Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Would it really be that difficult to reverse engineer the right bits from a TX wheel and make it possible?

I'm sure that Fanatec is on the phone to Logitech right now. "What!! You want us to do it ourselves?"
 
Would it really be that difficult to reverse engineer the right bits from a TX wheel and make it possible?

I have no doubt someone will be able to get it to work. But like logi said it would be like the adapter for 360 which you couldnt program buttons and no force feedback. Which is kinda useless for sim racing.


We would be better off creating a petition to microsoft to stop being a-holes and allow good products. And also show how many of us would buy xb1's and forza ect ect if we could use the wheel WE want. $$$ makes things happen.
 
Seeing all these CSW rims is a little infuriating as a CSR
Some amazing developments here.

Major props to Fanatec team 👍

I would be more impressed if they kept the more expensive CSR-E wheel supported and with some rim options (why no quick release?!?!). I have to admit I feel a bit ripped off for buying the CSR-E, if it wasn't for eKretz I'd have a different setup and I'll probably stay away from Fanatec for my next wheel purchase.


Jerome
 
Seeing all these CSW rims is a little infuriating as a CSR


I would be more impressed if they kept the more expensive CSR-E wheel supported and with some rim options (why no quick release?!?!). I have to admit I feel a bit ripped off for buying the CSR-E, if it wasn't for eKretz I'd have a different setup and I'll probably stay away from Fanatec for my next wheel purchase.


Jerome

It was already MS constraint that forces Fanatec to have two different wheels. I think if MS had accept that a xbox 360 wheel can have more buttons than a pad, and handle hot plug and play for the quick release, then the CSR Elite would not have existed.

But for sure CSR Elite like us are a little bit sad now, even if it is our choice not to go for Clubsport.
 
Yes, but both the Madcatz AND thrustmaster XB1 wheels have detachable steering wheels.

My guess is that there will be one rim that's approved by MS combined with a XB1 base. Hopefully you can use all the other fanatec steeringwheels with that base too. Hopefully on the XB1 and the PC, if not you can use the other wheels only on the PC.
 
Sorry guys but this thread feels a bit too hard to follow for me... Does it imply that CSR-Elite won't be PS4 compatible ?

As i believe the PS4 compatibility is not hardware (security chip) related like on the XB1, but it all depends on wether the wheel manufacturer develops a PS4 driver. Thrusmaster has already agreed to do this

If logitech decides to make PS4 drivers for the G25/G27, you will have PS4 compatibitly.
Some say they will do this, some say they stepped out of the console markt entirely and will not develope a PS4 driver.

Than there is always the possibility that Fanatec decides to develop a PS4 driver.
 
Tx guys... Hard to believe Fanatec still doesn't know the answer... Why don't they clear it up once and for all ?

Maybe because they still need to come to a compromise with all parties involved. I am sure all of them have some demands, with each having some they don't want to compromise on.
Though that's all guesswork from my part.

Whatever the real reason may be, Fanatec will inform us as soon as they can.
 
Whatever the real reason may be, Fanatec will inform us as soon as they can.
Hope so. Would be a bit of a scam if it turns out other wheel manufacturers will provide compatibility and Fanatec doesn't, but i doubt they would do their customers like that no?

Sure would piss us all off.
 
Just thought I would post my experience with my repaired CSW base unit.

A month ago I received my last repaired unit. According to Fanatec, their were issues with a large batch of motors that went into a lot of wheels. Not only would the motors die quickly, they would also loose FFB power quickly. My repaired unit has noticeably improved performance.

Under extreme FFB load (drifting with high FFB) it takes around 30 consistent minutes of play to notice a drop in FFB. My previous units would fade in less than 10 minutes (more like 5... or one lap). It depends on how active you are with the wheel, but under normal driving condition it now takes roughly 1hr of driving to notice any FFB (which is often the most I'll play in a given session). If you drop the FOR setting to 70-80, there is almost no fade. This was not the case for my previous motors. Obviously, we will see if this lasts over time, but at least initially it seems like the new batch of motors work as promised.
 
Fanatec does not have the resources to work on different large projects at the same time and they have lost a lot of money with the CSR Elite wheel and therefore, I believe, they will release a new wheel with PS4 and/or XBONE support.
 
@paskowitz - I am curious to see if the motors fail or not. That's the litmus test. I would certainly expect a brand new set of motors not to fade as fast as a worn out old set. The new motors don't have any comm wear or damage to the armature wire insulation yet, so of course they won't heat up as fast or get as hot. The question is will they continue to perform as new for an indefinite period or will they begin to get gradually worse and eventually fail again.
 
@paskowitz - I am curious to see if the motors fail or not. That's the litmus test. I would certainly expect a brand new set of motors not to fade as fast as a worn out old set. The new motors don't have any comm wear or damage to the armature wire insulation yet, so of course they won't heat up as fast or get as hot. The question is will they continue to perform as new for an indefinite period or will they begin to get gradually worse and eventually fail again.

