Daytona 24 Minute Race: Daytona Road Course

[BlueArtic]

1.29 ??? I drive hard an do 1.34 but gain penalties and average 1.36 clean.

Have you got TC or ABS switched on.

I have had this in the past, not sure if its because I used CD in machine but I always seem to struggle to match any descent times apart form the online rally event last week........

Yeah, for this event i set ABS and TCS to 1, plus (not sure if this help) i have the steering sensitivity to 7 and Praiano tune, but with brakes set to 3-5.

Oh and you need to avoid penalties, i got only one when the V12 LMR tried to pass me at first corner, 5 seconds of penalty and maybe 6-7 more because i spun.

 

[iharrison9]

Yeah, for this event i set ABS and TCS to 1, plus (not sure if this help) i have the steering sensitivity to 7 and Praiano tune, but with brakes set to 3-5.

Oh and you need to avoid penalties, i got only one when the V12 LMR tried to pass me at first corner, 5 seconds of penalty and maybe 6-7 more because i spun.

I use his tune also with slight modification to brakes and Diff sensitivity, will give it another try tomorrow, notices people weren't always running against the Judds so might log out until I get a different Rabbit... I avoid all chance of contact, really makes me mad when I'm shunted from the rear, knocked of track and given 5 seconds, in real life would get out and have punch up with the stewards and other driver...........

 

[coryclifford]

Any ideas for other cars i should try the race with?

The Toyota TS030 was pretty good. One stop/RH

 

[BlueArtic]

I use his tune also with slight modification to brakes and Diff sensitivity, will give it another try tomorrow, notices people weren't always running against the Judds so might log out until I get a different Rabbit... I avoid all chance of contact, really makes me mad when I'm shunted from the rear, knocked of track and given 5 seconds, in real life would get out and have punch up with the stewards and other driver...........

Sometimes you fight with the Judd others with the 787B (because he only pit once) if you are lucky, both will make mistakes and the C60 Peugeot will be your rabbit. It's a very fun race, just need some rage at the beginning, now i'm really enjoying it, for now i won with the V12 LMR, Speed 8 and 2nd with GT-One and C60 Hybrid (needed 3 stops with her, she really eat tyres ), plus i won it 4 times with the 905B, it's still the hardest race in GT6. I would like that won't get removed the 20th.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

I think the problem is I use a DS3 so difficult to accelerate gradually and save on tyre wear...

That's why I use the right analogue stick for acceleration and L2 to brake. You can use the right stick for throttle
control. I can hold a speed like a pedal if I want and slowly accelerate if needed.

I'm surprised more people don't use the stick for throttle control, I can't do it with the analogue Trigger buttons.

 

[coryclifford]

I use both sticks. 👍

Seems rare.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

I use both sticks. 👍

Seems rare.

I can't drive using just the buttons anymore, especially not the X button. As for people who also use the D-pad? *Shudder*

The right stick feels so natural to me for throttle control, almost like a thumb pedal.

 

[cmt]

Ladies and gentlemen, on my second try i did it. View attachment 301788

Any ideas for other cars i should try the race with? I've the done the 2012 Deltawing as shown above, the C9 and the GT-One. I tried doing it with the Viper Team Oreca and the Zonda R but i failed

I had fun in a DeltaWing 2013 winning without a pit stop and have one stopped in all my other cars so far: Mazda 787B, R8 Race Car, R10 TDi, Bentley Speed 8 & 2J. Winning margins have varied between 0.183s in the R10 TDi to avoid a 15th lap and 37.903s in the 787B. The R8 & 2J said "1 lap" to 2nd place but that's only 'cos I did a 15th lap and 2nd crossed the line on their 14th lap after the 24 minutes were up. All great fun for an old (51) git like me :-). PS all with the fantastic @praiano63 tunes and zero rear brakes

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

have one stopped in all my other cars so far: Mazda 787B,

How on EARTH do you manage one stop with the 787b AND get a fast time? I need 2 stops with a FULL REFILL each time and still run out of fuel on the final lap! Do you use the stock acceleration gearing? Maybe that's one reason.

Short shifting and steady laps surely cannot save an entire 91 litres of fuel?

 

[cmt]

How on EARTH do you manage one stop with the 787b AND get a fast time? I need 2 stops with a FULL REFILL each time and still run out of fuel on the final lap! Do you use the stock acceleration gearing? Maybe that's one reason.

Short shifting and steady laps surely cannot save an entire 91 litres of fuel?

It's a 787B Stealth Model with the @praiano63 tune. Brake balance is 2 and 0 from memory. Will check the replay but am fairly sure I ran out of fuel on the 7th lap just before the pit lane so hitting the speed limit wasn't an issue and ran out again on the last lap just before the finish line

 

[crooky369]

Finally managed to lap the field using the Pescarolo Judd with Prianos tune.

My life is complete!

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

It's a 787B Stealth Model with the @praiano63 tune.

Me too! It was the first car I tried with this event and used the same tune. It is frigging fast but it kept drinking fuel
and I needed 3 stops to finish if I remember right. I will try again later and see if I can get it down to 1 stop, but I
would have to seriously reduce acceleration.

