Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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I want the ClubSport Pedals V2 !

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/rmjhj650/folder/522972.html

Improved clutch feeling like Frex pedals ?

These may or may not be prototypes. The clutch is a mod that can befound on youtube.
The brake piston is " new ". These may just be a very modded set or in fact a prototype. Although I would expect fanatec to have that cpv racing valve custom built with out logos on it. This set looks a little to finished to be a prototype as well. Hmmmmmm


Edit: sorry picsdidnt quote. Post is about 16 pages back
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@Anthony
We will release several more wheel rims next year but I cannot give you detailed timing. But making a rim is not as difficult because we use many components on all wheel rims to make development more easy.

Thank you Thomas. That is what I was looking to hear. I am going to hold off until then for the CSW. I am very content with the GT2, and will keep it for 360 purposes.

I am dialed in on the QR system, and a Nascar style/themed rim. And since it will only be until later next year for more rims, I am more than complacent to wait. I realize there is no reason to design one for the elite since there is no good Nascar game to market with it, at least as of yet......(I'm talking to you codemasters!)

P.S.-Thanks for the great new items! The CSR shifter will be a joy to use, I'm sure.
 
Thank you Thomas. That is what I was looking to hear. I am going to hold off until then for the CSW. I am very content with the GT2, and will keep it for 360 purposes.
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AGP, how long did you have your GT2 and how does it feels? Does the Alcantara leather wear off after some intense gaming? Does the thread stiching the leather start peeling off? I was originally thinking about the CSR wheel (CSR Elite is currently out of my budget) but I think I still like the Porsche wheel better even if the CSR has upgraded components over the GT2.
 
I'm looking to get a Fantec wheel, but it does seem really confusing if i go with the Forza Motorsport CSR Wheel and the elite pedals thats fine. but are the elite pedals the best pedals Fantec sell.
I'm also unsure on whether to wait for the 'Elite wheel'. I currenty own a Thrustmaster t500, with a pre-order of shifter and Formula 1 Ferrari wheel.
I would like to know anyone please, whether the Forza CSR wheel is equivalent to this or would I notice the difference and be advised to wait for the Elite model.(I am not talking about pedals)
I have all 3 systems of xbox, PS3 and PC, but PC would be the one I play on most.
 
AGP, how long did you have your GT2 and how does it feels? Does the Alcantara leather wear off after some intense gaming? Does the thread stiching the leather start peeling off? I was originally thinking about the CSR wheel (CSR Elite is currently out of my budget) but I think I still like the Porsche wheel better even if the CSR has upgraded components over the GT2.


The Alcantra smell wears off, as for the material itself, its holding up great after about 4 months of 1-3hrs/day racing on avg. It does not have that soft to the immediate touch feel anymore, but still VERY comfortable to race with, 110%. The stitching is still good, but I also take care of and do not abuse the wheel. I realize this is truly not a toy, but a piece of machinery.

Honestly, if you asked ME, I would say go with the GT2. I love the alcantra feel. The new CSR wheel, NOT elite is just a newer version of the GT2. All the same internal components as the GT2, just lighter and different rim. The only thing I notice that is better is the paddles on the rim. The GT2's paddle's were floppy and you did not always get the shift in. I personally have the GT3's paddles on it. They are slightly smaller and you will get the shift 100% of the time. (Thomas I realize that this is null with the new wheels, but for the GT2, it would be nice to utilize the smaller paddles to ensure proper shifting) I have pics up on one of the Fanatec threads here of them, can't remember which one though.


@vlad1- The eCSR elite pedals are the new high end pedals from Fanatec. They are $50 US/EU cheaper than the clubsports. The CSP's are still the TOP line of pedals from Fanatec. The Elite's have an inversion kit to make that change easier than the CSP's. That is really the only difference. Also, the CSP's are built slightly beefier than the Elite Pedals too.

As for the TM F1 wheel. Seems more like a toy than a piece of machinery, imho. Not to hate on TM, they do make great products. Fanatec's looks like the real deal, ALL Aluminum.
 
Thomas, chuck a load cell on the clutch will ya?

Would make left foot braking, (F1) for example a nice touch.

Cheers.
 
@AGP5000 .Thanks for the clarification. The name elite should of been chosen for there top range pedals.There really should have a clear table stating which is the best.
As for the Fantec wheel rim I do like the digital display on the Fantec and build but some buttons seem to be missing. I am not keen on the Thrustmaster dials that don't work, as for the build. I am not sure whether its plasticky or not. It may or may not be. I'll get it and if its too plasticky i'll return it. (Amazon should allow it)
Waiting for the Fantec Elite Formula 1 wheel will be a while. So I'll go with the F1 ferrari wheel as its coming this month.
 
