Dispelling the myths about GT4 Pro GT World Championship

[phattboy]

Great write up Phattboy! Lotsa great info on a series that is calling me to re-run in something less than an R-8 When the racing mood comes back, the Ford might come out of the shack 👍

and that Partner of yours is one twisted, warped individual!! Who'd ever think of running a Lister in a series?!?

Keep up the good work, both of you!

Yo Slowpoke!!! Long time no talk to!!!

Actually, believe it or not, When I was motivated to dink around with this, I thought of you as one of the people who could win this series in the GT40:tup:

I also kept thinking if it was an FJ40 instead of a GT40 I woulda whooped it long time ago

And, in case anyone is paying attention, I am getting closer... However, right now, I'm figuring things out on the Ice Arena. That race can be a blast with the right cars:tup:

phattboy

 

[slowpoke]

Hey "pokie" how ya been? I heard you wanna run the Lister at Grand Valley "Again"...but this time for 60 Laps! ...O.G.

Like I said, twisted and warped Actually if the Lister is in the game and handles anything like it did in GT3, there's no way I'd run it at the "new" Grand Valley! The corners are just too sharp now for that overpowered land barge!

I should re-paint it white, mount some longhorns across the hood and see if I could sell it as some fancy Caddy. Any takers??

You know I'm just playin' wit ya Unk . You also know that if you call it, I'll prolly be there too. Twisted and warped, but in a good way 👍

 

[slowpoke]

Yo Slowpoke!!! Long time no talk to!!!

I also kept thinking if it was an FJ40 instead of a GT40 I woulda whooped it long time ago

And, in case anyone is paying attention, I am getting closer... However, right now, I'm figuring things out on the Ice Arena. That race can be a blast with the right cars:tup:

phattboy

Yo PhattMan Yep, it's been too long 👍

I was thinking that if you were having trouble, you must have been out of your element. Just get the FJ out and crawl over the competition!

And how is Simba?? I've still got those pics on my hd you sent. Oooo, she's so purty! My wife doesn't appreciate it, but I really like the one of her in the bikini top! It's a good thing I haven't shown her the one of Simba topless!

Hmm, the new GT40 LM at Pro World Championships eh? It's sounding more interesting all the time.......... I'll be back!

Hey, look! I finally got that "Junior Member" tag off my status. Hell, I haven't been a junior in, well, decades!! Shortly after Bob that is

 

[Sjenk]

Hmm, are you using the GT stock (except the tyres and oil refresh)? I couldn't see that in your post.

 

[boost654]

Hong Kong is still my favorite track with Opera running a close second along with Suzuka and El Capitan.

👍 Hehe, there are not many here who even remotely like Hong Kong. That and Seattle(fave since GT2) are my favourites then Opera and El Capitan.

As soon as I realised, after much practise, that mucho soft suspension was the way to go at the tight bumpy street tracks, they became instant hits with me. I prefere street tracks but cant stand Monaco.

Nice write up BTW.

 

[phattboy]

Hmm, are you using the GT stock (except the tyres and oil refresh)? I couldn't see that in your post.

Don't matter what I use, I have yet to win this series in it. Tried it everyway you can think of and so far... zilch, nit, nada...

phattboy

 

[slowpoke]

Hmm, are you using the GT stock (except the tyres and oil refresh)? I couldn't see that in your post.

Yup, same here. I ran many spot races on the 2 tracks I'm most familiar with. No matter what configuration I enter with, the best result has been third place. To get comparative laps with the leader, I need softer tires. Using softer tires I need to pit, which puts me down ~30 seconds, which is close to the final gap.

I really think the bottom line is the lesser Downforce of the GT, she just cannot take the corners at the speeds of the Top Dawgs.

One thing I found interesting tho. When I entered with no mods (NA #3?), the AI field was much weaker. The car to beat was the Toyota 7 CanAm racer. I wonder if I were to enter the series w/ no mods to establish the AI field, then add on the NA tune, would I have a chance?? But running straight up (run what ya brung), IMHO there's no way I can win the series with the GT.

But, I'm still wunderin'..........

 

[Crayola]

This series was quite easy in the Minolta (stock but tires) with only minmal tweaking. I just have 3 set-ups:
1) High-speed Bumpy track set-up (Le Sarthe and the ring)
2) Smooth Circuit setup (Tsukuba, Suzuka, Laguna Seca)
3) Bumpy track/street set-up (El Capitan, Infineon but NY & HK too).

