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It won't tell you unless it's a challenge. You'll have to keep going back to them if you want to make sure you're still the best!
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- Thread starter Waheed
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It won't tell you unless it's a challenge. You'll have to keep going back to them if you want to make sure you're still the best!
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I wonder how much time kie spends keeping track of his many many many #1s 
still would be nice if EVO did some notifications for losing places in the top 10 at least!
still would be nice if EVO did some notifications for losing places in the top 10 at least!
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- Mcpartyman
I don't think there is any kind of tracking, or at least none that I'm aware of. I do sometimes wonder though, I've broken records that have stood for quite a while and then within a week they get them back!! It happened with death racer a few weeks back and he has far too many records to keep checking them all!!
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- Mcpartyman
It's probably a toss up between him and eb4tiky for who's overall best. I think eb4 shades it. Kie uses a wheel and bumper cam whereas tiky uses the ds4 and chase cam. I am nowhere near their standard, I just have a few tracks I'm good at because I've practiced them enough. I must do some more of that wet weather stuff, it was great fun sliding around!!I see him on every leaderboard I attempt! He is one fast driver (Is he the one that uses the wheel?) I also see your name quite a few times in the top 5 Mr McPartyman
. I already explained why. Ferrari lost a lot of prestige with that car.
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Anyway, I've noticed on the lower class levels, there are drift point trials. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to do these in a MINI, but I'm gonna damn well try!
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- stigsdaddy
Yeah the 288GTO and F40 were such boring cars... It's pretty bad Ferrari built those horrible rot boxes hey?
Ferrari isn't following a trend. They used Turbocharging to increase the power of their V8 without making it heaps bigger. The turbocharged engine also has tons more torque than the NA engines, and this is only possible because of the turbo.
Turbo cars are far from boring to drive. Of all the cars I've driven, the NAs are the most boring.
Saying turbocharging is the boring way to make power is daft, it's like slamming a car maker for building fuel injected engines, and saying they should stick to carburetors.
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Uhhh O.O' *Looks both ways* Excluding the classic Ferraris, those things are fine and get a free pass.
Anyway, I've noticed on the lower class levels, there are drift point trials. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to do these in a MINI, but I'm gonna damn well try!
Edit: On second thought I take back what I said. >.<'
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- stigsdaddy
Let's not forget that Torque is the really important figure for an engine, not power. Highly strung NA engines all lack torque. They sacrifice torque for power at high rpm. That leads to them being gutless in the low and mid rpm ranges, and having tiny power bands, high in the rpm range. Look at F1 for a great example of that, the 18,000 rpm V8s with around 750hp had around the same torque as a 4 cylinder Kia van... Turbocharging increases torque a lot more than it does power, which is why turbocharged cars always belt the living daylights out of NA cars.
Forget power, torque is what you want!
Forget power, torque is what you want!
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- Paul2007
Saying that using turbo-charging is an easy and boring method of making more power is nonsensical. Ferrari cannot be seen to fall behind it's rivals in the power race so it must keep up with McLaren in this case. Lamborghini is not quite up to that level yet.
They could use hybrid technology like in the LaFerrari but that would not be possible from a price perspective as Ferrari would find it difficult to keep it's profit margin on that class of car. Ultra exclusive models like LaFerrari sell at any price point.
I agree that turbo-charging does have a detrimental impact on engine sound, nobody can argue with that, but for me the positives outweigh the negatives in this case. The Ferrari 458 Italia has an astonishing engine note and when it screams at high revs it gives me shivers.
Perhaps just as important to Ferrari as keeping up with the power war is that they must be seen to try and reduce it's average emissions despite being exempt from Euro emission regulations.
They could use hybrid technology like in the LaFerrari but that would not be possible from a price perspective as Ferrari would find it difficult to keep it's profit margin on that class of car. Ultra exclusive models like LaFerrari sell at any price point.
I agree that turbo-charging does have a detrimental impact on engine sound, nobody can argue with that, but for me the positives outweigh the negatives in this case. The Ferrari 458 Italia has an astonishing engine note and when it screams at high revs it gives me shivers.
Perhaps just as important to Ferrari as keeping up with the power war is that they must be seen to try and reduce it's average emissions despite being exempt from Euro emission regulations.
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Aren't there new emission standards where high revving N/A engines exceed? McLaren Was making faster cars than the 458 while using less fuel and stomping them in torque.
458 4.7L 13mpg city 570hp
650s 3.8L Turbos 16mpg city 641hp
488 GTB 4.0 Turbos 660hp 15mpg city
It's clear that the laws and practicality have something to do with Ferrari going Turbo. If you were expecting a N/A 4.8-5.0 V8 revving to 9k RPM and making 660 and beating new emissions you are dreaming lol. I do not think Ferrari would have gone this route had the MP4 and 650s not existed beating Ferrari at everything but being a Ferrari.
458 4.7L 13mpg city 570hp
650s 3.8L Turbos 16mpg city 641hp
488 GTB 4.0 Turbos 660hp 15mpg city
It's clear that the laws and practicality have something to do with Ferrari going Turbo. If you were expecting a N/A 4.8-5.0 V8 revving to 9k RPM and making 660 and beating new emissions you are dreaming lol. I do not think Ferrari would have gone this route had the MP4 and 650s not existed beating Ferrari at everything but being a Ferrari.