At the moment I'm trying the 908 which can do 1 stop but is slower.

 

[cmt]

It's a 787B Stealth Model with the @praiano63 tune. Brake balance is 2 and 0 from memory. Will check the replay but am fairly sure I ran out of fuel on the 7th lap just before the pit lane so hitting the speed limit wasn't an issue and ran out again on the last lap just before the finish line

It looks like it's the one replay I don't have - will race it again tomorrow and post the results. Mazda 787B Stealth Model: 691PP, 882BHP (Mid RPM Range Turbo kit), 831kg, 84kgfm torque, 0.94kg/BHP. Suspension, brakes, gearbox, diff & downforce all as @praiano63 tune. PS I usually have TCS at 1 or 2 as I'm a bit heavy with the accelerator & it helps save the tyres & maybe a bit of fuel as well.

 

[cmt]

How on EARTH do you manage one stop with the 787b AND get a fast time? I need 2 stops with a FULL REFILL each time and still run out of fuel on the final lap! Do you use the stock acceleration gearing? Maybe that's one reason.

Short shifting and steady laps surely cannot save an entire 91 litres of fuel?

I see @BlueArtic says above that the AI 787B only one stops?

 

[BlueArtic]

I see @BlueArtic says above that the AI 787B only one stops?

Yes, in every race i did, he always pitted once, two stops for Peugeot C60 and three for C60 Hybrid. All the others pit 2-3 times, but these 3 are the only ones against i ever fighted for first place. Anyway both 787B and Peugeot C60 complete the last lap with nearly finished tyres, in my first win with the 905B i started last lap with 2 seconds behind the 787B, and i won by 5. Same as my last try with V12 LMR, started last lap with 8 seconds from the Peugeot C60 and won by 1.5.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

I see @BlueArtic says above that the AI 787B only one stops?

Hmmm

I will give it another go.

 

[mustangxr]

Hmmm

I will give it another go.

I have some more fuel for the fire!! Ha Ha!
I had two races today with the C-60 Hybride Judd car, and I decided that I would run the whole race in fuel/tyre conservation mode. Just to see how far I could push this strategy.

Here is what I did; I ran race hard/race hard with one pit stop on lap 8!?!? That's right ,lap 8 boys and girls. I had one tire worn down to 4 and the rest were 5 and 6, and the fuel tank was close to empty at the end of lap 8. I managed to accomplish this by never using first gear, short shifting the car, and avoiding full throttle on the straights whenever possible by drafting. My fastest lap time was 1:33 (this car can do 1:28) and I pitted with my friend Jacques Besson on lap 8, taking 92 litters of fuel and race hards again. Jacque and I left the pits pretty much in synch as he didn't need as much fuel as I did, and I let him go by and then snuggled right up to his rear end and drafted him until he pitted on lap 12, (as usual). I checked his tires during the replay and by lap 12, his right rear was indicating 4!?!? This guy knows how to burn rubber. My tires were 7's and 8's on lap 12, and my fuel was running right on half full.

After that I was "all by myself" in first place again with all the busy pitting by the AI. It was so lonely, sob! I had hoped to be slow enough that I would not have to run lap 15, however it was not to be with the 787B pushing a bit and Biez as well so I had to keep up the pace to some degree which put me over the finish line just under the 24:00 on lap 14 and so I ran the final lap (15) and crossed the line with enough tires and fuel for another lap!! No kidding! My 15 lap race time was 25:06. I could have run 16 laps easily.

I was surprised of course to have such a relaxed race and still do well just by being frugal with resources and generous with strategies. I have decided to donate the race fuel remaining in my tank to those who may run short in the future! Or we could just throw it on the fire, HA HA!
Cheers, Pete

PS. A note here on drafting; when you are drafting, you are basically running in the vortex from the car in front. The air over and around your car is moving along just about as fast as you are. Just like a canoe in a river, coming upstream behind a big rock. You can stop paddling and just sit there in the back eddy behind the rock with no effort. Here's the thing, because there is not much airflow over your car, there is VERY LITTLE DOWNFORCE!?!? So when the guy in front hits the brakes, he has lots of downforce, and lots of stopping power, you however, DO NOT HAVE AS MUCH BRAKING POWER, so you have to be cautious when coming up on the bus stop or other corners, because he can easily out-brake you and out corner you too because of the absence of airflow and downforce. I'm sure you get the picture.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

I have some more fuel for the fire!! Ha Ha!
Here is what I did; I ran race hard/race hard with one pit stop on lap 8!?!? That's right ,lap 8 boys and girls. I had one tire worn down to 4 and the rest were 5 and 6, and the fuel tank was close to empty at the end of lap 8. I managed to accomplish this by never using first gear, short shifting the car, and avoiding full throttle on the straights whenever possible by drafting.

I managed to pit at the beginning of Lap 7 in the 787b with a small bit of fuel left so it looks like 1 stop is just about possible for the race. By short shifting and avoiding 1st gear. Never really got a chance to do much drafting or slipstreaming as I didn't race further.

I used to race like a Bat out of Hell so I guess that's why I burned through the fuel in the past.

