Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Fanatec...
No you have not seen the CSR pedals yet but I think I should make a video to introduce all the new pedals and show the differences.

More to come on the sim-porn channel.
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Yes, very good idea :)
Please tell us in that video the release dates (so if we can order the CSR E P inverted pedals together with the CSW) and the prices :)
 
gslooney
I suspect the price differentail your expecting is absorbed by the quick release mechanism(QRM) on the CSW wheel.. This QRM afaik is not on the CSR E Elite wheel which comes with a rim!! otherwise the delta could be more in line with your expectations...

So once again in my eyes, Fanatec appear to have failed in that, Why if I want xbox and multiplatform support, do I have to settle for no QRM?

This strategy confuses me.. I want one wheel base "to rule them all" ..then my choice of rim i.e. forza xbox rim (makes the wheel xbox compatible!), F1 rim, GT Rim... ohh go on and make the audi R15 rim then :)

Is it a technical or license limitation? or just so they can later bring out another version of the CSW with Xbox support (like the alcantera RS wheels (PC and PS3) to GT2(Multiplatform))

Why not put the Xbox electronics in the RIM rather than the wheel then you could have the CSW and buy an XBOX version of the rim (Elite RIM).. Better yet make it a pluggable module on a QRM Wheel..

I so want this wheel but if it's not Multiplatform with QRM I might have to wait for the gen 2 !!
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im with you. I'm looking for something to replace my G27 so i can play Forza & GT5 / F1 2011 on my PS3 & R Factor 2 on PC (if it is ever relased). Thomas said in the video the base is almost the same for the CSR Elite and the CSW base minus the quick release. So what gives with no compatibility with the 360... :confused::confused::confused:
 
bumer
Thomas has said, that Microsoft allows only certain number of buttons and joysticks. So there's your problem.
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hmm, is there any place we could voice our opinion to maybe have a quick release compatible wheel for the 360 then. It would cost the consumer more but i'm sure most that are considering have a Fanatec for PS3 and 360, would at least like the option to have the CSR Elite AND the ClubSport Wheel
 
Wel, Quick release or not you can still change the wheel. I think THomas said it was still fairly easy without the Quick release. Plus the wheels themselves are the ones with Quick Release, not the Base.
 
Somebody might find a way of adapting the wheel and making a quick release for it.
Lets wait to hear more user comments regards how good the Elite wheel rim is. We all seem to be paying attention to the CSW rims and maybe not giving the Elite the attention it deserves.

Sonac, you had some great photos from Gamescom, would you upload them to this thread?
 
Mr Latte
Somebody might find a way of adapting the wheel and making a quick release for it.
Lets wait to hear more user comments regards how good the Elite wheel rim is. We all seem to be paying attention to the CSW rims and maybe not giving the Elite the attention it deserves.

Sonac, you had some great photos from Gamescom, would you upload them to this thread?
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Speaking of which have the Beta testers been announced yet?
 
BLACK86
so they could just have a xbox wheel on the csw? then you could switch wheels to the f1 or gt
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THIS + 1 MILLION ! ! !

Mr Latte
Somebody might find a way of adapting the wheel and making a quick release for it.
Lets wait to hear more user comments regards how good the Elite wheel rim is. We all seem to be paying attention to the CSW rims and maybe not giving the Elite the attention it deserves.

Sonac, you had some great photos from Gamescom, would you upload them to this thread?
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Yea i was planning to buy the CSR Elite but as soon as i saw the CSW i didnt want the CSR Elite anymore :lol:

But your right, the quick release really isnt such a big deal if the Elite can switch wheels too, as long as there that F1 Style Wheel that will work with the Elite. 💡

Lots of questions :)
 
Mr Latte
We all seem to be paying attention to the CSW rims and maybe not giving the Elite the attention it deserves.
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I agree, but its also caused by the fact that they have given plenty info on the CSW, but not so much on the CSR-E.
 
@Mr Latte: I agree that ever since CSW was introduced, CSR Elite isn't getting enough attention. I would rather not spam this thread with a bunch of big photos, so I'll just paste the first one and you can check out other ones here.
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@ZSPaulus: We got some of information about the CSR Elite at E3 and also most of information about the Clubsport wheel applies to CSR Elite because they share the same base. Can't wait to see ISR's Gamescom footage. I hope they upload it soon.
 
The csr e is the forza wheel right?
Is it possible microsoft has the reigns in marketing and information flow regarding that wheel?
 
Yeah ISR is weeks behind (just like with E3). I see they just posted up the f1 2011 footage from Gamescom.

I guess no one is in any big hurry to advertise these wheels in full since they are months away from the market. Let's keep it real, Fanatec knows this is true since beta testing doesnt finish til Oct 15th at best and that's just the CSR Elite testing. This obviously serves the long term good of everyone getting a finished product.

But FM 4 is just a few weeks away and it's looking pretty tasty. I might have to bite. and if i do I will want a wheel. But I'm no huge hurry atm with the t8rs shifter and a slew of games my christmas wish list is pretty packed 👍
 
bumer
Thomas has said, that Microsoft allows only certain number of buttons and joysticks. So there's your problem.
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So basically tri-platform gamers cant have the absolute best because Microsoft are a bunch D-Bags. This really is quite upsetting, I'm now seriously considering not bothering with Forza or racing on the XBox at all for stupidity like this.


