Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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About the quote from Thomas.

Couldn`t it be just the fact, that he means only REAL WORLD rims (find no other word for it) to exchange like Sparco, OMP, MOMO and so on?

Because if all new Fanatec rims will have the quick release system on it, i don`t see the possibility of mounting them to the CSR Elite because of lacking the quick release system.

Hopefully im wrong, hehe ^^ :dopey:
 
rebla47
CSW and CSR Elite looks great, but I advert a pair of fails in the desing: the base seems made to fit in cockpits with screws only, and with an angle between wheel rim and the ground of 90º (not ideal for GT, rally and Nascar style playing).
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My gut reaction is you're right and that's how the CSR Elite and CSW will come out of the box. I bet Fanatec will make a ClubSport Table Clamp that is compatible, or revise the current version with more holes to fit the new wheels.
 
Hi guys my country game dealers finally bring in gt2 wheel standard package without clubsport pedal n selling at $680 usd or so. Very very costly right? Some more now with csr wheel announced etc.. I was wondering is it still logical for anyone to buy gt2 wheel? We might as well wait another half a yr for csr wheel to reach my country sigh. What a long wait. Tks for advice pal.
 
boons
Hi guys my country game dealers finally bring in gt2 wheel standard package without clubsport pedal n selling at $680 usd or so. Very very costly right? Some more now with csr wheel announced etc.. I was wondering is it still logical for anyone to buy gt2 wheel? We might as well wait another half a yr for csr wheel to reach my country sigh. What a long wait. Tks for advice pal.
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It depends on what do you like. It looks like CSR is using the same base as GT2. Although we don't know exactly, but probably the base mechanics are the same. Most noticeable difference is the rim itself. Thomas has said that compared to CSR, GT2 has .

full Alcantara wheel rim
backlit illumination
RF connection on PC and PS3 (although this is more a hidden feature as it is not official)
exchangeable shifter paddles with option for carbon fibre shifter paddles
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Has anyone heard when GT2 Clubsport packages may be making a come back? I really want a GT2 for Forza 4 launch, but would prefer to wait for the savings of the club sport package if possible.
 
bumer
It depends on what do you like. It looks like CSR is using the same base as GT2. Although we don't know exactly, but probably the base mechanics are the same. Most noticeable difference is the rim itself. Thomas has said that compared to CSR, GT2 has .
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So it seems you (and I) like the GT2 over CSR non-Elite, no ?

Scotty
 
So we know for sure the CSR Elite can use the F1 rim then? It will just lack the quick release? still seems a little strange that CSR Elite will cost so much more then the CSW. I know why (xbox hardware). but I am thinking its kind of worth less just based on the very little we've been told. I believe it to be worth every penny but I just expected it to cost less than CSW

rebla47
After to see the T500 RS construction quality (and the Thrustmaster repairment service), and how boring the GT5 is, I´m considering to sell my T500 RS and to buy a CSR Standart with Clubsport pedals.

CSW and CSR Elite looks great, but I advert a pair of fails in the desing: the base seems made to fit in cockpits with screws only, and with an angle between wheel rim and the ground of 90º (not ideal for GT, rally and Nascar style playing).
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Yeah I feel bad for PS3 only t500rs users. You only have 3 games to play (GT5 / Dirt 3 / Nascar). I primarily (almost like 100% these days) stick to PC and occasionally come back to GT5 when it gets new seasonals and for the online. On the other hand, even ISR didnt recommend t500rs for the pure console gamer (since its support is so limited)

At least the CSW will be better in this respect with the ability to work with most games like the Fanatec wheels in the past making it a strong contender for the console gamer. Still, TM will have a really good shifter (T8RS) so I wonder will Fanatec's surprise be the CSS announcement. This way the new line up will be complete (along with handbrake).
 
sandboxgod
So we know for sure the CSR Elite can use the F1 rim then? It will just lack the quick release? still seems a little strange that CSR Elite will cost so much more then the CSW. I know why (xbox hardware). but I am thinking its kind of worth less just based on the very little we've been told. I believe it to be worth every penny but I just expected it to cost less than CSW
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Where did you take that CSR Elite can use F1 rim?

CSR Elite costs less not more. CSW costs 450 for the base + at least 150 for the wheel rim. CSR Elite will cost 500.

scoddee
So it seems you (and I) like the GT2 over CSR non-Elite, no ?

Scotty
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I like GT2 more than regular CSR because of the looks and alcantara, but it doesn't matter what I like as I'm going to replace my GT3 RS with CSW anyway.
 
jedikd
Has anyone heard when GT2 Clubsport packages may be making a come back? I really want a GT2 for Forza 4 launch, but would prefer to wait for the savings of the club sport package if possible.
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hear hear!

Are the components available separately at this time?

iirc, Fanatec dropped the package around January 2011 citing no stock of separate components (GT2 wheel was out of stock?). Fanatec said they were going to reintroduce the GT2 wheel+CSP package in the summer when they had the GT2 back in stock.

It is now moving into late summer....
;)
 
I was wondering if Fanatec will release some news on the CSS. For a long time the CSS looked like the next big thing after the CSP. But everyone got more than they asked for with the CSW and CSR-E.