Using these three settings and adjusting the gears and sometimes downforce pretty much any track is easy.

Also, I dont like the [R] CLK GT-R because the lack of turn-in is unbearable on any of the reasonably tight courses.

 

[Crayola]

👍 Hehe, there are not many here who even remotely like Hong Kong. That and Seattle(fave since GT2) are my favourites then Opera and El Capitan.

As soon as I realised, after much practise, that mucho soft suspension was the way to go at the tight bumpy street tracks, they became instant hits with me. I prefere street tracks but cant stand Monaco.

Nice write up BTW.

I agree, the street tracks are good fun once you get the hang of them, nothing like clipping the ripple strips before flying through the exit of corners on 2 wheels. Also, with Monaco, I suppose its true to form but its just SO hard to overtake there. (Assuming your car is evenly matched and you don't "cheat")

 

[phattboy]

...IMHO there's no way I can win the series with the GT.

But, I'm still wunderin'..........

If you can't beat it then I KNOW I can't beat it but I agree, it just seems like there oughta be a way... I could beat it in my phattmobile though

phattman

 

[phattboy]

👍 Hehe, there are not many here who even remotely like Hong Kong. That and Seattle(fave since GT2) are my favourites then Opera and El Capitan.

As soon as I realised, after much practise, that mucho soft suspension was the way to go at the tight bumpy street tracks, they became instant hits with me. I prefere street tracks but cant stand Monaco.

Nice write up BTW.

Thanks... glad to see a kindred spirit with the street courses 👍 The deal with Monaco for me was figuring out that I need to stretch my gears wwwwaaaaayyyy out and lug whatever pig I was driving around it. Once I started doing that, it actually becomes sorta fun. All different than what I normally like, but much more fun.

phattboy

 

[Jetboy.]

You know, it's kinda sad that finding a fun challenge has fallen into (once again) the racing class of vehicles. I mean, what happened to the PD cup? That was a blast, and now....it's like a free-for-all...

Oh well. Hey, O.G., phattboy, slowpoke, anyone...you guys try out the Toyota 7 in this series yet? I tried Hong Kong and got blown out of the water, partly because I suck, and partly because the car was stock.... Any takers?

 

[phattboy]

You know, it's kinda sad that finding a fun challenge has fallen into (once again) the racing class of vehicles. I mean, what happened to the PD cup? That was a blast, and now....it's like a free-for-all...

Oh well. Hey, O.G., phattboy, slowpoke, anyone...you guys try out the Toyota 7 in this series yet? I tried Hong Kong and got blown out of the water, partly because I suck, and partly because the car was stock.... Any takers?

Yup... and because I tried it I can definitively tell you it ain't cause you suck... It's cause the car sucks

phattboy

 

[Jetboy.]

Ok, thanks. I finished 4th. The Minolta--immitates a jet--gone. I was something like 1'01.xxx behind.

Which GT are you using again? Is there a real performance difference between the two?

Jetboy

 

[phattboy]

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Which GT are you using again? Is there a real performance difference between the two?

Jetboy

Spec II (The white one) and I keep getting my butt handed to me in it too... Don't know why I keep trying I'm quitting though after ole pokey said he couldn't do it either I know when to call it over... I'm slow but not stupid.

phattboy

 

[Jetboy.]

Oh well...learn anything out of the deal (besides the obvious)?



P.S.: Check out my USCC thread, added in the 1/4 mile times.

Jetboy

 

[Sjenk]

You know, it's kinda sad that finding a fun challenge has fallen into (once again) the racing class of vehicles. I mean, what happened to the PD cup? That was a blast, and now....it's like a free-for-all...

Oh well. Hey, O.G., phattboy, slowpoke, anyone...you guys try out the Toyota 7 in this series yet? I tried Hong Kong and got blown out of the water, partly because I suck, and partly because the car was stock.... Any takers?

Well, if you don't turn the TCS off, it can be done. Without? I can't tell you that, I haven't tried that yet

I did use this car for fun on the Super Speedway track and I won that one with a gap of 6 seconds between me and the Sauber

 

[phattboy]

Well, if you don't turn the TCS off, it can be done. Without? I can't tell you that, I haven't tried that yet

I did use this car for fun on the Super Speedway track and I won that one with a gap of 6 seconds between me and the Sauber

Sounds like a good race !👍 I had trouble with that car on that track... Keeping it out of the wall was a constant. Do you remember what you did to tune that out if anything?

phattboy

 

[Sjenk]

Tune? What is tuning? I did this thing stock without changing settings. Hard front, super hard rear and a bit of luck that the Sauber went off the track once. No pitstops. My laptimes were almost 1 second per lap faster than the CLK-GTR. The Toyota 7 is really nice, since it is almost 400kg lighter, which means the tyres wear off slower. Hmm, now that I say this, I think I didn't use Hard-Super Hard, but Medium-Hard, because of the tyre wear advantage.

