Engine Swaps in Gran Turismo 7? New Screenshots Raise New Questions

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I used to have a BMW 2002 Turbo with a Honda F20C swap in GT4 and also in GT5. It had the six-speed manual of the S2000 and various other parts, in GT4 it had the mesh BBS rims of the Lotus Esprit and the staggered tire/wheel sizes of the Renault Clio V6. Was always my favourite car in the game, not because of its unobtainium origins, but because of the way it sounded and drove.

M3 E30 with an S85 V10 swap here I come :D


Edit: Found a post with a pic of the GT5 version of it: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/hybrid-trading-thread-read-1st-post.273160/post-8895989

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It would be nice if you need to buy a old car in the used car list to get the engine out ans swap it to an other car and upgrade it!
OR!!!! get a old used car and swap a big engine in it!

A bit like the Supra from FF1 or something....
 
Actually since the E30 M3 is now in the game I could be politically correct and swap an S14 into the BMW 2002. This has been done a lot IRL
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EDIT: 😡 Wait! I just realize that the 2002 isn't confirmed yet. Neither is the E60 M5 …

It would be nice if you need to buy a old car in the used car list to get the engine out ans swap it to an other car and upgrade it!
OR!!!! get a old used car and swap a big engine in it!

A bit like the Supra from FF1 or something....
That is actually a great idea
And then sell off all the salvaged parts on the black market 😂
 
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I'm also on the side of expecting limited options when it comes to engine swaps. I'd rather be surprised than disappointed. If we assume that the "Extreme" tab in the tuning shop is where the swappable engines are, then I don't see each car having some 50 options each. More realisticaly we see a handful of options for each car, some more, some less, but nothing crazy.

Anyway, if we get the LFA at some point, swapping it's engine to as many cars as possible is the only right way to do it. The sound is just too good.

Said that, if cars added via update/DLC get their engines available to other cars, this opens up an interesting mechanic, where players will have a new set of engines, and they will have to discover which cars can now use them. Not only that, but the new cars would most likely be able to get new engines as well, giving us a ton of possibilities.
 
That's a really cool feature, but I see it being very limited to only some very popular and/or somewhat logical engine swaps on some otherwise slow cars (VW Beetle, old Fiat 500 and maybe an older American muscle car), so we could make those cars more fun to drive (I mean, seriously, who would enjoy driving a stock Beetle in a game?).
Magnificent new feature nevertheless!
 
OneLapHeroes Camaro LFX V6 swapped Miata



If fear it must be ever so slightly nose-heavy, but would be cool anyway
 
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That's a really cool feature, but I see it being very limited to only some very popular and/or somewhat logical engine swaps on some otherwise slow cars (VW Beetle, old Fiat 500 and maybe an older American muscle car), so we could make those cars more fun to drive (I mean, seriously, who would enjoy driving a stock Beetle in a game?).
Magnificent new feature nevertheless!
There's a Kaz new interview regarding him adding more entry level cars. And honestly, some voiced (including in response to that interview) that racing with slower cars can be more fun like it can produce closer racing or such (like the Kei car only racing).
 
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This is definitely a significant feature and I don't understand why they didn't just say that they got engine swaps in the game and actually go into detail with it from the start. This is a feature that gets me and plenty of other players excited. I'm definitely expecting it to be limited to certain vehicles but that's fine. I'm just glad we actually got something new in GT7. Tuning and customizing your vehicle is definitely gonna be fun on this game.
 
This is definitely a significant feature and I don't understand why they didn't just say that they got engine swaps in the game and actually go into detail with it from the start. This is a feature that gets me and plenty of other players excited. I'm definitely expecting it to be limited to certain vehicles but that's fine. I'm just glad we actually got something new in GT7. Tuning and customizing your vehicle is definitely gonna be fun on this game.
they also added some new tuning parts that weren't present before
 
Actually since the E30 M3 is now in the game I could be politically correct and swap an S14 into the BMW 2002. This has been done a lot IRL
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EDIT: 😡 Wait! I just realize that the 2002 isn't confirmed yet. Neither is the E60 M5 …


That is actually a great idea
And then sell off all the salvaged parts on the black market 😂
I would kill for a BMW 2002 in this game. The E28 M5, and the E30 325I would be great too. :cheers:
 
I remember putting a small block V8 or rally engine was the meta back in the earlier Forza Motorsport games. I hope engine swaps aren’t meta for GT7.
 
