Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

[Spagetti69]

Jessica Lopez.

"Inside sim racing has something that no one else in the world has, but I can't say it's killing me softly".

Not sure why I posted that here.......Thomas you know bout this?

 

[shaun_ccxr]

the CSW is only pc and ps3 compatible?

 

[Spagetti69]

the CSW is only pc and ps3 compatible?

If that's the one with changeable rims then yes.

 

[shaun_ccxr]

and the CSR elite is a cheaper CSW but with xbox 360?

 

[Spagetti69]

and the CSR elite is a cheaper CSW but with xbox 360?

Basically the internals are the same.
I'm only going off info from around the web mind. The elite doesn't have removable rim.

Don't know why Thomas doesn't pay for a stick advert around here somewhere lol.

 

[Caz]

Basically the internals are the same.
I'm only going off info from around the web mind. The elite doesn't have removable rim.

Don't know why Thomas doesn't pay for a stick advert around here somewhere lol.

The elite rim is removeable. Just not via quick release. Or powered up.

 

[Spagetti69]

The elite rim is removeable. Just not via quick release. Or powered up.

Well my GT2 and G27 does that.

 

[Caz]

Haha mine to but Thomas has stated that after market wheels will be available.for the elite. I think it was even shown how to take the rim off and the wire loom in one of his videos.

Maybe I was dreaming.

 

[AGP5000]

Just for a quick update on the F1 2011 grainy issue. Turning the damper(dpr) down and the in game setting to 0% helped, but did not fully take it away. Still feels like a bag of sand is holding you back slightly while making quick turns.

 

[Spagetti69]

Just for a quick update on the F1 2011 grainy issue. Turning the damper(dpr) down and the in game setting to 0% helped, but did not fully take it away. Still feels like a bag of sand is holding you back slightly while making quick turns.

Bah, does a touch of drift help 1 maybe 2.
Strange thing is that I've seen the Fanatec in many CM videos.

 

[AGP5000]

Not really. actually, that makes the car a bit more touchy. Any little steering correction made with dri @ 1 will make you spin out. While @ 0, you are fine. And does not take that grainy feeling away.

Like I said, it did get much better from taking dpr to -3 and having the in game setting to 0%. But there is still definitely a feel of it, and makes your turns a little sluggish. I have to turn FF to 0 to make it work, but then the wheel is too free.

I'm sure it will be worked out, and the great thing is, I can still race with it, albeit, not to win though. I am just a little confused, as are many others with this right now. Not terrible though.

Random Note: Can't wait for the CSR shifter to come! Grant you, I have a modded SST for the PC for my GT2, but for the 360, it will be great to have something metal to shift with.

Also Thomas, I realize you cannot give out much information. But, I have a question regarding rims for the CSW. I realize you will have a GT & F1 rim in production @ release. I also know you said "in time" for more rims. I, as are many others interested in a Nascar themed rim. Momo or Sparco full Alcantra rim that is 320-380mm. Can you give a ballpark figure as to when these rims will be developed & produced? Thanks in advance for anything you can say!

Anthony

 

[Vaxxtx]

Was having another look at the CSR Elite pedals.

I could be wrong but the spacing looks to be increased over the CSP with a wider gap between each pedal plate. Also the spacing for the bolts on the pedals as an estimate look to be different to the CSP with further spacing, hard to tell though.

If this is the case and I hope it is "CSR Elite" pedals might easily allow compatible Sparco/Momo plates to be attached.

* I hope Fanatec/ISR mention/confirm this on their upcoming video if it is the case.

I agree, especially after seeing the high res photos. The bolts I believe are like that in order to use the optional inversion kit. Maybe?

 

[K_Soze]

I think it will be the wheel rim of the BMW E92 M3 GT2 Race Car..
Looks veeeeeeery similar (button positions etc)

It is not the new polo WRC wheel...

http://www.sport24.com/auto-moto/rallye/diaporamas/la-polo-r-wrc-se-devoile/polo-de-l-interieur

 

[Fanatec...]

@Anthony
We will release several more wheel rims next year but I cannot give you detailed timing. But making a rim is not as difficult because we use many components on all wheel rims to make development more easy.

 

[bumer]

When will we see the big reveal of a GT rim with the price, as we are already past the half month point?

 

[amf7]

Do you have to get all rims licensed???
Including the formula rim... or is that ok due to it not saying F1??

 

[amf7]

When will we see the big reveal of a GT rim with the price, as we are already past the half month point?