 

[MustangManiac]

Yes, the 787B can one stop this race, I have yet to run a car that can't. I always short shift, to save the rear tires, are there any 1st gear corners on this track? I also race all cars stock, except the new Audi which is down on power, she needed a boost.

 

[skeagracing]

Cockpit race.No Penalties. Tune by me.Lapped the entire field. Fast laps of 1:32. Started on racing hard tires. Two pit stop strategy. First pit stop at the end of lap 5 taking full fuel and racing hard tires Second pit stop on lap 10 taking full fuel and racing hard tires.

 

[BlueArtic]

Cockpit race.No Penalties. Tune by me.Lapped the entire field with last race car two laps down, Fast laps of 1:32. Started on racing hard tires. Two pit stop strategy. First pit stop at the end of lap 5 taking full fuel and racing hard tires Second pit stop on lap 10 taking full fuel and racing hard tires.

Wow! I have done the same race, (2 stops, pace 1:32) but i won by 20 seconds over the 787B, and lapped only R390, XJR-9 and CLK-LM.

 

[skeagracing]

Wow! I have done the same race, (2 stops, pace 1:32) but i won by 20 seconds over the 787B, and lapped only R390, XJR-9 and CLK-LM.

Thank you for the kind words. I have run on this track many times.

 

[Xposed2Play]

Cockpit race.No Penalties. Tune by me.Lapped the entire field. Fast laps of 1:32. Started on racing hard tires. Two pit stop strategy. First pit stop at the end of lap 5 taking full fuel and racing hard tires Second pit stop on lap 10 taking full fuel and racing hard tires.

Thank you for posting that! It helps me understand the driving line better. Example: I've been jumping onto the circuit directly from the pit exit onto the first turn. Didn' t realize there is an acceleration lane to merge onto course further in the infield. Duh.

 

[N0t_L3fty]

I have gone with 2 pit stops & still run RH. Tires are still good when you pit & the less time waiting for fuel the better. Ran a bunch of different cars, won with them. Seems like a wasted effort trying to baby your tires & save fuel to avoid an extra pit stop. Drive it like you stole it...

 

[skeagracing]

I have gone with 2 pit stops & still run RH. Tires are still good when you pit & the less time waiting for fuel the better. Ran a bunch of different cars, won with them. Seems like a wasted effort trying to baby your tires & save fuel to avoid an extra pit stop. Drive it like you stole it...

Like a bat out of hell....!!!

 

[skeagracing]

Thank you for posting that! It helps me understand the driving line better. Example: I've been jumping onto the curcuit directly at the exit on the turn. Didn' t realize there is an acceleration lane to merge onto it further in the infield. Duh.

Thank you and I am sure you are not alone with this.

 

[cjr3559]

I won by driving like I owned it. Took care of my tires, managed the fuel and finished 4 seconds ahead over 15 total laps (time was 25 minutes and change, and the rest of the field was a lap down). The final lap had some tense moments with fuel, but it worked.

Race was completed with one stop, RM/RH using the Pescarolo Hybride. I made some tweaks to the settings; brakes, suspension, LSD, and downforce.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

I won it with the fantastic Peugeot 908 HDi FAP with stock settings. I ran RM tyres throughout and stopped at the end of L5 and L10. I kept required fuel to a minimum on L10 which is just as well as I won by just 1.892s.

It would have been at least 10s more had I not be shafted by an Audi R10 TDI which sent me into an endless spin until I hit the wall and was given a 5s Barrier Contact Penalty.

 

[iharrison9]

I won it with the fantastic Peugeot 908 HDi FAP with stock settings. I ran RM tyres throughout and stopped at the end of L5 and L10. I kept required fuel to a minimum on L10 which is just as well as I won by just 1.892s.

It would have been at least 10s more had I not be shafted by an Audi R10 TDI which sent me into an endless spin until I hit the wall and was given a 5s Barrier Contact Penalty.

What's your average lap time?

 

[mustangxr]

Cockpit race.No Penalties. Tune by me.Lapped the entire field. Fast laps of 1:32. Started on racing hard tires. Two pit stop strategy. First pit stop at the end of lap 5 taking full fuel and racing hard tires Second pit stop on lap 10 taking full fuel and racing hard tires.

Thanks for the video, I learned a few things from it, like little pockets of pavement that I had never noticed, and your lines through the corners were a bit different and interesting.

I particularly like the fact that the 908 has a PITOT HEAD, that little mast, just ahead of the wiper arm. Did not see the airspeed indicator although, maybe it is for moveable downforce winglets or the possibility of such articulating aerofoils on such a high speed car. Imagine the speed increase if the downforce could be modulated when exceeding over 200 mph for instance, that could give you another 10 MPH top end.

I never use the cockpit view because of the sensorial deprivation I experience. I figure that we are operating with less than half of what we would normally have IRL from the deprivation of peripheral vision, sound, feel, etc. So I run with the top of the windshield view, if only to faster identify incipient yaw preceding a spinout! I figure I need to make up the difference somehow. In a real race car, the feel is key to anticipating a slide. There is no way we can get that with our one dimensional screen and howling tires so.......

I admire those that can do what you do however.
Cheers, Pete