The Alcantra smell wears off, as for the material itself, its holding up great after about 4 months of 1-3hrs/day racing on avg. It does not have that soft to the immediate touch feel anymore, but still VERY comfortable to race with, 110%. The stitching is still good, but I also take care of and do not abuse the wheel. I realize this is truly not a toy, but a piece of machinery.

Honestly, if you asked ME, I would say go with the GT2. I love the alcantra feel. The new CSR wheel, NOT elite is just a newer version of the GT2. All the same internal components as the GT2, just lighter and different rim. The only thing I notice that is better is the paddles on the rim. The GT2's paddle's were floppy and you did not always get the shift in. I personally have the GT3's paddles on it. They are slightly smaller and you will get the shift 100% of the time. (Thomas I realize that this is null with the new wheels, but for the GT2, it would be nice to utilize the smaller paddles to ensure proper shifting) I have pics up on one of the Fanatec threads here of them, can't remember which one though.

I agree. If you like the feel of alcantra the GT2 would be a choice over the other. It feels more "beefy" I guess is the only world that comes to mind. Comfortable for short or long races.

The thing I really like on the CSR is the directional knob. The one on the GT2 is just odd to use. It works, but the one on the CSR is placed, and setup better.
 
Thomas, chuck a load cell on the clutch will ya?

Would make left foot braking, (F1) for example a nice touch.

Cheers.

There's no reason for that. It would feel too weird. It's probably easier to just swap clutch and brake pedals if you don't like brake being so close to a accelerator.
 
@AGP5000 & Vaxxtx,
Thank you both for your input. I used to own a used PWTS and sold it a few weeks later. I loved that wheel tremendously, but because my hands tend to sweat, they were sticking on the rim's leather and the feeling became quite uncomfortable. The D-pad feels like it's easy to break too, so the knob on the CSR wheel should be better.
 
I have the GT3rs with alcantra and it is holding up very well after lots of use since about Jan. There is no doubt of its quality.

On the other hand I think I would prefer a slightly thinner rim and maybe a different material. Just personal preference.
 
Good news, guys. Fanatec has just posted a very comprehensive, official wheel comparison page: http://www.fanatec.de/html/pw_overview.htm

*Updated as of 2:55pm*

I read the list over and here are some things I noticed, in random order: We now know the CSR Elite and CSW use the same Mabuchi 550 series motors, except now they use two of them. I suppose one motor for each direction, for more immediate and stronger response? The GT2 will be the only wheel that supports the optional USB RF dongle for wireless play on a PC or PS3. The CSW is the only wheel listed that will support static paddle shifters or wheel mounted shifters that move with the wheel. It looks like the hard points are still on the CSR Elite, so perhaps it's possible to mount and use static paddles unofficially, at least for PC use. The CSW will support a staggering 111 buttons. Fanatec lists the CSR and CSR Elite as only supporting 8 buttons, while the Porsche wheels list 14. I think this an error. In both cases I count 14 buttons when you include the D-pad. 16 if you include the paddle shifters. The CSW will only accept Fanatec pedals. All other wheels can G25/G27 pedals with an adapter. Fanatec has yet to reveal what the Direct Data Output port will be used for. Finally, the CSW lists AE functionality. Does anyone know what that means?
 
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12thgear
The CSR pedals look to use a lot of plastic, even in structural areas, like the frame, pedal arms, and supports. The floorpan is metal, as are the pedal faces. Even though it's mostly plastic, the design appears robust. All three pedals use potentiometers to read position.

The CSR Elite pedals are of a similar design, but with metal in much more of the construction. While the frame is still plastic, the pedals are mounted in sturdy looking aluminum rails, and the pedal arms are steel. The brake pedal uses a load cell, which measures foot pressure to determine braking strength. This feels much more natural if you drive in real life. Races are won in the braking zones and my experiences with a load cell show it makes a big difference in braking precision and consistency.

The ClubSport Pedals are the big dogs. EVERYTHING is cast or machined aluminum, with steel rods tying it all together. They're really heavy duty. Emphasis on heavy. They use a load cell brake as well, and also use magnetic sensors for gas and clutch, which should last longer than potentiometers and should be more accurate. Overall, these pedals are really nice, and quite an improvement for only $50 more.

However, the CSR and CSR Elite benefit from being newer designs, and were conceived to be modular and more easily adjusted. There's an inversion kit on the way if you want suspended pedals for more of a road car design. There's a kit coming for the ClubSport pedals too, but as someone who has taken mine apart, I can say with confidence that inverting these will require some work.

