Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

[bermudakid]

yea you are right, i dont think there was as much excitement of the T500RS. The Price point immediately pushed me away also i already owned a G27. for 500+ $ & only PS3 compatibility is a deal breaker.

i always wanted one of the Roso F1 wheels modded for the G27, but at almost 1000$ US. thats crazy
http://www.zroso.com/index/

 

[tribolik]

tribolik
Elite is the new chassis in red/black with the carbon fibre effect FM4 rim.
Gees lets not go down that "oh why cant they" path again.....

Im very sorry for not reading all the pages on this thread...

All good

The xbox compat. Issue has been beaten to death. Probably even in this thread. In short its a microsoft thing.

Latte beat me to it

From a few days ago, a couple pages back in this thread.

(...)the CSW violates Microsoft's technical requirements specifications since you can only supply xbox compatible buttons.(...)

Short and simple

Thank you very much now Im enlighten... curious as I am I would probably ask again until someone was nice enought to explain it 👍

If its a button thing my guess is that someone will probably figure out a way to use the custom rims on the Elite sooner or later with some simple modding...

 

[jabofu]

Im very sorry for not reading all the pages on this thread...



Short and simple

Thank you very much now Im enlighten... curious as I am I would probably ask again until someone was nice enought to explain it 👍

If its a button thing my guess is that someone will probably figure out a way to use the custom rims on the Elite sooner or later with some simple modding...

The CSR Elite wheel can be used with the other rims, Fanatec will offer. There is no quick-release, but you can change the rims on it.

The CSR Elite and CSW are very similar and the differences are the xbox compatibility for the CSR Elite and the quick-release of the CSW.

Asking to get a CSW with XBOX compatibility is irrational, because there is the CSR Elite.

 

[ZSPaulus]

Nope its a F from Fanatec... the elite is only PS3 and PC compatible... if the Elite is the one with the F1 rim... maybe I got it wrong...

If you wouldnt state all the nonsense as if it where a fact; people might react a bit nicer. A small "i think" is more then sufficient.

The CSR Elite wheel can be used with the other rims, Fanatec will offer. There is no quick-release, but you can change the rims on it.

The CSR Elite and CSW are very similar and the differences are the xbox compatibility for the CSR Elite and the quick-release of the CSW.

Asking to get a CSW with XBOX compatibility is irrational, because there is the CSR Elite.

Very nicely summarized the content of the discussion.

Question for Thomas: For the CSR-E: Will we only be able to use wheel rims offered by fanatec? (Because they have the (Xbox)buttons on the wheel face.) Or can we also buy a rim oureselves and use that? How would we use it without any buttons?
Maybe its an idea to have MS buttonbox so you can use a wheel without any buttons, but still have them on a seperate box next to the wheelbase.

 

[Mr Latte]

Im very sorry for not reading all the pages on this thread...

Oh come on, I was only trying to help as their is confusion with the 3 wheels and now various rims.

 

[jabofu]

Oh come on, I was only trying to help as their is confusion with the 3 wheels and now various rims.

Feature comparison between Clubsport Wheel and CSR Elite Wheel

ClubSport wheel (CSW)

about 450 without rim
different rims will be available from 150 USD upwards
metal base as seen in video
PC and PS3 only
QR system with many more wheel rims to come (Fanatec system)
supports additional axis, encoder switches etc.
rev indicator bar

Forza Motorsport CSR Elite wheel (CSR E)

500 USD incl wheel rim
same metal base as the CSW
PC, PS3 and X360
No QR but wheel rims can be easily replaced if you prefer a different rim style
Amount of buttons and axis are limited to what the gaming consoles support
no rev indicator bar

Source: fanatecwheel.com (fan-project)

 

[Caz]

And now it seems confusion about the confusion

 

[Fanatec...]

Looks like there is a demand for a video to explain the difference. I will shoot that this week to make things more clear.

 

[ZSPaulus]

Perhaps you could also devote some of the video's time to explain how the CSR-E would work if you change the rim..

Most important is offcourse the releasedate!

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Looks like there is a demand for a video to explain the difference. I will shoot that this week to make things more clear.

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Is the CSR-E available without FM badging?

 

[Caz]

Looks like there is a demand for a video to explain the difference. I will shoot that this week to make things more clear.

Is that fanatec time
Just playin.

Cant wait to see it and the hidden surprises sure to be in as well. Like maybe oh i dunno..... the shifter or the handbrake being ps3 compatable.

I need an excuse to give you more dollars.

 

[Timppaq]

Looks like there is a demand for a video to explain the difference. I will shoot that this week to make things more clear.

Looking forward to that 👍

 

[sandboxgod]

In the video for the CSR Elite, can you cover Fanatec's plan for an f1 rim? When it launches, in particular I am concerned there will be no f1 rim available. Thus far- you've only been showing the CSW.

Also I wonder when will the CSR non-elite be discussed in more detail?

And realistically, I wonder when US buyers can expect the new Fanatec lineup to hit the store? Right, I dont expect a direct answer here but you know what I'm saying I hope its January or so

Xbox Market

The new mad catz ffb wheel will be like $200 I think they quoted. For just a bit more, a gamer can have a nice CSR Wheel for just $100 or so more. When the product is ready, I think we should get a video of course describing it in detail. In particular, I want to see the new brakes. I read its load cell for brakes but pots for all else. Sounds like it will be a very nice product so more details and photos would be welcome

True Component setup

Also, perhaps Fanatec should consider making the brakes truly 'componentized' whereas it can be used with other vendors whereas it just plugs in via USB on Consoles. Look at Thrustmaster for example. I'm not trying to be messy. But I think that's the right way to go- make it so we can mix'n'match equipment as we please. I'd love to use those CSPs with my t500rs on a PS3. I realize the goal is to no doubt to crush all competition completely but that's just something to keep in mind. People are already doing this on the PC but surely the PS3 at least can support this.

