Dualsense After update

[RacinLei]

That hasn't been my experience at all. When did you notice the above? I still get haptic feedback for ABS, traction, etc. with my DualSense controller. I was just playing yesterday evening.

After patch 1.15
I mean driving without abs. The moment the tire lock up. I hear it but i didnt feel it anymore.
And the griploss feeling isnt anymore the same like it was with the clk-lm @ le Mans vs deep forest with the same car.

For sf19 its complete gone or nearly not noticeable.

Haptik at all is to week for me, compare to the mighty rumple with ps4.
I like it shaky

And its not the controller, i have 4 original controller, 2 from release 2 new 1.

 

[Nebuc72]

After patch 1.15
I mean driving without abs. The moment the tire lock up. I hear it but i didnt feel it anymore.
And the griploss feeling isnt anymore the same like it was with the clk-lm @ le Mans vs deep forest with the same car.

For sf19 its complete gone or nearly not noticeable.

Haptik at all is to week for me, compare to the mighty rumple with ps4.
I like it shaky

And its not the controller, i have 4 original controller, 2 from release 2 new 1.

Something honestly sounds broken with your settings mate. I have 2 dualsense and a dualshock, PS4 and PS5 version - everything feels identical to how it did at launch.

 

[RacinLei]

Something honestly sounds broken with your settings mate. I have 2 dualsense and a dualshock, PS4 and PS5 version - everything feels identical to how it did at launch.

Thats really wierd.

I mean i install the ps4 version delete it and reinstall the ps5 version. So if it was broken it hase to be fixed by reinstalling it.

Stranger things happens

Do you tried the ps4 code on ps5?

 

[RacinLei]

Thank You PD for listening.

Finaly got back the steering angel for Dualsense. Feels so much better now.
Increast my times by 0.1-0.3 first try each track i tested so far ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻

 

[Nuschel01]

Placebo kick'd in yo!

 

[RacinLei]

Placebo kick'd in yo!

Not sensitive enough to feel the diffrents?….yo

But maybe some of you dosnt feel and see the diffrents because you racing arcady b-t-cam?!?
I race cockpitview and feel the car more diffrent then others do.
Who knows…..

 

[Kean_1]

Not sensitive enough to feel the diffrents?….yo

But maybe some of you dosnt feel and see the diffrents because you racing arcady b-t-cam?!?
I race cockpitview and feel the car more diffrent then others do.
Who knows…..

I only use cockpit view so yeah, doesn't apply in my case. ......but I guess I'll find out when I play the game tonight if there is indeed a difference. Never noticed one like you did before so I doubt it.

 

[RacinLei]

I only use cockpit view so yeah, doesn't apply in my case. ......but I guess I'll find out when I play the game tonight if there is indeed a difference. Never noticed one like you did before so I doubt it.

Is really funny that some dosnt feel the diffrent up to the point they where saying nothing changed since releas.
Inputlag got lower since release. Stickmovement to tiremovement get closer to 1:1 ratio like weel (still not the same but much better since release)

But maybe its the age of some people (finemotoric sensetivity fade away) or some headbanged to much in there life…..

 

[Sunzi]

Not sure about competitiveness v Wheels etc.

Deffo notice a difference though. Most discernible with a car like the Mclaren F1 GTR (Short tail) which was a real handful before. Its different now.

 

[RacinLei]

Not sure about competitiveness v Wheels etc.

Deffo notice a difference though. Most discernible with a car like the Mclaren F1 GTR (Short tail) which was a real handful before. Its different now.

Same here: i race 80% Superformula and know that Car pretty well. So any diffrents is noticeable.

 

[Sunzi]

Same here: i race 80% Superformula and know that Car pretty well. So any diffrents is noticeable.

I feel like the F1 GTR is now completely broken.

It used to be really snappy, but had good turn in. It's got some big understeer now and still tail happy.

 

[RacinLei]

I feel like the F1 GTR is now completely broken.

It used to be really snappy, but had good turn in. It's got some big understeer now and still tail happy.

This is probably a PP or physik chang. I expirence it with the amg gt3. It slides a bit more then before.

