Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

[Jump_Ace]

I'm thinking its a bogus link

A generic google search brings me to:

http://www.911wheel.de/?q=node/1154

Page takes forever to load so they must be getting slammed.

EDIT: Now I wait for the activation email. Fingers crossed, but we all know the odds are stacked against me

*slips Thomas $20*

Jerome

 

[paskowitz]

Has the selection process begun?

 

[TheDabbinDave]

CSR Elite - Community testers wanted! UPDATE2

http://www.911wheel.de/?q=node/6175

 

[12thgear]

OK, this is exciting news. Check out how the wheel can be exchanged on the CSR Elite. Starts at the 5 minute mark:

 

[Gabkicks]

New video So CSR elite will have different wheels, but not as easy to exchange wheels; "no quick release".

It would've been nice to get into the beta but i'll definitely be buying one.

 

[bermudakid]

SOO SICK! cant wait to get one. Thx Thomas for the update.

definitely need a F1 Wheel style for the CSR Elite ! ! ! ! !

And now i want that Audi Wheel for the CSW too !


i bet someone will be able to mod the CSW to work with 360.

 

[Richvw]

Thanks for the vid 12thgear .

That's great info on the Elite. As for the different rims, just more leather or alcantara is all that is required, shiny plastic makes it look cheaper and less high end. A GT rim would be a nice touch.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Thomas, with greatly improved [wheel] hardware internals, what have you done with software to take advantage of the coding in GT5 that the T500 uses?

Game compatibility is a MAJOR issue with the T500. Will the CSW & CSR Elite suffer this same fate? Such as, when the wheel encounters a game which causes the T500 to go limp. Will the new Fanatec wheels do the same? Or will the Fanatec wheels then utilize G25 emulation as the Porsche 911 lineup does?

 

[Fanatec...]

So far we had no compatibility issues with our Porsche wheels so the new wheels will not be worse of course.

The CSR E is fully backwards compatible and all shifters attached to it will be backwards compatible as well.

 

[sandboxgod]

Nice those new wheels look fast and strong. You can tell those guys in that video are struggling against very strong FFB.

I was worried this Andre Nee guy (interviewer) would screw up the interview with a bunch of bad questions but it came out quite well. Thomas helped him out quite a bit though by supplying all the info he knew we'd want to hear like further confirmations about the CSS, etc

Good luck on catching up with Mr. T. I told you it wasn't a good idea to let your employees run amok representing your company didnt I

 

[Caz]

All shifters attached to it? Will it have both a ps2 and usb port? Or will usb cabled shifters be able to use an adaptor.

To be blunt. Will act/ frex/ tm shifters work while plugged into the wheel. Console specific question obviously as pc can use any combo of peripheral.

Stuff looks great!!!!

 

[bumer]

And now i want that Audi Wheel for the CSW too !

You probably can if you have extra $17000.

 

[Mr Latte]

Enjoyed that video and I like the charisma/fun side to these more laid back interviews. Nice of Andre too and hope he still got to enjoy his Birthday.

Im not sure what the market may be for changable rims on the Elite but it is great to hear Fanatec will look to do more if the demand is thier. Personally I think most people would want the CSW rims or that level of "Real Motorsport" type quality. Its not just about the shape. What makes it sexy is the "Quick Release" and hot switching with the real wheel look and feel. That isnt possible with X360 buttons and while new shapes of wheels may appeal to some having one of those, that still kinda looks like a toy/console wheel isnt really the answer perhaps?

Discuss if you want or what you think guys and help give Thomas feedback.

Did you notice that Mr T is out their, watching us, lurking around, maybe he has a plan...
Looks like we havnt seen/heard the last of him.

Edit:
As for the CSW GT rim could it be modelled after the "Audi R8 GT" is their an Audi connection or perhaps something more like Porsche 997 cars use in the GT series Championships?

Note to Thomas: "Enjoy the Pasta"

 

[bumer]

As for the CSW GT rim could it be modelled after the "Audi R8 GT" ?

Thomas probably won't answer this question until he reveals it fully some time in the middle of the month.
Personally my guess is no, because as far as I know, R8 GT is more of a street car not a true racing car, but the wheel is the racing one. So my guess is more like BMW M3 (GTR or ALMS) or something more like it.