With the release of the Porsche 911 (991) which will be the first production car with a 7 speed manual gearbox, I was wondering if that had any impact on the CSS. Coincidentally TM's TH8RS also launched a 7 speed manual shifter. Given Fanatec's close links to the Porsche brand, I wonder if the CSS will actually mimic a proper Porsche shifter. Or perhaps, like the CSW, has actual shifter boots/knobs changing possibilities. :)
 
I've been following this thread and Fanatec products for a while now as i was, and still am, interested in a cross platform 900 degree wheel. Just as I was about to order the GT2 with Clubsport pedals, the news of the new CS line of wheels. So I decided to wait and see what happens..

The question I have is about the amount of degrees.
As the GT2 was 900°, one might assume the CSR Elite (which will be my wheel of choice) will also be 900°. But FM3 didn't support 900° if i'm correct. So now with the new wheel being Forza branded, and not having heard anything about FM4 supporting 900°, I don't know if the CSR Elite might be 270°. Is that a game restriction or an Xbox360 restriction?

And with the new internals, how does, or would it work?
If the game (FM3 for instance) is 270°, and the wheel 900°, but perhaps set to 270°, lock and hit a barrier, or just loose the force feedback and go into an outer deadzone?

I hope to be drifting 900° in FM4!
 
FM3 supported 900 degrees on 911 turbo s(gt2) but not in animation. You can adjust everything with fanatec wheels so relax :)
 
Like the guy above me said, forza 3 did support 900 rotation. If you do not use the 900 the wheel sets the FF really strong after you reach the point of rotation that you have set. Fo examle, if you set it to 540, it kind of feels like you hit a wall, and it gets really hard to turn the wheel past that point.
 
Okay thanks guys! I dont care about the wheel animations ingame as i am always in bumpercam..

Now lets hope Fanatec can give us these great wheel at FM4 launch!
 
SLAPHAPPYFRANKY
900 degree doesn't work correctly in FM3. No where near what other games like LFS, GT5, or rFactor have done.
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All i know is, that if I turn my wheel all the way to the right, the cars tires turn all the way to the right. That leads me to believe that it has 900 degree steering. Now if those tires are actually doing anything with the road, I have no idea.

What is it in forza 3 that doesn't make the 900 work correctly?
 
I've read somewhere that if you check the steering rotation amounts in the telemetry; it does actually say 900 when fully turned. (or a correct value offcourse)

But ive also read that is was not linear or somethin...
 
ZSPaulus
But ive also read that is was not linear or somethin...
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Yes, forza did not have linear steering. Also the steering buffer took away the joy from driving.

Linearity problem in forza: If you turn wheel from center to full angle at steady speed, at first wheels on car turn fast but after some angle turning speed gets slower. In GT5 or LFS wheels on car turn at same speed as with wheel controller input.
 
New ISR video is out but all they do is briefly show the CSW and play with it for a bit.

I must say this CSW would be god's own wheel for sho' if it worked on xbox as well. It is unfortunate that I am in the market for an xbox only wheel (already have a ps3/pc only wheel). :nervous:

We need to get some more info about the CSR / CSR Elite here. And knowing ISR it will be many weeks before they make a real video discussing the wheels. And worse case scenario, they will only talk bout the CSW :grumpy:



Note: Hm, the CSW-F1 rim has a very nice snap-back there. Very responsive and fast by the looks of it
 
When Jessica is on screen, my attention drops by 35%.

I think I know the reason, but still...

Any how, I assume the CSR-Elite is basically the same as the CSW aside from the quick release and ready to swap wheel rims. The snappiness that you see on the CSW should be be present on the CSR-Elite.
 
Yeah I'm very glad the latest batch of episodes features lots of Jessica camera time :dopey:

Good points!

Here are some questions I would like to see them answer to be specific:

- CSR vs GT2. Is it just the old GT2 internals given a new case? Does it feature more ffb? Is it built out of higher quality components?

- How do the CSR pedals feel? Good buy for the money? (* I'm sure its a great buy however, it would be cool to hear their opinions)

- CSR Elite- WILL there be an F1 rim available when it's released?? Is there a possibility we can use the CSW rims with it at all???

Maybe I should also post these questions at ISR.
 
@sandboxgod

From what I understood,
#1: CSR is basically similar to the GT2 with a few upgraded (hopefully less faulty) mechanics.

#2: Should probably ask Jessica.

#3: I'd think you still can, just not in XBox mode. Thomas did say that although the CSR Elite does not feature the Quick-Release mechanism, it is still fairly easy to change rims.
 
Ah that makes sense. I forgot the key issue was that the buttons on the CSW F1 rim does not fit within Microsoft's requirements....
 
bevo
All i know is, that if I turn my wheel all the way to the right, the cars tires turn all the way to the right. That leads me to believe that it has 900 degree steering. Now if those tires are actually doing anything with the road, I have no idea.

What is it in forza 3 that doesn't make the 900 work correctly?
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Here is one thing you can do for me that will prove my point. Have the car stopped and turn the wheel all the way. You'll notice that it does turn with the wheel correctly.

Now begin to drive in a circle looking back so you can see the front wheels. Drive somewhere around 30mph to be sure. When doing this do not let the front wheels slide and do not move the steering wheel.

Now what you are looking at is the front wheels will turn even tho you are not moving the wheel itself. The game does the same thing for a controller. It for some reason puts on steering assist which ruin it.:grumpy:

If you watch people drift in FM3 with 900 degree vs drifting in GT5 with 900 you can see that FM3 isn't correct in terms of the wheel position showing that it doesn't work properly. I hope they fix this in FM4 so bad.:indiff:





 

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