 

[phattboy]

Tune? What is tuning? ...

I hate guys like you

Old Geezer is like that too!

... Tuning? We don't need no stinking tuning...

phattboy

 

[Zardoz]

Tune? What is tuning? I did this thing stock without changing settings.

Speaking of racing cars in stock form, I finally finished my Le Mans car test. All were tested stock:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=61921


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[hornet_burnout]

Well, I finally did it... Found a used Black Nissan R92CP, and the series was a piece of cake (like you said).

Won everything except for the Opera track. Latter came back to that one with the Nissan Motul Pitwork Race car (after practicing and seting up first) and won the race by pitting only once. The faster oponents pited a second time on the penultimate lap, I was second at the time and won that with relative ease. The car has all available upgrades (Turbo), no NOS (don't like that).

I will retry the series with it. I believe if you practice every track, set it up right and use a good tyre strategy, you can win the series in this machine.

But for now I'm concentrating on finishing the rest of the game...

Burn
GT4@56.7%

 

[Old Geezer]

Won everything except for the Opera track. Latter came back to that one with the Nissan Motul Pitwork Race car (after practicing and seting up first) and won the race by pitting only once. The faster oponents pited a second time on the penultimate lap, I was second at the time and won that with relative ease. The car has all available upgrades (Turbo), no NOS (don't like that).

I will retry the series with it. I believe if you practice every track, set it up right and use a good tyre strategy, you can win the series in this machine.

Yes, it'll beat 'em just fine! 👍

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=61239

...O.G.

 

[hornet_burnout]

Nice write-up !

As I imagined, it has some problems with high speed tracks, but handles great on the rest of them.

But now I know it's possible, I have to find another challenge . Maybe the GT40 I won there...

Burn
GT4@60.2%

 

[phattboy]

Nice write-up !

As I imagined, it has some problems with high speed tracks, but handles great on the rest of them.

But now I know it's possible, I have to find another challenge . Maybe the GT40 I won there...

Burn
GT4@60.2%

Good luck with the GT40 you won there

phattboy

 

[larrymags]

I had read a thread and in the fabric of that thread I found a statement-more an observation by the person writing it that I found interesting. He/she said basically, "Don't you find it odd that often the prize car you win from a series wouldn't even be able to compete in the series you won it from?" The writer went on to point out the example of the Ford GT you win from the Pro GT World Championship.

Hey! That was me! Hahahaha! Case in point.... The prize car for winning the American GT Championship (which I used the Ford GT LM in) is.........

a 1954 Chevy Corvette Convertible.....

 

[phattboy]

Hey! That was me! Hahahaha! Case in point.... The prize car for winning the American GT Championship (which I used the Ford GT LM in) is.........

a 1954 Chevy Corvette Convertible.....

👍 See!!! I didn't imagine it. I swear I went looking for that thread/statement to reference it but couldn't for the life of me find it/who.

Good to know I wasn't dreaming and glad to know who said it. Good point bud! Got me busy on a lot of testing/playing around 👍 Thanks

phattboy

 

[iline]

.... Hey, at least you weren't like me and didn't go around looking for an Altezza in the used car lot instead of looking at what cars are allowed in the race first...
.

Er, that's what I was doing for more than 2 hours last night.

 

[phattboy]

Er, that's what I was doing for more than 2 hours last night.

Doh! I hate it when that happens

phattboy

 

[Ishar]

This is cool.

But is someone not liking the 54 Corvette? I love that car, I kicked some serious butt in the Corvette Series with it. The 2000 models just couldnt keep up (well, on the straights they blew me away) but I was easily winning by half a lap with the 54 Corvette.

I think I will see this Ford GT thing. I mean, I wont race it, but I will see wha my B-spec driver can do. He has done the impossible, he won the FGTC with my FGT, winning 10/15 and me quitting out of the other 5. Time to go back and win those. And, no, I couldnt race it myself, I havent got my S license yet (*sniffle*).