 

[Granite_Lw]

This thread really confused me at the time as to why I couldn't feel any difference and now it's even more intriguing now it's been fixed with no announcement!

I'll be back online on Saturday so will be really trying to tell if it feels different again or if I improve times!

 

[RacinLei]

This thread really confused me at the time as to why I couldn't feel any difference and now it's even more intriguing now it's been fixed with no announcement!

I'll be back online on Saturday so will be really trying to tell if it feels different again or if I improve times!

Please let me/us know. Try it with youre most driven car.
My ankerpoint is always super Licence s7 with superformula.
Before patch 1.15 i hit a 1:03,681 since then i didnt reach or improve. Today after the patch i hit 1:03,511 first try. Due to the fact im able to run turn 2 in 4th gear instead of 3rd gear. Due to the slight increase of steering angel.

 

[Granite_Lw]

Please let me/us know. Try it with youre most driven car.
My ankerpoint is always super Licence s7 with superformula.
Before patch 1.15 i hit a 1:03,681 since then i didnt reach or improve. Today after the patch i hit 1:03,511 first try. Due to the fact im able to run turn 2 in 4th gear instead of 3rd gear. Due to the slight increase of steering angel.

Yeah I'll try with cars I know. Should warn you though; I am certainly getting older, my eyesight isn't great, neither is my hearing & I certainly did too much headbanging when I was younger! 🤣

 

[RacinLei]

Yeah I'll try with cars I know. Should warn you though; I am certainly getting older, my eyesight isn't great, neither is my hearing & I certainly did too much headbanging when I was younger! 🤣

All good m8 im 43 🤣

 

[RacinLei]

A good spot for testing it is deep forrest the last u turn. Much better now.

Thank you PD 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

 

[Lambob]

misery loves company. I searched the forum and found this post. I love the dualsense and am enjoying the gyro steering, however, as I have been discovering the TT (time trials) now with Interlagos, I put on some 1,500 km on it, and cannot for the life of me achieve gold. best (lucky?) laptime is 1.25:109 , exploring TC 1, TC 0, inlap altering, and lo and behold the hairpin sections turn better with TC5 go figure. but accel out needs TC 0 for any attempt at gold with the controller. I can consistently lap 1:25:700 even with TC 1 left on at all times, all else off, save for ABS, controller sensitivities tried them all, please explain the negative 2 PD...

I think I've hit a wall, to take it to the next level, as I am witnessing limitiations in turn radius as well. one thing I tried doing as of late, and perhaps this could serve as a wish list, is if moving the entire pad as to jerk it to a side, would be to throw the wheel to an 'increased rotational lock , coupled with the usual steering input. (like kids used to toss game controllers in air nearly knocking their friends in the face sitting next to them so to speak)

if anyone can gyro steer to gold in TT Interlagos GR.2 at 1:24:500, please send me some insight on this. I;ve watched countless videos, and tips, but something I need to try is a change to overall approach with braking input. apparently Gr.2 cars do not like prolonged braking time, it removes traction at the turns. very hard to be gentle with feedback on the brakes on the dualsense. or code ingame needs to change on braking input trigger, perhaps to give most trigger travel i.e 90% to only 50% braking, and only full on braking at the last 10% of trigger squeeze, so to speak.

 

[Barareklam]

I can't reach gold either, and I use tilt steering too. I am on 3,99% of gold. I know my answer doesn't help you to reach the gold, but maybe give perspective that gyro steering isn't really correct. I don't know which view you use but if you switch to cockpit view and check hands on the steering wheel in car you will see how much they shake in sharp turns. If you want just to compare and switch for experiment sake steering to left joystick and use same cockpit view, you will see that hands don't shake. So, with that being said, don't be harsh on yourself, gyro steering in gt7 is not fully correct and that's why you can't gold in this interlagos gr2 TT.

 

[RacinLei]

Tire grip response via haptik feedback still missing. Last felt with patch 1.23

 

[Nebuc72]

Tire grip response via haptik feedback still missing. Last felt with patch 1.23

Feels the same to me as it did at launch mate. Sounds like your controller has packed it in.