 

[mika haka]

see at the end with the audi wheel the shifter on the left looked metal. I know its not the clubsport shifter but what is it, and can we buy it?

 

[Mr Latte]

New Feature Comparison
Sorry just grabbed a screenshot.
Also from the video I caught that Thomas stated the "CSE Elites Carbon Fibre is REAL not Fake" so it isnt some carbon effect sticker just placed over the CSR version!

 

[mimaximax]

see at the end with the audi wheel the shifter on the left looked metal. I know its not the clubsport shifter but what is it, and can we buy it?

It is probably the new CSR shifter set.

"The shifter is based on the old Porsche shifters but the knob is pure metal and feels heavy and solid. We also made it less noisy but kept the good tactile feedback."

 

[mikemav]

Did anyone else notice in the Audi wheel coverage @ the end of the video, that white rig had two Xbox 360 controllers placed in it on the right hand side? But this wheel had the quick release and no Xbox button, so it was the CSW base for sure. Just wondering why there would be Xbox controllers on a rig which isn't supposed to be Xbox compatible? Not trying to add to the confusion here. I know ideally most would want the CSW to be Xbox compatible, but it's been made clear that isn't happening. Just seemed odd to see 360 stuff on that rig therefore.

Still, nice to know the Elite can have different rims as a possibility. I was still hoping for a CSW rim which might be a bit more costly but would add 360 compatibility to the rim itself. I know it wouldn't have all the features (rev meter, analog stick) which M$ doesn't allow, but it would only be used to play 360 games, and then use the same CSW base to switch to full featured rims for PC sims, so we only need one base to serve them all. If that's not possible however the Elite w/ removable rim is still better than no option at all.

 

[tribolik]

Did anyone else notice in the Audi wheel coverage @ the end of the video, that white rig had two Xbox 360 controllers placed in it on the right hand side... But this wheel had the quick release and no Xbox button, so it was the CSW base. Just wondering why there would be Xbox controllers on a rig which isn't supposed to be Xbox compatible. Not trying to add to the confusion here, I know ideally most would want the CSW to be Xbox compatible but it's been made clear that isn't happening. Just seemed odd to see 360 stuff on that rig therefore.

It had 3 to be more precise - 1 on the left and 2 on the right...
Arent Xbox controlers PC compatible?

Besides from what I read in regards of that cockpit it comes with 3 PS3, 3 Xbox and Im not sure if it comes with a PC...

 

[Caz]

It had 3 to be more precise - 1 on the left and 2 on the right...
Arent Xbox controlers PC compatible?

Besides from what I read in regards of that cockpit it comes with 3 PS3, 3 Xbox and Im not sure if it comes with a PC...

No pc included. But the base has enough room to allow for one.

 

[sandboxgod]

New Feature Comparison
Sorry just grabbed a screenshot.
Also from the video I caught that Thomas stated the "CSE Elites Carbon Fibre is REAL not Fake" so it isnt some carbon effect sticker just placed over the CSR version!

Yeah the CSW seems much more powerful than the CSR Elite I must say. It just seems to have all those sexy bells & whistles sim racers demand.

* Sucks FM 4 is xbox only cause I'd still rather have the CSW is the way I'm feeling right now. No f1 rim being manufactured and big question marks if it will be made. Starting to think screw fm 4 once again and strive to one day acquire this wheel because I'm seeing massive raw potential to it. I could honestly use 2 wheels anyway for the family but I want the best

 

[BLACK86]

you know what, i think im going to sack off serious racing on the xbox, really like the csw and im starting to get into pc sims, ps3 i play gt5, and to be honest i havent played on forza three for ages because i was put off witht the auto steering....maybe i will wait to see if forza4 has the auto steering then make a decision. if it has then imo xbox hasnt got a serious enough racer game to warrant a high end wheel.

edit: looking at the clip of the csre spinning it was no where near t500 speed, if csw turns out like this too i may just get a t500, unless the feel of the csw is far superior

 

[bumer]

edit: looking at the clip of the csre spinning it was no where near t500 speed, if csw turns out like this too i may just get a t500, unless the feel of the csw is far superior

Why do you want it to spin hyper fast if you are probably not able to spin it that fast by yourself anyway. It should be better enough compared to current Porsche wheel lineup and that is probably enough.

