EA Sports WRC: General Discussion
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Doing the Rally of Mediterraneo(Corsica?) in the VW 2017, I think this was the worst instance for stuttering for me on the PC, I feel like for every other input its acommpanied by some stuttering then the vehicle react to it. So many times it just causes enough of a trajectory impact and I am spitting out the other side....I've tried tweaking down my tree details, shadow details, shader level, Anistropic(sp) level...etc and none of it really does anything....
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I'm suffering quite badly too, It's making me not want to play the career until the Patch comes. I just check for new moments and maybe try some cars I fancy driving and thats it.
I did some runs on Estonia and it didnt seem bad at all, But todays Renault 5 Moment at Monte was quite rough I have to say.
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Sorta the same here, I think the game is fun when it was running ok and the long stages are challenging in their own right jumping between cars and following notes, but not as fun when you are trying to keep up with the road and the notes and second guessing if the car is actually going to do what you are doing or not...
I also noticed even I turned camera shake to zero the you notice the camera still moves sometimes...
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Yeah I play with 0 Cam Shake too and I think there is still some slight movement at times still.
The patch is due anytime so let's hope that delivers what they are saying.
I love the game as a package I have to say. I just can't wait to let myself dive in fully with nothing holding me back😊
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Just use DR2.0 for Australia and Wales. I remember doing that when the original DR came out, only I split the events between DR and Sebastien Loeb Rally Evo. Both individually light on locations but together you could piece together a whole 1990s WRC season.
I do massively miss Australia and the UK though, watching WRC as a kid in the 90s those were probably my two most memorable events to watch. McRae putting that Focus into the tree trunk in '99 being almost as memorable as Sainz's final stage breakdown in Wales '98. Those live stages they did on BBC Grandstand where it started off with all the Nissan Sunnys and stuff then ended with Colin ragging it in an Impreza...
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Please enjoy
I put it also in the videos thread
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Is there any way to switch off the management stuff in the Career mode? I want to race the cars, not manage the team. Don't even get me started on the game telling me that I need to hire an engineer before an event (you don't actually need to, from what I can figure out), but then pushing me to enter an event without one anyway to please the sponsors.
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Posted yesterday on EA Sports WRC Discord. Informative post.
Wow. Ya'll really got lost in the weeds on the engine stuff, haha. Which version of UE4 it's using is irrelevant (but it is 4.27!), the traversal stutters will be there regardless, even after the shader compilation process is implemented. Been an issue in all sorts of UE games with how larger maps are divided up into separate tiles and how assets are streamed/loaded in on the fly since the beginning. So in WRC, every time you cross the boundary in a stage that triggers the load for the next tile on the fly, you will get a hitch. Even with very fast NVMe storage and the best PC hardware out there. It's a bummer in any game, but a fast paced racing game like this it's even worse when it hits, even if it is consistent and always happening in the same exact spot every time.
Wow. Ya'll really got lost in the weeds on the engine stuff, haha. Which version of UE4 it's using is irrelevant (but it is 4.27!), the traversal stutters will be there regardless, even after the shader compilation process is implemented. Been an issue in all sorts of UE games with how larger maps are divided up into separate tiles and how assets are streamed/loaded in on the fly since the beginning. So in WRC, every time you cross the boundary in a stage that triggers the load for the next tile on the fly, you will get a hitch. Even with very fast NVMe storage and the best PC hardware out there. It's a bummer in any game, but a fast paced racing game like this it's even worse when it hits, even if it is consistent and always happening in the same exact spot every time.
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Whereas on my Series X, it was a stuttering screen teary mess.Can confirm that it's fine on my Xbox
I really don't get it, there seems to be no rhyme or reason. Can't wait til it's sorted - still bought the full version after the trial because I do have faith and I'm loving it other than the performance issues.