Their are pics of the wheel on 911wheel.de in terms of pricing it will be between 150-300 euros/dollars i believe but thomas could be more precise than my self

 

[bumer]

Their are pics of the wheel on 911wheel.de in terms of pricing it will be between 150-300 euros/dollars i believe but thomas could be more precise than my self

I believe we all know that for a while now.

 

[Crispy]

It is not the new polo WRC wheel...

http://www.sport24.com/auto-moto/rallye/diaporamas/la-polo-r-wrc-se-devoile/polo-de-l-interieur

That shape doesn't look anything like the GT Wheel rim. The GT Rim isn't a Perfect Circle.

 

[Mr Latte]

Mr Jackermeir, please note you are a bad boy and have not yet released the video for the wheels nor further info on the "GT Rim".
I may have to send this guy over to sort you out if you dont hurry on.

However due to you having your hands full we will give you some more time.

 

[zr1chris]

I'm surprised these haven't been posted here yet.

pics of the standard CSR pedals.

 

[IMZ14U2NV]

Ok,
So I must say that I am very embarrassed to say this but I am just utterly confused at this point and I am hoping that someone here can clear things up a bit for me.

So, here is the problem and I am not sure if this has been clarified somewhere and if it has please point me to the thread.

I am looking at the new Fanatec Products and get more confused each time someone chimes in with information, I wish that there was a product comparison chart that listed everything that will be available when the dust settles because at this point I can’t tell if I should be looking at the older product or the new one as an example: I thought the new CSR Elite Pedals were going to be the top of the line just based on the name, but I have seen conversations stating that the Clubsport Pedals are still the Top Of the Line, is that true???

Also when it comes to the Wheels, I am even more confused as I have seen a CSR which I think everyone is saying is the same as one of the older wheels (GT3 RS I think), which is a GT Style wheel and has a Silver colored plate with LED’s at the top.

Then there is the CSR Elite Wheel which I like because of the all metal construction which looks to have the same GT Style wheel but with Carbon Fiber instead of Silver (is it real or just a veneer on top of the same silver plate??), will this work with the PS3 as well as xbox and pc??

That brings me to what I believe is the non-xbox version of the CSR Elite which is called the CSW (Is that right??), from what I could see it has the same all metal base as the CSR Elite (With a Red Button instead of a Green xbox button) but was shown with a F1 Style wheel rim (I would not be interested in that, prefer GT Style) that looks to be constructed very well with lots of metal from what I can see and I believe it has a Quick Release System and Rev Indicators. Did I get this right, I am really attempting to understand my options, I currently only own the PS3 but was thinking of getting an xbox just to play Forza 4.

And just to keep things interesting, I know that there are some lower end CSR Pedals but I don’t think I would consider that.

 

[zr1chris]

^ The clubsports are still the top of the line Fanatec pedal set.

The standard CSR wheel is probably going to be very similar in functionality to the GT2 (both being multi-platform.

The CSR Elite does indeed have real carbon fiber. It does work with the PS3, xbox360, and PC.

Yes, the clubsport wheel only works on the PS3 and PC.

 

[IMZ14U2NV]

^ The clubsports are still the top of the line Fanatec pedal set.

The standard CSR wheel is probably going to be very similar in functionality to the GT2 (both being multi-platform.

The CSR Elite does indeed have real carbon fiber. It does work with the PS3, xbox360, and PC.

Yes, the clubsport wheel only works on the PS3 and PC.

Thanks,
So I guess my only option is to consider the CSR Elite with the Clubsport Pedals and wait to see what other Wheel Rims they bring out for it, my favorite wheel is the “2009-2011 Porsche PDK Red Alcantara Steering Wheel”, I hope they come out with something like that.

 

[Mr Latte]

Hope this is some help well...

Yes indeed some are finding it all confusing but they will soon help clarify things and Im certain ISR will have forth coming videos that do so.

To help Id say that firstly you have to determine if you are going to mainly play on a PS3 and/or X360 console. Perhaps you will play alot on PC.

The CSR wheel is a new revised and improved wheel that of course is X360 compatible and FM4 branded. It uses the main wheel chassis/housing of previous wheels. Their are several improvements which will be highlighted later but essientially this wheel will provide a great performance and feature set for its price.

The CSR Elite is a complete new design and new chassis. It is aimed at the console owner wanting the best experience possible (private joke). The new design has improvements in smoothness, precission and possible power. Upcoming reviews will likely highlight all its benefits and extras and what in real terms it delivers over and above the "CSR" model.

The CSW uses this same new highend chasis but goes even further for the serious PC racing Simulation fan/user. This has yet again more unique features over the CSR Elite however this model is not compatible with X360 at all.