Remember this? https://www.gtplanet.net/mario-andretti-featured-in-gran-turismo-6-first-love-interactive-campaign/

I remember Kaz saying players may be able to build their own cars. This isn’t that article https://news.sky.com/story/gran-turismo-wants-to-build-real-life-racer-10445458, but it’s as if Kaz is living up to that promise.

Players did it with modding and other games allow players to build their own creations today, but now, all GT players can officially build theirs. Good stuff.
 
I can't wait to get my hands on this. It will be interesting to see what players can come up with
 
With all this talk of wanting to simulate car culture I have to bore you all with something most don't have on their radars. In northern (and some southern) mainland european countries there is no bigger car culture than the one that evolved around a brand from Germany which has been a true 'people's car' for decades.

An engine developed by said brand in the mid '80s, a 2 liter 16v NA aswell as its Turbo brother, is so popular among car enthusiasts, it is often called the best 4 cylinder in history. And has been swapped into a variety of cars, not just from the same brand, it was even put into E30 BMWs.

That engine has also been in use in motorsports for, probably longer than any other engine, from Formula 3 to BTCC and STW until early WTCC. It's also a very popular engine outside of western Europe, like in Russia for example. And in Brazil it even holds a Record for the quickest naturally aspirated engine used in drag racing.

I own this engine myself, in its naturally aspirated and stock form. And I'm very happy I do.

Although the brand isn't in GT7 nor is it confirmed it ever will be, if I had at least the engine to put in any car, let's say a classic Mini (which has been done IRL), I'd be a pretty happy camper.
 
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4WS option.... hopefully that means we will get actually 4ws working physics and get the 3rd generation Honda Prelude with mechanical 4ws for the first time in GT history.

Exciting times ahead.
 
Ah! Thats a world I don't know much about.
Best 4-cylinder in history? 🙄 Well whatever floats your boat, I guess.

I wish Hartley Engines was in the game. A 90kg V8 would be the perfect swap candidate for an E30.
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There's a Kaz new interview regarding him adding more entry level cars. And honestly, some voiced (including in response to that interview) that racing with slower cars can be more fun like it can produce closer racing or such (like the Kei car only racing).
Adding slower cars just for the sake of it is not really a good move. Specially since they are trying to please very different kinds of players with very different tastes in cars.
Close racing can happen with any type of car, they don't need to be slow, and it relies more on the drivers than the cars.

At this point, it's safe to say that we have a pretty solid list of slower cars. They make up for some 7% of the car list, and I'm only counting with cars below the DS3 Racing and Abarth 500 as "slow cars". And with engine swaps being a thing, they will get a bit more usage from the rest of the players (that otherwise wouldn't touch them).
 
Ah! Thats a world I don't know much about.
Best 4-cylinder in history? 🙄 Well whatever floats your boat, I guess.

I wish Hartley Engines was in the game. A 90kg V8 would be the perfect swap candidate for an E30.
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I said it is often called that, by 'best' it doesn't have to be referred at its power alone, but other things like reliability (which was an issue for the BMW 4 cyl, hence the amounts of swaps performed back then) the success in Motorsport speaks for itself, and subjective things like sound and feeling. Purely focusing on power outputs, it was the best of it's time, definitely. Of course there came 'more powerful' 4 cylinder engines after the C20XE, but that doesn't also make them 'better'.
 
Adding slower cars just for the sake of it is not really a good move. Specially since they are trying to please very different kinds of players with very different tastes in cars.
Close racing can happen with any type of car, they don't need to be slow, and it relies more on the drivers than the cars.