Time will tell. The longest I have had a base unit last is somewhere around 8 months. If this one lasts 2 years or more I'll be satisfied.
 
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As some of you may know, I have a T500RS. I was looking at Fanatec's website for all the stuff they had, and I am thoroughly impressed with what I saw. I have also seen a few videos, specifically the Clubsport line. Now I really am interested in having it alongside the T500RS.

How does the CSW, Clubsport V2 pedals (Actually, don't answer this, I can already guess what everyone is going to say.), and CSR shifter set compare to the Thrustmaster counterparts?
 
If you're content with the T500 I'd stick with that. The CSW is great and offers a growing level of complete customization with the recent wheel announcements and other accessories. With that said the T500 is an excellent proven wheel. Pedals......no comparison.....the CSP V2's are IMO the best sub $500 pedals you can buy in terms of feel and customization. The CSR shifter is what it is......a primarily all plastic toy like shifter.......the TH8RS is vastly superior and the CSS IMO is substantially superior to that.
 
If you're content with the T500 I'd stick with that. The CSW is great and offers a growing level of complete customization with the recent wheel announcements and other accessories. With that said the T500 is an excellent proven wheel. Pedals......no comparison.....the CSP V2's are IMO the best sub $500 pedals you can buy in terms of feel and customization. The CSR shifter is what it is......a primarily all plastic toy like shifter.......the TH8RS is vastly superior and the CSS IMO is substantially superior to that.

My opinions differ slightly. I have a T500RS and a CSR Elite (bundle). I prefer the feel of the T500RS wheel to the CSR but only because of the inferior plastic material the CSR uses. Aside from that they are both awesome wheels sets in their price range. A good friend of mine has a CSR Elite bundle as well and bought the CSP V2's under the impression that they were significantly "better" than the standard pedals but surprisingly our concensus is that we actually prefer the standard pedals; they feel more crisp and has a more defined biting point. If we were to compare it to our real cars, it is like comparing the feel of the EVO 10 (standard pedals) vs Toyota landcruiser (V2). Yes we know the pedals can be tuned but heck, why would I now want to shell out extra $ to get my standard EVO like brake pedals to feel like mushy landcruisers? My 2 cents worth and just offering another viewpoint albeit perhaps contrary to most.
 
Good luck man!
As some of you may know, I have a T500RS. I was looking at Fanatec's website for all the stuff they had, and I am thoroughly impressed with what I saw. I have also seen a few videos, specifically the Clubsport line. Now I really am interested in having it alongside the T500RS.

How does the CSW, Clubsport V2 pedals (Actually, don't answer this, I can already guess what everyone is going to say.), and CSR shifter set compare to the Thrustmaster counterparts?

If you primarily play on consoles, stick with the T500RS. If you spend more time on the PC, I would definitely get a set of CSPv2s and would strongly recommend getting a CSW.
 
As some of you may know, I have a T500RS. I was looking at Fanatec's website for all the stuff they had, and I am thoroughly impressed with what I saw. I have also seen a few videos, specifically the Clubsport line. Now I really am interested in having it alongside the T500RS.

How does the CSW, Clubsport V2 pedals (Actually, don't answer this, I can already guess what everyone is going to say.), and CSR shifter set compare to the Thrustmaster counterparts?
For the money you'd be spending, you may want to consider if you would want the eKretz motors and associated mods.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...rs-thread-update-february-2014.274631/page-74

The motor in your T500 is worth about $100, while the stock Fanatec motors are worth about 2 or 3 dollars each. No exaggeration.
 
As some of you may know, I have a T500RS. I was looking at Fanatec's website for all the stuff they had, and I am thoroughly impressed with what I saw. I have also seen a few videos, specifically the Clubsport line. Now I really am interested in having it alongside the T500RS.

How does the CSW, Clubsport V2 pedals (Actually, don't answer this, I can already guess what everyone is going to say.), and CSR shifter set compare to the Thrustmaster counterparts?
I think its also important to note that in the USA the CSW only has a 1 year warranty instead of 2 like the rest of the world. With the motor issues the CSW has that could turn into a real problem.
 
If you look at the buttons on all the new rims all the ps4 buttons r there. So my question is will their be a new wheel base or is it safe to buy the csw b. Then I wonder if they will b nice enough to let you maybe run the th8 shifter through the csw on ps4... Lol right.
 
Fanatec lost their momentum.

After all the new rims and the very exciting Universal Hub, i was expecting a PS4 compatibility announcement at the E3, followed by the ability to pre-order the rims.

That would have been a home run.

I was checking the blog for daily updates with the credit card in my hand.

Now slowly the novelty of the new rims start to wear off.

Too bad.
 
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