As for pedals, again it depends if your a console owner or both PC/Console player what may suit your needs best. The Clubsports have contactless sensors on the pedals. These can offer more precission on PC. The new CSR and CSR Elite pedals seem to offer more adaptibility yet loose the contactless sensors. It is likely the CSR Elite has more metal components and includes the same "Brake feature" as the Clubsport pedals which they are renowned for. For the console owner the CSR Elite pedals could be more than good enough without the additional cost and tuning features available for the CSP. The CSR pedals look to be greatly improved over the original standard Porsche pedals and are good if you want to keep the costs down and go for standard brake feature. These should be equally as good as something like the Logitech G27 quality of pedals.

 

[IMZ14U2NV]

Hope this is some help well...

Yes indeed some are finding it all confusing but they will soon help clarify things and Im certain ISR will have forth coming videos that do so.

To help Id say that firstly you have to determine if you are going to mainly play on a PS3 and/or X360 console. Perhaps you will play alot on PC.

The CSR wheel is a new revised and improved wheel that of course is X360 compatible and FM4 branded. It uses the main wheel chassis/housing of previous wheels. Their are several improvements which will be highlighted later but essientially this wheel will provide a great performance and feature set for its price.

The CSR Elite is a complete new design and new chassis. It is aimed at the console owner wanting the best experience possible (private joke). The new design has improvements in smoothness, precission and possible power. Upcoming reviews will likely highlight all its benefits and extras and what in real terms it delivers over and above the "CSR" model.

The CSW uses this same new highend chasis but goes even further for the serious PC racing Simulation fan/user. This has yet again more unique features over the CSR Elite however this model is not compatible with X360 at all.

As for pedals, again it depends if your a console owner or both PC/Console player what may suit your needs best. The Clubsports have contactless sensors on the pedals. These can offer more precission on PC. The new CSR and CSR Elite pedals seem to offer more adaptibility yet loose the contactless sensors. It is likely the CSR Elite has more metal components and includes the same "Brake feature" as the Clubsport pedals which they are renowned for. For the console owner the CSR Elite pedals could be more than good enough without the additional cost and tuning features available for the CSP. The CSR pedals look to be greatly improved over the original standard Porsche pedals and are good if you want to keep the costs down and go for standard brake feature. These should be equally as good as something like the Logitech G27 quality of pedals.

Mr Latte, thanks for the information, just for the record, I only play on the console, right now I only have the PS3, but as I said, I think I want to get an xbox for Forza 4, it looks pretty good, hopefully it will play as good as it looks. I have a pretty high powered Laptop (well technically it is a laptop, but it is 20.1” Monster), but I really never play anything on it.

When you said “the CSR Elite has more metal components and includes the same "Brake feature" as the Clubsport pedals which they are renowned for”, did you mean more metal then the CSR Pedals or the Clubsport Pedals??

 

[zr1chris]

^ More metal than the standard CSR pedals.

 

[12thgear]

When you said “the CSR Elite has more metal components and includes the same "Brake feature" as the Clubsport pedals which they are renowned for”, did you mean more metal then the CSR Pedals or the Clubsport Pedals??

The CSR pedals look to use a lot of plastic, even in structural areas, like the frame, pedal arms, and supports. The floorpan is metal, as are the pedal faces. Even though it's mostly plastic, the design appears robust. All three pedals use potentiometers to read position.

The CSR Elite pedals are of a similar design, but with metal in much more of the construction. While the frame is still plastic, the pedals are mounted in sturdy looking aluminum rails, and the pedal arms are steel. The brake pedal uses a load cell, which measures foot pressure to determine braking strength. This feels much more natural if you drive in real life. Races are won in the braking zones and my experiences with a load cell show it makes a big difference in braking precision and consistency.

The ClubSport Pedals are the big dogs. EVERYTHING is cast or machined aluminum, with steel rods tying it all together. They're really heavy duty. Emphasis on heavy. They use a load cell brake as well, and also use magnetic sensors for gas and clutch, which should last longer than potentiometers and should be more accurate. Overall, these pedals are really nice, and quite an improvement for only $50 more.

However, the CSR and CSR Elite benefit from being newer designs, and were conceived to be modular and more easily adjusted. There's an inversion kit on the way if you want suspended pedals for more of a road car design. There's a kit coming for the ClubSport pedals too, but as someone who has taken mine apart, I can say with confidence that inverting these will require some work.

 

[amf7]

theirs a comparison from 911wheel.de

on my site here http://wheelreviews.yolasite.com/fanatec.php

 

[KashunatoR]

there was talking about CSP v2 at some point. any news about that? when i buy the complete package on Christmas i want to be as futureproof as possible and the current CSPs have been on the market for a long time. thanks