12thgear,
Great write up, lots of really useful information, thanks!!
 
Good news, guys. Fanatec has just posted a very comprehensive, official wheel comparison page: http://www.fanatec.de/html/pw_overview.htm

*Updated as of 2:55pm*

The CSW will support a staggering 111 buttons. Fanatec lists the CSR and CSR Elite as only supporting 8 buttons, while the Porsche wheels list 14. I think this an error. In both cases I count 14 buttons when you include the D-pad. 16 if you include the paddle shifters.
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Finally, the CSW lists AE functionality. Does anyone know what that means?

Nice list indeed.

I don't think Fanatec counted the analog stick and the paddle shifters as "buttons" resulting 8 buttons for CSR Series VS 14 in the Porsche Series. As for AE, I'm guessing it's an advance tuning feature that is yet to be announced or implemented.
 
Good news, guys. Fanatec has just posted a very comprehensive, official wheel comparison page: http://www.fanatec.de/html/pw_overview.htm

*Updated as of 2:55pm*

I read the list over and here are some things I noticed, in random order: We now know the CSR Elite and CSW use the same Mabuchi 550 series motors, except now they use two of them. I suppose one motor for each direction, for more immediate and stronger response? The GT2 will be the only wheel that supports the optional USB RF dongle for wireless play on a PC or PS3. The CSW is the only wheel listed that will support static paddle shifters or wheel mounted shifters that move with the wheel. It looks like the hard points are still on the CSR Elite, so perhaps it's possible to mount and use static paddles unofficially, at least for PC use. The CSW will support a staggering 111 buttons. Fanatec lists the CSR and CSR Elite as only supporting 8 buttons, while the Porsche wheels list 14. I think this an error. In both cases I count 14 buttons when you include the D-pad. 16 if you include the paddle shifters. The CSW will only accept Fanatec pedals. All other wheels can G25/G27 pedals with an adapter. Fanatec has yet to reveal what the Direct Data Output port will be used for. Finally, the CSW lists AE functionality. Does anyone know what that means?

That list shows two features im not sure about. First is "Steady/Static Peddle" assuming its supposed to say paddle, does this mean that the CSW's paddle shifters can be mounted to the rim or the base?

And second is "Shifters in Parallel". Meaning what, that I can have both sequential and 6 speed shifters plugged in permanently on thw CSW?
 
I don't think Fanatec counted the analog stick and the paddle shifters as "buttons" resulting 8 buttons for CSR Series VS 14 in the Porsche Series. As for AE, I'm guessing it's an advance tuning feature that is yet to be announced or implemented.

I thought that too, but only the CSW lists an analog stick. I believe the stick on the CSR and CSR Elite is just a D-pad. The way it's screen printed seems to reinforce that.

That list shows two features im not sure about. First is "Steady/Static Peddle" assuming its supposed to say paddle, does this mean that the CSW's paddle shifters can be mounted to the rim or the base?

And second is "Shifters in Parallel". Meaning what, that I can have both sequential and 6 speed shifters plugged in permanently on thw CSW?

I think Thomas mentioned in a video that the CSW would support an optional static paddle shifter kit. Perhaps that's why it supports multiple shifters in parallel. Though your idea of having the sequential and H shifters connected simultaneously may also be possible. We just don't know yet.
 
Somebody photoshop the FM logo away (CSR Elite) from the center and let's see how it would look more generic 👍 :P
 
Timppaq
Somebody photoshop the FM logo away (CSR Elite) from the center and let's see how it would look more generic 👍 :P

That's what I'm sayin'! I'd like to pop out that cap and put a Fanatec "F" logo in it's place. Would make for a nice option to find while doing an unboxing ;)
 
That's what I'm sayin'! I'd like to pop out that cap and put a Fanatec "F" logo in it's place. Would make for a nice option to find while doing an unboxing ;)

Hmm... I have an CSR with the Elite pedals on order. The "Fm" to me stands for "Fanatec" motorsport :sly:
 
It isn't to difficult at all to print off a very good looking new centre cap with a logo of choice on a bit of photo paper. I've got a Momo logo in the middle of my wheel, and you'd be hard pressed to tell it was a 2 minute job.

IMG_0045.jpg


Logos can be found here
 
I don't think Fanatec counted the analog stick and the paddle shifters as "buttons" resulting 8 buttons for CSR Series VS 14 in the Porsche Series. As for AE, I'm guessing it's an advance tuning feature that is yet to be announced or implemented.
I would really like some clarification on this...8 buttons does not seem like nearly enough.
 
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