Besides the slight rant, I have a question for Thomas. You've told us that the CSR-Elite rim will be removable and therefore interchangeable. Will the normal Clubsport rims be compatible? For example, can the Clubsport GT rim be attached to the CSR-E base (obviously not via quick release but the two screws instead), or will there be a separate line of rims for the Elite? Inquiring minds want to know Thomas!
 
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tribolik were you being sarcastic? CSR Elite is compatible with all consoles as well as the CSR. CSW is PC/PS3 only
 
Since the CSR Elite and the CSW both have the same base , maybe we can convince Fanatec / Thomas to create a wheel for the CSW that will work with xbox.

It doesnt look like its a hardware limitation on Fanatec's part , just a rule that M$ put on them. So why cant the CSW Base work with 360 with just a wheel with less buttons then.
Not that i dont like the CSR Elite, I was going to buy that until they showed the CSW but im not really a fan of the Elite's forza logo and painted red.:yuck:

plus, from what i understand the CSW has the ability for upgraded firmware in the future ?

edit: how many people use the H pattern with their wheels? I dont use mine with the clutch unless im playing GT5 or Dirt 3 in single player. GT5 online and in F1 i use the paddles. Anyway who thinks a sequential gear shifter would be awsome, just like in a lot of GT cars / Rally cars. The same style as the E Brake add on but moves forward and backwards
 
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I use my gated shifter when driving road cars/racecars that have gated shifters on consoles and pc. I was hoping to get to test, but it looks like the 1st batch might've already went out for testing :(
 
bermudakid
Since the CSR Elite and the CSW both have the same base , maybe we can convince Fanatec / Thomas to create a wheel for the CSW that will work with xbox.

It doesnt look like its a hardware limitation on Fanatec's part , just a rule that M$ put on them. So why cant the CSW Base work with 360 with just a wheel with less buttons then.
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For a while I was hoping this would be the plan. But knowing what we do now its not gonna happen, unless something changes in the future.
 
sonac
@Mr Latte: I agree that ever since CSW was introduced, CSR Elite isn't getting enough attention
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Regards FM4 or other X360 games something like the GT rim may of been nice and could perhaps feel a bit better in the hand.
However, even if the CSW did work with X360 or FM4 it would still only support the normal buttons and not the additional features of the new CSW Rims.

What does matter however is how precise, smooth and strong the wheel and its FFB is during gameplay. How will the gear changes feel and what are the benefits the CSR Elite will bring over the GT2/PWTS and future CSR wheels? Lets remember one of the reasons to get X360 support for many primarily will be the "Forza Franchise" as X360 has very few other quality exclusive racing titles now.

The CSR Elite will be the best way to experience playing the game. Many people (including myself) bought the T500RS for GT5 as it at the time would give the best performance for that game. Why however do we not see the same excitment so far with the Elite as really this offers the same thing but for the Forza series.

Not that many moaned much about the rim of the T500RS, even though its rubber it seemed a bit of an issue only for some. The Elite wheel's rim doesnt look any worse than the T500RS in my opinion and if anything even more comfortable, whod agree?

I cant wait to see how Fanatec have developed things and even to compare to the T500RS which I have no doubts Thomas personally wanted to improve over.

Time to focus on just how darn good FM4 and this wheel might be for X360 console owners.
 
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tribolik
Nope its a F from Fanatec... the elite is only PS3 and PC compatible... if the Elite is the one with the F1 rim... maybe I got it wrong...
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You got it wrong ;)
Clubsport (csw) is the f1rim with quick release. Ps/pc

Csr elite is forzas wheel. Xbox/ps/pc
Removeable rim. No quick release.

Both have essentially the same base.

Csr will be built around the porsche line minus the porsche branding. Ps/pc only.

I think whats. Right wit the standard csr wheel anyway.
 
Caz
You got it wrong ;)
Clubsport (csw) is the f1 with quick release
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:embarrassed::dunce::dunce::dunce::ouch: thanks I stand corrected... the elite is a CSR with a CSW base and a CSR rim in carbon... :dunce:

I wonder if the base is the same why cant they make a CRW for XBOX :odd:
 
tribolik
Elite is the new chassis in red/black with the carbon fibre effect FM4 rim.
Gees lets not go down that "oh why cant they" path again.....
 
tribolik
:embarrassed::dunce::dunce::dunce::ouch: thanks I stand corrected... the elite is a CSR with a CSW base and a CSR rim in carbon... :dunce:

I wonder if the base is the same why cant they make a CRW for XBOX :odd:
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All good ;)

The xbox compat. Issue has been beaten to death. Probably even in this thread. In short its a microsoft thing.

Latte beat me to it ;)

From a few days ago, a couple pages back in this thread.
sandboxgod
Yeah thomas ( ceo of fanatec ....caz)says the CSW violates Microsoft's technical requirements specifications since you can only supply xbox compatible buttons.

* This sucks for xbox users cause they will not have access to the most powerful wheels.
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