Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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KashunatoR
other difference between the CSR-E and the CSW is that the latter is software upgradable, which in time may be a big advantage
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I can update the firmware for my GT2, how would the CSR-Elite not be able to do the same as the CSW?

fyi- I have the 1.09 drivers in my GT2 as compared to the 1.10. I have tried both countless amounts of times and have to say mt GT2 works better with the 1.09 drivers. Wondered how others are doing with that?
 
I believe what KashunatoR meant was the software used to interface with the CSW on the PC, not the firmware on the CSW device itself. I remember Thomas mentioning that the CSW is for PC and PS3 only, but the flexibility level on the PC side is way higher.
 
Raymond_Tengen
I believe what KashunatoR meant was the software used to interface with the CSW on the PC, not the firmware on the CSW device itself. I remember Thomas mentioning that the CSW is for PC and PS3 only, but the flexibility level on the PC side is way higher.
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that's exactly what i meant, i had the pc in mind. sorry for the mistake, English is not my native language :)
 
Mr Latte
Just wanted to say my previous points are discusion, they are not to be seen as an attack or rant towards Fanatec.

X360 Support has always been approx $70-$80 difference in price from memory between Fanatec products. This also covered other features like back lighting in buttons, mic and wireless dongle support.

Why then am I scratching my head again when thinking about CSW Vs Elite?
If the Elite is $500 (E3 mumble) with X360 support and includes a full FM4 part alacantara rim.

How is the CSW with no rim, no X360 support and what basically seems a different colour only $50 less.
(what are we missing?)

Surely the base price for the CSW chassis should be closer to $400.
Even a $100 difference would seem more fair regards having X360 support and the full rim included. The $50 difference is just bonkers unless the CSW has other benifits, yet we have been told the chassis are the same spec.

Sorry I fail to see how its right to charge approx $70-$80 for X360 support in some product lines yet only have $50 difference in annother and then also reducing nothing for a FM4 wheel rim.

Perhaps yes Im too observant but such should be addressed.
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I suspect the price differentail your expecting is absorbed by the quick release mechanism(QRM) on the CSW wheel.. This QRM afaik is not on the CSR E Elite wheel which comes with a rim!! otherwise the delta could be more in line with your expectations...

So once again in my eyes, Fanatec appear to have failed in that, Why if I want xbox and multiplatform support, do I have to settle for no QRM?

This strategy confuses me.. I want one wheel base "to rule them all" ..then my choice of rim i.e. forza xbox rim (makes the wheel xbox compatible!), F1 rim, GT Rim... ohh go on and make the audi R15 rim then :)

Is it a technical or license limitation? or just so they can later bring out another version of the CSW with Xbox support (like the alcantera RS wheels (PC and PS3) to GT2(Multiplatform))

Why not put the Xbox electronics in the RIM rather than the wheel then you could have the CSW and buy an XBOX version of the rim (Elite RIM).. Better yet make it a pluggable module on a QRM Wheel..

I so want this wheel but if it's not Multiplatform with QRM I might have to wait for the gen 2 !!
 
Yeah thomas says the CSW violates Microsoft's technical requirements specifications since you can only supply xbox compatible buttons. I dunno about the csw F1 rim but I do know real F1 rims have like 20 or so buttons.

* This sucks for xbox users cause they will not have access to the most powerful wheels.

Fanatec goal is for their rims to be able to be used on real cars btw so I can see why Microsoft's restrictions would get in his way (Thomas explained this to us at virtualr)
 
gslooney
I suspect the price differentail your expecting is absorbed by the quick release mechanism(QRM) on the CSW wheel
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The way I see it, is that all the QR mechanics are on the rim. As it has been said, that elite and CSW base' are the same, the QR price should only be included in the wheel rim, but Thomas is the only one who knows.
 
Earlier I asked if the QRM was part of the Chassis which you attach to whatever rim you buy. That wasnt confirmed and it seems the QRM is on the actual wheel rim with each wheel rim having its own. So for the CSW chassis their is no reason to assume part of the price is for the QRM.

The shaft of the Elite/CSW are almost identical as I highlighted and Fanatec confirmed CSE Elite is attached via 2x screws but can be removed.

Now what we dont know yet is if and it is possible the Elite could have its own additional rims with X360 support and approval.
I do know that more surprises are coming but no idea to what they are.

He's laughing right now at us..... :)
 
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EDIT: After countless hours of tightening, and plugging in. With Allen Key's imprinted on finger tips, the mighty Load Cell showed a sign of power, and all is well again!
 
