Drivetrain conversions
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Drivetrain and engine swaps are a must in my opinion, as long as they are sensible they allow real cars to be recreated, one of the first projects I did in FM4 along these lines was to recreate the Micra R:
Nissan Micra R
Based on the car Nissan UK had built its a 267bhp 2.0 litre turbo RWD conversion stripped out for the track, but still road legal (so not running slicks in this case).
Nissan Micra R
Based on the car Nissan UK had built its a 267bhp 2.0 litre turbo RWD conversion stripped out for the track, but still road legal (so not running slicks in this case).
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Iw would make the FF Challenge easier. Think: front wheel drive X2011.
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I think drivetrain modifacations are not necissary for GT6. I know it might sound interesting for some people but i think it kills all the cars characteristics and creates cars that handle nothing like their real counterpart. If the PP system is taking those changes into account it has to be balanced properly because otherwise you will only see Renault Clio V6 with 4WD online dominating the leaderboards while real 4WD cars like the Impreza for example have no chance anymore.
If its balanced properly its ok but If there is a feature concerning the technical side of the cars that i would happily sacrifice for something else, drivetrain modifications is the one.
If its balanced properly its ok but If there is a feature concerning the technical side of the cars that i would happily sacrifice for something else, drivetrain modifications is the one.
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Fixed; that thing handles like a cargo ship already, making it FWD will only make it handle like a tectonic plate...
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Drivetrain conversions are stupid IMHO. There's just not enough room under your Civic for a transfer case and rear axle/diff. This would have to change interiors, as the floor would be cut up and an all new shape. Trucks such as the Ram aren't AWD either, they are RWD with 4WD option, that's all you need.
Have any of you "I want a 500+hp V8 AWD former FF car" They aren't designed for that. I have personally followed a thread on ModdedMustangs where someone, in his garage, swapped a 98-ish Mustang Cobra rolling chassis under an Acura Integra body. Please read through and see how long and hard it was, even for someone that could afford it and knew how to weld etc. It's just no that easy. Here is a link
The only swaps that should be available should be engines from the manufacturer's designated performance division; such as Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth: Mopar, Ford, etc: Ford Racing, BMW: M(Motorsport). Maybe make AWD cars RWD as that is possible fairly easily.
Have any of you "I want a 500+hp V8 AWD former FF car" They aren't designed for that. I have personally followed a thread on ModdedMustangs where someone, in his garage, swapped a 98-ish Mustang Cobra rolling chassis under an Acura Integra body. Please read through and see how long and hard it was, even for someone that could afford it and knew how to weld etc. It's just no that easy. Here is a link
The only swaps that should be available should be engines from the manufacturer's designated performance division; such as Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth: Mopar, Ford, etc: Ford Racing, BMW: M(Motorsport). Maybe make AWD cars RWD as that is possible fairly easily.
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That doesn't matter. Just modify what you need to modify to get it to work. I'm all for being able to swap an engine into a car and then having the engine twist the transmission into a knot. I don't know if that will happen though because it will mean that each car will need to be modeled in a lot more detail.
Difficulty doesn't matter. It's possible, so it should be possible in game. RMing a car isn't as easy as pressing a button, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be in GT.
Restricts like this only limit fun, content, and variety. Working out how to best fit a V-12 into a Fiat 500 and then modifying the car so it can handle the engine could add some depth to GT. It's also not unrealistic, especially given that we can but unlimited copies of 1960's LeMans racers and managed garages of 1000's of cars.
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You can't put a v12 into a Fiat and expect it to work though. Look at the Dodge Dart GTS from 1970. Mopar said it couldn't be done, Mr. Norm's Garage did it and said 'Look, here it is. You can't turn it more than 15* before the tire hits the header, so don't do anything but drag race it'. It just doesn't make sense. This is just GT5 fans wanting FM4.
And on another topic...WHY DO YOU KEEP UNDERMINING ME!!! lol, not a problem with it as long as we can keep it civil, you really seem like you know what you're talking about. I just don't like how this is a bigger want than the fact that things like a 4WD truck is actually FR until changed, and the adj. center diff doesn't go to 0/100 like described.
And on another topic...WHY DO YOU KEEP UNDERMINING ME!!! lol, not a problem with it as long as we can keep it civil, you really seem like you know what you're talking about. I just don't like how this is a bigger want than the fact that things like a 4WD truck is actually FR until changed, and the adj. center diff doesn't go to 0/100 like described.
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But that's the point, if we're going for realism the traction gains that an "AWD F40" would be negated by the added weight and weight distribution that awd requires..the finished product will be less F40 and more primative FF...this is why if there's anything that I hope, it is that GT6 practices restraint in allowing drive/powertrain swaps...it shouldn't be too hard, most of the chassis from major manufacturers, no matter the selling configuration had an option for a different drivetrain (fwd-awd, rwd-awd); GT6 should abide by these to maintain some air of civility
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Need for Speed Shift did engine swaps but only aloud one per car so PD would choice 1 or 2 then, 787b engine in rx7, 13b in rx8, rb26dett in silvia s15, 2jz in celica etc, you get my drift. Only what possible to fit the bay. As N4S did, the racing engine for the road car equivalate for easy power gain.
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If they added drag racing, that wouldn't be a problem. Even if they didn't, people would drag anyway. More options never hurts. We've had drag cars before in GT even though they couldn't turn and there was no where to use them (GT2 HKS drag racer). Still, it was fun to drive.
I just like to discuss things, don't mind me. If everyone agreed I wouldn't be here, it would be a dull forum lol.
A AWD F40 won't necessarily be slower. If you had a conversion built to F1 quality in terms of design and materials I'd expect it to be much faster. There's really nothing you can't do to a car, it just depends on how much time and money you want to throw at it. I don't think those should be concerns in GT though. Just keep the focus on realism.