 

[Fanatec...]

Exacly, I mean what is the point to have a wheel which spins so fast that you have no idea anymore where you stop it when you grab it. The new wheels are certainly fast enough for drifters and better feeling is good for all type of simracers.

 

[mikemav]

I agree. Speed (especially judging visually) isn't nearly as important as feel anyway, and the new direct drive sensor seems to have wowed so far based on some comments I heard from Shaun Cole (who of course is also very familiar with the T500 as well.) I think people will need to judge it by use or proper reviews and not based on casual videos, but of course we need to wait until we can get our hands on them first.

 

[sandboxgod]

Yeah I noticed it doesn't seem as fast either (as I pointed out a few pages back). Not certain if it's stronger ffb as well.

having very fast wheel speed is nice in a few cases. just let go of the wheel and it snaps back. I didnt think it would be a big deal until I got a chance to demo a t500rs then I was hooked and had to buy it*

Not very sure what I'm going to do yet in regards to wheels purchasing. But I'm still impressed by these new products and I'm eager to see comparisons.

To be clear, I'm more impressed by the quick release, analog stick, and replaceable rims the CSW has. TM has decided to focus instead on the shifter rather than making alternative wheel rims. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens! <- edit

 

[chromatic9]

My 2 year old PWTS is looking a bit jealous with these hot new models.

I'm another one who likes the CSW but has an Xbox and a bit gutted the CSR E is not as featured. The analog stick would be great on some games.

What is the situation with the Clubsport pedals? I'm always toying with the idea of buying them but is there a new better version coming?

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Exacly, I mean what is the point to have a wheel which spins so fast that you have no idea anymore where you stop it when you grab it. The new wheels are certainly fast enough for drifters and better feeling is good for all type of simracers.

Besides, the new Fanatec wheels still have on the fly adjustments. Drift mode makes it easier to spin (or whip) the wheel. The T500 relies on the games.

TBH, I am not impressed how the T500 feels in NASCAR The Game compared to GT5. NTG doesn't offer any wheel adjustments. This type of situation is when Fanatec's adjustments helps.

 

[BLACK86]

Why do you want it to spin hyper fast if you are probably not able to spin it that fast by yourself anyway. It should be better enough compared to current Porsche wheel lineup and that is probably enough.

thats not what im saying, im talking about back spin(when you turn the wheel and let go and the wheel flies back to center or opposite lock/end) ive always wanted aggressive back spin, and all the wheels i know of lacked it before i saw the t500. fast backspin happens in real life and when i saw the t500 it reminded me of my old non ps corolla which had mad aggressive backspin that used to make a massive THUD when it hit opposite lock end, i loved it.

to me fast back spin puts alot more realism into driving, to those that drive in real life, how many times have you let the wheel do the work and just slide through your hands, also when driving hard you can just slightly release your grip pressure mid bend to make the wheel turn the other way fast(small amount) to make minor corrections, or just before the wheel hits dead centre when coming out of a turn sometimes.

to be honest it really disappoints me when fanatec cant seem to implement it on their wheels, t500 has been out nearly ten months? however i dont know if fanatec could have changed their design ten months ago, they may have been too far into the making of the new range. that doesnt matter tho as they should have really had fastback spin anyway, i say this because the price of the wheels are so high, i could understand if the were cheaper but these are very very expensive wheels and fast backspin should be standard for such wheels.


fanatec/thomas what do you mean have no idea where to stop it because its spinning so fast? its just a learning curve like everything really, this fast backspin happens in real life so its not a bad thing to have it.

 

[BLACK86]

Besides, the new Fanatec wheels still have on the fly adjustments. Drift mode makes it easier to spin (or whip) the wheel. The T500 relies on the games.

TBH, I am not impressed how the T500 feels in NASCAR The Game compared to GT5. NTG doesn't offer any wheel adjustments. This type of situation is when Fanatec's adjustments helps.

the adjustments are excellent, the only problem with drift mode is it changes the forcefeedback.