Software Upgrades for CSW?

And of course you need to go into more detail about the CSW's feature for software upgrades? What does this mean? Surely you dont mean just firmware can be upgraded since even your high quality existing wheels have that.

Inventory concerns

Also I saw those production shots you disclosed whereas we can see the factory making the products. That looks very complex! I can't help but wonder about how reliable everything will be. But with Darrin from ISR on the case I'm not overly concerned about support or anything like that. But what I'm getting at is I bet you can't make those wheels super fast. I hope US inventory will be able to handle the demand

And of course I hope these new products will be very successful.

 

[Pdreams]

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Is the CSR-E available without FM badging?

I had asked the same question in another thread and the reply given by one of the forumers was

"Couldn't you cover it with a sticker or something that you like?"

It seems now there is another person just like me.

 

[sandboxgod]

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Is the CSR-E available without FM badging?

Hi Dave, if I recall correctly you're not a big Forza fan if at all. So what you'd want is the more powerful CSW. The Clubsport wheel is a little cheaper and is the way to go if you do not care for xbox compat.

Checkout Thomas's youtube vid. 👍

* Also it lacks the Forza branding so that's right up your alley

edit: wait did yall tell me over & over CSW is more expensive, wheel base + rim = 450 + 150? My bad for the redundant fail

 

[bumer]

Could someone point me where has Thomas told that Fanatec will be making different rims for CSR E. So far I've read only Thomas saying that it is possible to change the rim, but I haven't seen him saying anywhere that they will make different rims for it. Have I missed it?

 

[sandboxgod]

No I don't think he's confirmed or denied it. The 'clue' though is that the rims are easily removable as Mr Latte elaborated.

Now to think of it, I don't think I want to blow away that much money anyways right off the bat for an f1 rim. I still want to see him cover these differences in more firm detail. I want to see more footage of that "worm drive" too and find out what's up with the new brakes.

 

[bumer]

I want to see more footage of that "worm drive" too and find out what's up with the new brakes.

As Thomas said in his CSW video, it isn't a worm drive as we know it, but just a limiter.

 

[sandboxgod]

yeah I'd just like to see it motion a bit more. like put the camera up to while someone drives. Also let's see them drive on some dirt with FFB turned up. 👍

 

[scoddee]

thanks I stand corrected... the elite is a CSR with a CSW base and a CSR rim in carbon...

I wonder if the base is the same why cant they make a CRW for XBOX

CRW ??? CRW ??? Really ? Some might think I'm harping on a typo, but that would assume you are paying attention and meant to say the right thing, "CSW". I don't.

p.s. add a couple more dunce caps to your post

p.s.s. Upon reflection I guess this post is just me being

Scotty

 

[Jump_Ace]

CSR stands for ...

CSR

This time it is actually not an acronym. It is a separate product line between the Porsche and the Clubsport line.

CSR obviously stands for

Can't
Stop
Racing

CSW

Can't
Stop
Winning

I thought everyone knew that

They took that beta tester site down fast, it's not a valid link anymore

Jerome

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I'm interested in the "new" wheel with the toothless belt and "worm drive", the clear cased wheel. That's the Elite, no?

The other wheel from ISR's E3 session with Thomas, looks basically like a redressed GT2. That's the CSW (ClubSport Wheel)

 

[Crispy]

They took that beta tester site down fast, it's not a valid link anymore

Jerome

Probably because they're going to select the Beta Testers now. If we aren't picked we can always try again when they make a second round.

 

[scoddee]

I'm interested in the "new" wheel with the toothless belt and "worm drive", the clear cased wheel. That's the Elite, no?

The other wheel from ISR's E3 session with Thomas, looks basically like a redressed GT2. That's the CSW (ClubSport Wheel)

No that's not the Clubsport Wheel, that's the CSR (period) wheel. The CSW has all the Elite goodies plus Quick Release Rim and minus X360 support.

Scotty

 

[sandboxgod]

@Dave, both the CSW and CSR Elite fit that description. Been awhile since I've seen the ISR's E3 footage but that sounds like the cheaper CSR wheel which looks like a redressed gt2.

^^ got tree'd by 3 mins

 

[bumer]

I'm interested in the "new" wheel with the toothless belt and "worm drive", the clear cased wheel. That's the Elite, no?

CSR Elite and CSW are the same wheel base-wise (first is orange-black, the other is all black). The one that looks like redressed GT2 is CSR.

EDIT: Dammit, others were faster.

 

[scoddee]

.... If we aren't picked we can always try again when they make a second round.

What....did I miss something ? Have they announced a second round or is this another assumption stated as fact you're sorta famous (In my mind anyway) for ? LOL

Scotty

EDIT: OK Crispy, can you help me pull my foot out of my mouth

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Thanks Scotty and Sandbox and Burner. Yes, Sandbox I am very anti M$. But anyway...

I did find Thomas' original video presenting the CSW (has Fanatec F logo). The GTP app does not have an embed feature for posting YouTube videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgnxlWXs_CY&sns=em

 

[bumer]

They took that beta tester site down fast, it's not a valid link anymore

Jerome

Are you sure? At least update 2 states that:

Thanks for the tremendous response. We only have a very few wheels available but the enourmous amount of interest convinced me to make a second round with more testers. Keep posting.

 

[Crispy]

I added a Read OP to the title to try and clear up confusion. I am all correct on the data right Thomas?

Also, with the second Beta test going on, does that mean we will have to repost on to the topic over at 911wheel.com, or if we weren't picked you'll consider our original post.

EDIT: Thomas, I just noticed that you've posted in this thread 51 times.