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I love the sound of a high revving NA engine, but I also love the unique sounds of a good turbo engine. I don't find them worse, just different.
Here's a turbo engine that'll give any NA engine a run for it's money in the sound department:
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- MeanElf
I see him on every leaderboard I attempt! He is one fast driver (Is he the one that uses the wheel?) I also see your name quite a few times in the top 5 Mr McPartyman
I wonder how much time kie spends keeping track of his many many many #1s
Kie apparently also uses a DS4 and chase cam when needed, though not always.
I think with regards to the notification part, that will open up when the app re-appears. That must have been one of the functions turned off at the beginning, as I remember seeing notifications showing up in the pre-launch trailers.
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- Deliciousbacco
Yeah the 288GTO and F40 were such boring cars... It's pretty bad Ferrari built those horrible rot boxes hey?
Ferrari isn't following a trend. They used Turbocharging to increase the power of their V8 without making it heaps bigger. The turbocharged engine also has tons more torque than the NA engines, and this is only possible because of the turbo.
Turbo cars are far from boring to drive. Of all the cars I've driven, the NAs are the most boring.
Saying turbocharging is the boring way to make power is daft, it's like slamming a car maker for building fuel injected engines, and saying they should stick to carburetors.
Sigh... that was exactly what I was trying to avoid, the good old turbo vs NA discussion. It's not different from the manual vs automatic transmission really.
I already stated my opinion clearly and seeing as someone even tried to put on the same league the great '80s-'90s turbos and the modern ones... there really is no point in going further.
Let's end it here. I don't like the new Ferrari for my own reasons while you do.
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- stigsdaddy
You were trying to avoid a turbo vs NA discussion by stating in a public forum that ferrari's new turbo car is no good because it's turbo instead of NA. I'm not sure you tried very hard to avoid that discussion mate... You actually went out of your way to start it.
Edit: You also didn't explain anything clearly in this thread. Maybe in a different one, but I'm not trawling around the forum to look for it. Ferrari haven't lost any "prestige" by using turbos. That's just rubbish. You are welcome to not like turbos, that's your opinion, but you stated that they have lost prestige by using turbos, which isn't an opinion, it's just nonsense.
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- MeanElf
I've been quite enjoying them. I think that they have surprised a few people. I like the challenges people are sending out, with all those different weather conditions and times of day. I tend to run my TTs on full random selection, so I'm not that caught out as those who always race in dry weather at midday - gives me a slight advantage
It also means those really, really fast ones out there, don't get more than two seconds ahead, so I don't lose their ghost over such a short stretch.
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- stigsdaddy
I've been quite enjoying them. I think that they have surprised a few people. I like the challenges people are sending out, with all those different weather conditions and times of day. I tend to run my TTs on full random selection, so I'm not that caught out as those who always race in dry weather at midday - gives me a slight advantage
It also means those really, really fast ones out there, don't get more than two seconds ahead, so I don't lose their ghost over such a short stretch.
I always have the ghosts turned off, as ghosts have always put me off in racing games. I find I follow them too much, and often I am faster when I find my own line through a corner than when I follow what's fast for someone else. I agree on your point though, it's nice to be able to stick close to the aliens, even if it's only due to the sprint being so short.
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- MeanElf
I know what you are saying about ghosts, I should have said that I have them set to 10% so they are pretty faint and no PSN ID. I went HUD-free for the first couple of months, but since the challenges kicked back in, well, I found that my curiosity got the better of me and I have just the relevant info up now, also at 10%.I always have the ghosts turned off, as ghosts have always put me off in racing games. I find I follow them too much, and often I am faster when I find my own line through a corner than when I follow what's fast for someone else. I agree on your point though, it's nice to be able to stick close to the aliens, even if it's only due to the sprint being so short.
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- stigsdaddy
Yeah I have minimal hud info. I just hate to cover those amazing visuals with the hud lol.
I tried having the ghosts turned down a fair bit, but they still bothered me lol. I'm weird like that. I have no problem when I'm actually racing people, and my race craft is usually my strength in racing games, rather than outright single lap pace, but give me a ghost to chase, and I'll be slower than having a clear track ahead. I think my brain might be subconsciously looking for opportunities to overtake, even though I know I can drive right through it, and I'm somehow prevented from fully focusing on what I'm doing lol. Again, I completely understand this is weird.
I tried having the ghosts turned down a fair bit, but they still bothered me lol. I'm weird like that. I have no problem when I'm actually racing people, and my race craft is usually my strength in racing games, rather than outright single lap pace, but give me a ghost to chase, and I'll be slower than having a clear track ahead. I think my brain might be subconsciously looking for opportunities to overtake, even though I know I can drive right through it, and I'm somehow prevented from fully focusing on what I'm doing lol. Again, I completely understand this is weird.
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- Mcpartyman
Remind me a little of some of the licence tests from Gran Turismo, some of them were like short sprints from existing courses. They are addictive but in some ways a little annoying as to get anywhere near the top you have to drive perfectly and unless you are Kie25 or eb4tiky that's a big ask!!
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Some news regarding the future of Driveclub:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/08/20/whats-next-for-driveclub/
More things to come monthly nice
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/08/20/whats-next-for-driveclub/
More things to come monthly nice
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