I'm genuinely starting to think there's something bigger going on when every single new game I've tried this year is a buggy or poorly optimised mess
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There is, it’s called gaming in the 2020s 😅I'm genuinely starting to think there's something bigger going on when every single new game I've tried this year is a buggy or poorly optimised mess
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Thanks for the advice on running Championship mode instead, I'll give that a try later. In terms of performance it's running fairly well on my Xbox Series X with only a small hitch of less than half a second about 3-4 times per stage. I can live with that.
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Whereas on my Series X, it was a stuttering screen teary mess.
I really don't get it, there seems to be no rhyme or reason. Can't wait til it's sorted - still bought the full version after the trial because I do have faith and I'm loving it other than the performance issues.
I'm genuinely starting to think there's something bigger going on when every single new game I've tried this year is a buggy or poorly optimised mess
It sounds more and more like the shaders compiling to me, otherwise why would two people on the same hardware have different experiences?
Thing is, no game in this day and age should have an asterix next to it saying "on certain events your experience will be really ropy until you play it long enough for the shaders to compile at which point performance should improve"
They really need to get the patch out. Personally I've been avoiding all the tarmac rallies because I dunno if it's the faster turning on tarmac or what, but those seem to be the ones where there are issues. I can play most of the gravel rallies and it's fine. But I did try Monte Carlo again before and it seemed better than the last time. I'm unsure whether you have to actually run the specific stages to get the performance to improve or whether its just general play hours and s gradual process across the board.
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That's true. Now... what if Codemasters turns out to make a difference, and make magic with that engine like no one else has ever done? Codemasters are programming geniuses. If anyone could get something out of this graphics engine, it would be this study. I'm sure.
I don't know what to do in the regularity tests... I don't understand the point. I don't know when to brake and/or accelerate xD
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You only have to look at how many people are being made redundant in the games industry right now to see that there are issues. Devs are under more pressure than ever before to make more complex games with tighter deadlines and budgets. Optimisation seems to be one of the first areas to fall as it can be a huge time sink with the sheer amount of PC specs that are out there.I'm genuinely starting to think there's something bigger going on when every single new game I've tried this year is a buggy or poorly optimised mess
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That's bang on.
On PS5 the worst stutters are always in the same spots.
It breaks immersion and in worst case scenario can screw up your rally if it hits when you are trying to correct a mistake etc.
Hopefully CM can work some magic on the issues, but I'm not holding my breath.
On another note, still can't even navigate the menus on Podium button module endurance even though the options menu recognises the button presses etc
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Indeed it was the first event i played that day. Stage 1 was super fluid no issues, stage 2 was insane. I was worried my ps5 was faulting.
Then moved to junior wrc in Croazia. All good.
For all other events that I played.. nothing too serious. Fully playable and I am enjoying it. Really like the career mode, it has variety.
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I like the career mode as well, I thought it was like Project Cars in trying to make some kind of single player campaign to a racing game, which normally is just config a race and go and it forces to drive different cars which can be fun(or not...lol).
I feel live I've had stages run better on repeats, then also have had stages that got worse the more repeats I've had. And I agree I think stutter is easier to manage on gravel/snow than tarmac. I also wonder if the stuttering is linked also to some un-configrable camera movement. As mentioned I set my camera movement to zero but I still see it moves sometimes and it often accompanied with stutter....
I feel live I've had stages run better on repeats, then also have had stages that got worse the more repeats I've had. And I agree I think stutter is easier to manage on gravel/snow than tarmac. I also wonder if the stuttering is linked also to some un-configrable camera movement. As mentioned I set my camera movement to zero but I still see it moves sometimes and it often accompanied with stutter....
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Well Ive certainly enjoyed the game in certain circumstances, but right now im really disengaged with it (didnt think this would happen so quickly) I think it might be best to shelve it and wait for updates to arrive. The career is really obtuse and some of the moments have thrown up cars and track combo's that have made me rage quit the game. I only play for relaxation and flow state is only possible without game engine stutters, and with certain car / surface combo's (having these dictated in moments / career is not appealing). When I return Im playing my way in custom championships with the full car roster, and no tedious team management . Sophy is calling me.
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