At this point, it's safe to say that we have a pretty solid list of slower cars. They make up for some 7% of the car list, and I'm only counting with cars below the DS3 Racing and Abarth 500 as "slow cars". And with engine swaps being a thing, they will get a bit more usage from the rest of the players (that otherwise wouldn't touch them).
.....but his point isn't adding slower cars "just for the sake" of adding slower cars. There is legitimate reasoning behind it of which I happen to agree with. .....besides some of my own points of the view on the topic.

For one, slower cars are much more forgiving to drive and allow much more time for players to assess situations, plan and react. Simple mistakes don't necessarily turn into costly consequences like dropping a tire off the edge of the track or being nudged traveling 150MPH down a straight. They are easier to recover and keep racing.

There's also something to said about these more common car types that tend to speak to the everyday driver. How many times have we heard people reminiscing about cars they've owned and wished they were represented in the game. .....many, relatively common cars but people still form connections with them.

To your point, the fact that we are now able to customize these vehicles again brings it to a whole new level. Players are able to grow and appreciate their efforts by upgrading their cars. Maybe a dream they always had in real life but never did / could.

Don't get me wrong. Driving exotic & race cars is great. .....GT3 happens to be my favorite class but I also wouldn't mind a wider selection of more "everyday" cars that I can own and modify.

Being a 2010 Dodge Challenger R/T owner, I loved having the '08 represented in GT5/6. I was hoping the modern Challenger would make a comeback personally in GT7. .....as well as a 1969 Charger given I'm a fan and owner of that car as well. .....and maybe the 02/03 "bugeye" WRX because again, I have a personal connection with one I owned over 8 years.

I think these slower cars are simply more accessible to most and (I think) most will feel more of a personal connection with these that they interact with in their daily lives through ownership, a realistic desire to purchase and so on.
 
.....but his point isn't adding slower cars "just for the sake" of adding slower cars. There is legitimate reasoning behind it of which I happen to agree with. .....besides some of my own points of the view on the topic.

For one, slower cars are much more forgiving to drive and allow much more time for players to assess situations, plan and react. Simple mistakes don't necessarily turn into costly consequences like dropping a tire off the edge of the track or being nudged traveling 150MPH down a straight. They are easier to recover and keep racing.

There's also something to said about these more common car types that tend to speak to the everyday driver. How many times have we heard people reminiscing about cars they've owned and wished they were represented in the game. .....many, relatively common cars but people still form connections with them.

To your point, the fact that we are now able to customize these vehicles again brings it to a whole new level. Players are able to grow and appreciate their efforts by upgrading their cars. Maybe a dream they always had in real life but never did / could.

Don't get me wrong. Driving exotic & race cars is great. .....GT3 happens to be my favorite class but I also wouldn't mind a wider selection of more "everyday" cars that I can own and modify.

Being a 2010 Dodge Challenger R/T owner, I loved having the '08 represented in GT5/6. I was hoping the modern Challenger would make a comeback personally in GT7. .....as well as a 1969 Charger given I'm a fan and owner of that car as well. .....and maybe the 02/03 "bugeye" WRX because again, I have a personal connection with one I owned over 8 years.

I think these slower cars are simply more accessible to most and (I think) most will feel more of a personal connection with these that they interact with in their daily lives through ownership, a realistic desire to purchase and so on.
Exactly. It’s been at the core of ownership since the beginning of the franchise.
 
I said it is often called that, by 'best' it doesn't have to be referred at its power alone, but other things like reliability (which was an issue for the BMW 4 cyl, hence the amounts of swaps performed back then) the success in Motorsport speaks for itself, and subjective things like sound and feeling. Purely focusing on power outputs, it was the best of it's time, definitely. Of course there came 'more powerful' 4 cylinder engines after the C20XE, but that doesn't also make them 'better'.
I knew which engine you meant. Would love to see Vauxhall and Opel return to GT myself.
 
I remember putting a small block V8 or rally engine was the meta back in the earlier Forza Motorsport games. I hope engine swaps aren’t meta for GT7.
It probably will be.
 
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