Did You See Anything Good Today? [Read First Post]

[Venom800tt]

Original Mini Cooper - Still on the original black number plates.

I counter your Mini with a Mini of my own!

I saw it about 2 years ago, parked behind the school I went to.

 

[1X83Z]

You're just going to have rely on the dealer's word as I obviously don't have the cash to see if he's telling the truth. The only place I've heard similar was 2 months ago on FChat by an interested buyer who was told his best bet is a used one. But all it does is supposedly put you on the list.

Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s, Ferrari dealers got in a lot of trouble when they charged above MSRP for the F40 and then, if the vehicles were lemons, had to buy them back at the price they charged under lemon laws. Huge money was lost this way, and this is why Ferrari has disallowed dealers from charging above MSRP. That's why I'd be surprised if this is accurate.

 

[McLaren]

Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s, Ferrari dealers got in a lot of trouble when they charged above MSRP for the F40 and then, if the vehicles were lemons, had to buy them back at the price they charged under lemon laws. Huge money was lost this way, and this is why Ferrari has disallowed dealers from charging above MSRP. That's why I'd be surprised if this is accurate.

Actually, and surprisingly, I read a similar deal in a magazine about owning a Ferrari, and one of the top Ferrari business men stated that getting on the list for certain Ferrari's is near impossible unless you have the money. He said a dealer can probably get you on the list at the very least, but for a hefty sum over MSRP. However, instead of reporting that Ferrari disallowed it, he said Ferrari discouraged its dealers from doing so.

EDIT* Looking at the article, another man had this to say.

Our A-plus guys (who have bought multiple cars from us) get cars at sticker price, and they get cars first. If you walk in off the street, the wait is 2 to 4 years if you don't want to pay over sticker. If you've never talked to the dealer before and you want to buy a 599 GTB for sticker, it isn't going to happen. The car is just too hot. If you're willing to throw down about $30,000 over list price, you might be able to have a car in about 6 months. Some dealers will even charge up to $120,000 over sticker. The only Ferrari that's in stock and that can easily be had for list price is the 612 Scaglietti.

This is from an anonymous Ferrari Salesperson in the US. Public Relations Manager, Matteo Sardi, was the one who only said Ferrari discouraged sticker.
So, it is apparent that dealers will and are charging over MSRP for customers to have a Ferrari despite what happened in the past.

 

[1X83Z]

I read and enjoyed that article.

The real question is, why would you pay $120,000 over list for a future build date!? $120,000 over list can get you a 599 GTB tomorrow! Someone must really want it specced the way they want it, and have very unique specs!

 

[McLaren]

I read and enjoyed that article.

The real question is, why would you pay $120,000 over list for a future build date!? $120,000 over list can get you a 599 GTB tomorrow! Someone must really want it specced the way they want it, and have very unique specs!

I'm not surprised by these deals anymore after browsing the used exotic car market. Audi R8's are selling used for well over $150K, 2007 M6's selling used from MSRP to $150K, and the 599 of course selling for anywhere from $420,000 to $560,000.

Hell, even the Ferrari 360 still sells for over $200,000 with F430's well over $310,000. These are used, and it just amazes me anyone would buy one just to surpass the waiting list.

 

[Alex.]

Thanks,I whas not sure of it.👍

See buddy that's more like it

 

[1X83Z]

Hell, even the Ferrari 360 still sells for over $200,000 with F430's well over $310,000. These are used, and it just amazes me anyone would buy one just to surpass the waiting list.

The 360 thing is what still shocks me - as you mention, '04 Spiders are still running in the $200k range - that's still above list. Mind you, list was three years ago.

And yet the 575 and 550 lose more value daily than I make in a year!

Of course, I have no income, but the point stands.

 

[Revheadnz]

Finally started taking my camera around again. Typical then that I didn't see the black 599 GTB again. Next weekend maybe.

But still got this tidy little dub.

And this bigger, pricier dub.

 

[Tangled Web]

I hear 456s aren't all that reliable. Clarkson agress.

I remember seeing that ages ago, what a crazy job. How old is that Top Gear?

 

[Rue]

I had a rather ridiculous car spotting two hours today. I will be posting pics later...

The Porsche 997 GT3 RS is available in 4 colour choices. In the space of two hours and with quite a few minutes gap between each I saw 3 out of 4. I don't know the actual production numbers for this car but this must be a pretty silly spot...

and if that wasn't enough, my first Carrera GT...

There's more coming later (hope you like Ferraris!)...

But first some Porkers...

Some 996 Turbos...

 

[Rue]

...and some 997 Turbos...

Rare colour?

This cabriolet thinks it's a GT3

So does this, but the quad exhausts give it away...

