the lead, but you may drop down to 5th, 6th, 7th or eve 8th....who knows? But that's just because you're all on different pit stop schedules.
I like to try and take my 2nd pit stop with around 5-6 minutes to go. As long as my tires are holding up and not forcing me to drive slowly. This way, when I exit the pits, I can either drive like a bat out of hell, if I had spin outs and penalties and need to knock a lot of time off the AI's lead...OR, I can drive nice and smooth with fresh, grippy tires and I won't have to worry about spinning out due to lost traction from my bald tires.
I probably didn't tell you anything you didn't already know. I'm just trying to get you think "back to basics". Drive smooth and steady. It's very important to lower your brake balance quite a bit to save wear on those tires. I'm rockin' (3 in the front 2 in the back). Just remember, you're going to have to start applying that brake earlier, which is actually a good thing as it forces you to slow down just a little bit.
All of this was suggestions from driving my Pescarolo C60 Hybride - Judd '05. Good luck @daisho13! I know you can do it. 👍
I'll get it, it's just the artificiality of it really drags me out of enjoying the game. I can do the distance in one stop, and I am generally only 10 seconds or so behind, it just seems that even with drastic overall time differences I am still roughly the same distance behind the winner.
I understand your frustration. I, too, have been on the wrong end of a 5 second penalty plenty of times. However, @coryclifford is right...driving a cleaner race will eliminate all but the most unfair of penalties. But that's not what I really wanted to talk about in my reply to you...
I know this race seems crazy. You said that you've been able to get 2nd place and that's great! That means that 1st place IS within your grasp. Remember that this is a 14-15 lap race and not a Time Trial. You want to set steady, consistent lap times and if you can do that, I promise you will find that checkered flag. Because of the length of the race, don't be afraid of getting on the brakes midway through the infield section and waiting until you get back onto the oval to blow past those two or three AI cars that are technically holding you up. You don't want to hit one and get a 5 second penalty, or spin out, or have to drive so herky-jerky with the wheel and slamming on the brakes that you're putting unnecessary wear on those tires. Trust me, each time those tires go down a number, controlling those wild animal cars becomes significantly harder at high speeds. Also, you'd be surprised -- waiting behind the AI cars for a few turns, before blasting past them once you get back on the oval, before the bus stop chicane really only "costs you" a few seconds, 2-3, at the most. Much better than 5 seconds a penalty might get you...plus then your car has lost all its momentum, so its really more like a 7-8 second penalty by time you get your car up to speed again.
Driving steady and smooth on Racing Hard tires should allow you to complete the race with only 2 pit stops required for a 14 or 15 lap race. I have even started the race on RH/RH and then changed into RM/RM on my 2nd pit stop. What you have to keep in mind is that you are not going to catch the rabbit (the lead AI driver) on lap two or three like you usually an in Seasonal Event A-Spec races. There is a VERY good chance you won't obtain the lead in the race until the lead AI driver decides to pit, perhaps on lap 4. And then, when YOU have to pit on lap 5 or 6, chances are not only are you going to lose the lead, but you may drop down to 5th, 6th, 7th or eve 8th....who knows? But that's just because you're all on different pit stop schedules.
I like to try and take my 2nd pit stop with around 5-6 minutes to go. As long as my tires are holding up and not forcing me to drive slowly. This way, when I exit the pits, I can either drive like a bat out of hell, if I had spin outs and penalties and need to knock a lot of time off the AI's lead...OR, I can drive nice and smooth with fresh, grippy tires and I won't have to worry about spinning out due to lost traction from my bald tires.
I probably didn't tell you anything you didn't already know. I'm just trying to get you think "back to basics". Drive smooth and steady. It's very important to lower your brake balance quite a bit to save wear on those tires. I'm rockin' (3 in the front 2 in the back). Just remember, you're going to have to start applying that brake earlier, which is actually a good thing as it forces you to slow down just a little bit.
All of this was suggestions from driving my Pescarolo C60 Hybride - Judd '05. Good luck @daisho13! I know you can do it. 👍
I used the 905B, there is no need to save tyres, just pit twice and you will win easily. (I did steady high 1:32, at 2nd pit i used RS because there was only 2:30 minutes left, and i did 1:29 twice. But that is not important, because i won by 20 seconds on 787B.)
I used the 905B, there is no need to save tyres, just pit twice and you will win easily. (I did steady high 1:32, at 2nd pit i used RS because there was only 2:30 minutes left, and i did 1:29 twice. But that is not important, because i won by 20 seconds on 787B.)
PS: i have the DS3, too