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crispychicken49
EDIT: After countless hours of tightening, and plugging in. With Allen Key's imprinted on finger tips, the mighty Load Cell showed a sign of power, and all is well again!
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huh? Do you have one of the new wheels for testing (thread title)? I thought they were not available at this time!
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I'm so lost on all the acronyms that I have no clue if anything is available or being tested by volunteers for Fanatec? Can you tell us more?
 
Patrocles
huh? Do you have one of the new wheels for testing (thread title)? I thought they were not available at this time!
:dunce:
I'm so lost on all the acronyms that I have no clue if anything is available or being tested by volunteers for Fanatec? Can you tell us more?
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He probably just replaced his load cell on his CSP, but is so happy about it that announces it in several threads.
 
Great News!!!

So with news of new beta testers needed (which is a good thing) for the Elite wheel it perhaps sheds some light onto the release window.

Info Here

The test period lasts upto the 15th of October with an embargo in place regards reviews to that date. So it would seem deliveries of the Elite wheel could go out around this time or before the end of October? Nothing concrete in this but it would be great if shipments went out around the FM4 launch period.
 
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bumer
He probably just replaced his load cell on his CSP, but is so happy about it that announces it in several threads.
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boooo! that guy needs to get with the program! I was stoked for some first-hand info on these upcoming items.
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scoddee
God love Crispy but he can come off with the most random thoughts and presumptions.

Scotty
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Oh, that made everyone in the room laugh right there.

Mr Latte
Great News!!!

So with news of new beta testers needed (which is a good thing) for the Elite wheel it perhaps sheds some light onto the release window.

Info Here

The test period lasts upto the 15th of October with an embargo in place regards reviews to that date. So it would seem deliveries of the Elite wheel could go out around this time or before the end of October? Nothing concrete in this but it would be great if shipments went out around the FM4 launch period.
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So anyone can become a Beta tester right? Or is it only open for people like ISR and stuff like that.

Besides that I think it would be great if they could release the wheel around the FM4 time frame.

EDIT: I also updated the OP with a video and information on the Beta Testing.
 
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As Thomas couldn't resist, here's a first peek at a new GT-style wheel rim.

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Rest of the pictures of a CSW on his blog
 
Damn, I cant deside if I should go for CSW or CSR E. This is sim-porn.

Finally a real racing wheel, no toy, a real wheel. Now we just have to see and feel how it works on the end product.

They also show the new pedals. CSR pedals maybe?

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bumer
They look more like CSR E pedals.
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What pedals?
Actually its hard to tell and the only look we got of the CSE ELITE was on the ISR report from E3.

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If they are making ELITE WHEELS for the pre launch Beta phase chances are they are making ELITE pedals...
 
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I think they are CSR Elite pedals. If you watched photos/videos from E3, you could see those there and Thomas specifically said that "standard" CSR pedals were not shown yet. There heas been some confusion about this in the ISR video, if I remember correctly.
 
I thought they showed the CSR with the Orange/Red and coloured Springs?
Maybe these are just colour differences, eh and we know their are further surprises to come soon...

Perhaps though Black & Silver with Silver springs I reckon mean its ELITE
Just a guess looking at the above video.

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Theyve been clever what to show and tease us.
However ISR really do tend to play us. Almost in a way of assuming types of roles on these presentations and by what they say or pretend might be then saying it might not. I think sometimes they know a lot more than they let on but its all part of the timing and entertainment of the show.
 
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Mr. Latte, I would have assume those are differing strength springs. Such is the case with the ClubSport Pedal Tuning Kit. Maybe the pedal come with various spring sets?
 
Nice catch, but I think these two sets of pedals look exactly the same. The only differences are setup (brake&clutch pedals are reversed in he first picture) and color. Here's a picture of silver pedals in reversed position:
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I still think we have not seen CSR pedals. They will have to be simpler (and most importantly) more affordable (close to price of current standard pedals?).
 
Well we could expect the same thinking behind the pedals as with the CSR and CSRE wheels. Possibility of a plastic and a full metal option perhaps?

Ive just got a gut feeling more is to come...
Also the current standard pedals have been it seems, problematic and yes could be phased out by a new/better option.
 
No you have not seen the CSR pedals yet but I think I should make a video to introduce all the new pedals and show the differences.

More to come on the sim-porn channel.
 
Dun, dun, dunnnn!

Please Thomas yes a super fanstic pedal video and then do a sequel of it as sequels are more popular!!!
 
Forgive my ignorance, what is the "R" for in CSR (obviously NOT Customer Service Representative). ClubSport ____ ?
 
CSR stands for ...

CSR

This time it is actually not an acronym. It is a separate product line between the Porsche and the Clubsport line.
 

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