 

[RacinLei]

@Nebuc72
Right now it feels like launch. Tire grip feedback was first implementet with patch 1.13 or so and since then is an on/off disaster after each update

 

[RacinLei]

Please PD crank up the steering speed for Dualsense and remember yourself on your comercial
“be competitive with Dualsense“
Right now there is an overall gap up to 1.2 sec only because of steeringspeed not sensetivity.
Have a look to f122 or Driveclub they have the best implementation for controller.

 

[KaiB]

well i think its just normal, the biggest disavantage gamepad users had was tyre degradation compared to wheel users.
I dont know the diferences in GT7 cause i dont compete in private leagues anymore, but in terms of cheers speed i knew and know some users that can match wheel users, actually i competed against one gamepad user that winned the Champions Race in my country against the best wheel users one of them was a esport driver that use to compete in FIA live events that lost against him in that race.

The only tracks that i could get near him was in Interlagos and in some combos that tire degradation come more into play since private races we raced all had 30/40m duration minimum.

Also i think its impossible for PD to make perfect balance between wheel and gamepad users, if they achieve that wheels users also will not be happy and probably the game physics will also suffer from that,.

 

[RacinLei]

For pd? Yes there are not able or not willing.
Tracks like interlagos the problem isnt so big like in road atlanta. Its the quick waight exchange in quick corners like T3 road atlanta that cause problems with controller.
Steering wheel user are able to throw the cars into corners, with controller you have to be always smooth.

 

[KaiB]

For pd? Yes there are not able or not willing.
Tracks like interlagos the problem isnt so big like in road atlanta. Its the quick waight exchange in quick corners like T3 road atlanta that cause problems with controller.
Steering wheel user are able to throw the cars into corners, with controller you have to be always smooth.

Wheel users also have to be gentle the diference is that we have more control in angles/brakes/throttle so its #easier" to attack the corners and be more agressive.

Anyway i think GT its the best game in terms of support for gamepad..., any more serious SIM its impossible to compete using a gamepad...

Dont really know ifs it possible to make a perfect balance

 

[RacinLei]

Its the opposit, it is the worst so far. Games like f122 or even the good old driveclub hit it perfect.

But here is the thing, this counts mostly for bop. Im able to overcome moste of the issus by tweeking the car a bit

 

[KaiB]

Driveclub its not exactly a Simcade..., and F1 22 dont really know, any gamepad user its able to compete in Esport events?
In GT we know theres people that can qualify for those events using gamepads.

Anyway since theres so many diferences and limitations in a gamepad i actually think PD do a good job.

When i played Gt sport i used motion sensor.., after a couple weeks/months i builded a decent pace but got a wheel before i tested in a real competition, but motion sensor its a lot more fun compared to traditional gameplay, like using sticks/pads, but dont know the full potential when someone really master it, it requires technique and cant be used like a normal wheel, need to sit in normal position, use the legs to suport the forearms and to turn the only thing to do its to inclinate the gamepad, like lower left side and up right side of gamepad to turn left for example, its a lot easier to do trajectorys just need a lot of pratice.

The fastest guy i know using gamepad he used right stick to brake/acelerate..., but he is just an alien and his hands look like spider legs all over the gamepad. But motion sensor was the most immersive and intuitive experience i ever had in a racing game using a gamepad and was on Gt sport.

 

[RacinLei]

@KaiB

You have a wheel so you can compare it.
Use sf19 go on track, stop and switch to cockpitview. Now steer quick left right left right and watch the tires.
And then please tell me you expiriance

 

[KaiB]

@KaiB

You have a wheel so you can compare it.
Use sf19 go on track, stop and switch to cockpitview. Now steer quick left right left right and watch the tires.
And then please tell me you expiriance

When i got the time i can do that..., for shure will turn slower cause theres filters it seems or else people couldnt be consistent enough.
Did you tried motion sensor to see if those filters still apply, i mean if it turns faster with sensibility at 10?

I`m not a pro gamepad user..., barely have time nowdays, just giving some sugestion/alternative, it not hurts to try.

Best thing is to get a wheel in a good promotion i guess, if people thing it worth the upgrade.