These ARE GT3's...

I saw 4 Ferrari 599 GTB's today. I find it ridiculous how many of these things I see. Gotta be pushing 15 now...

Dare I say, Ferrari's may be becoming slightly common here...

Sorry, I double posted!

 

[Tornado]

Which would you rather have - 412 or 612? Imagine each took the same chunk out of your paycheck. (not each cost the same, mind you)

Come now Doug, to have the repair costs be the same equal to the cost of the 612, it would take at least 5 years. Besides, I prefer the looks of the 412 to the 612, and probably would just pay to have the bits and pieces of some newer, more reliable Ferrari, put in.

The 550 does not have that issue chronically.

I did look, and everything I've seen implies that all three cars share the problem about as much.

 

[Serge.D]

3000 GT.First time that I saw.


Cayenne S.


Chevrolet???

Mazda 6.


VW Corrado.Nice car IMO.

 

[Danny]

Mazda2

VRX220

Continental GT....maybe.

Zafira VXR

 

[Joey D]

Why are Bently's so friggen common now? It's Michigan in winter and I saw four today without really looking all right in the same area.

The last three were next to a business so I'm guessing them might do something with Bently since it was an engineering firm.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

thats been lowered and looks amazing!

 

[Joey D]

I thought something looked different about it.

 

[G.T]

Rue, where are you when you take those pictures? In a building just spying out of a window or something?

VERY nice sightings though, especially the 599 GTBs. 👍

 

[Alex.]

I thought something looked different about it.

I thought it could have been a speed at first. Very nice car that 👍

 

[Keef]

I thought something looked different about it.

It's got different lower intakes on the front. Have GT's been facelifted or is this the Speed?

EDIT: Yup, that's a Speed. Joey has seen something that Doug hasn't! The rims and front lower intakes give it away.

 

[Joey D]

What's a speed?

 

[Danny]

The Continental GT Speed is the most powerful production Bentley ever and the first to top 200mph (322km/h). A potent addition to the company’s highly successful Continental series, the GT Speed extends the appeal of the Continental GT coupe to driving enthusiasts who place a high value on outright performance and agile handling.

The exterior style of the new Continental GT and GT Speed models is defined by a wider, lower air intake and more upright radiator grille that also provide increased airflow to the more powerful GT Speed. Its 600bhp (610PS) W12 engine develops 15 percent more torque and nine percent more power than the standard Continental GT, while engine efficiency is optimised by the use of lower friction, lighter-weight components and a new engine management system. The resultant performance is exceptional, with a top speed of 202mph (326km/h), a zero to 60mph sprint time of just 4.3 seconds (0-100km/h in 4.5s) and effortless overtaking capability.

That.

 

[Joey D]

So I take it that it's somewhat rare.

 

[Keef]

It's a new, more powerful version, the Continental GT Speed. It's got a 600hp engine compared to 552. Also, 553lb-ft of torque over 479. And new 20 inch rims and a new front bumper. Maybe some other details. A 202mph top speed and a $206,000 price, too!

Tree'd. Well of course it's rare if Doug hasn't seen one! They'll be all over the place next summer though.

 

[McLaren]

It's a new, more powerful version, the Continental GT Speed. It's got a 600hp engine compared to 552. Also, 553lb-ft of torque over 479. And new 20 inch rims and a new front bumper. Maybe some other details. A 202mph top speed and a $206,000 price, too!

Tree'd. Well of course it's rare if Doug hasn't seen one! They'll be all over the place next summer though.

Maybe. Bentley did once say they thought of making them limited, or offer them for only a couple of years.

 

[Rue]

Quote:
Originally Posted by M5Power
Not true. Very, very many of those vehicles in the States. I'd love to see 'em build them all to order!

and from wonderful wikipedia

Quote:
The CL65 AMG is made to order in very small numbers, and is the most powerful CL to date.


Saw one yesterday...

 

[Blackbird.]

Damn, Rue, that picture could be used in a Mercedes magazine ad. 👍

 

[Rue]

Thanks mate! Yes, this one came out quite well. More coming later...

 

[Gashlycrumb]

My second F355 for the week.

 

[1X83Z]

Quote:
Originally Posted by M5Power
Not true. Very, very many of those vehicles in the States. I'd love to see 'em build them all to order!

Yeah, no surprise the CL65 is built to order - I've seen but two ever.

As for the Continental GT Speed, yes, great spot - it and the Continental GT Diamond Series are the only Continental models I consider rare enough to record and specifically seek. I am yet to see a Continental GT Speed, and I do not believe they will be common. Good spot, Joey!

My sole good spot today:

DB7 3.2