Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

[sandboxgod]

Ehhhhh sandbox, It's Micro$oft, what can you expect?...................

Let them stay greedy and miss out on the best products for machine. It's their loss really. I mainly am a xbox360 guy myself, but realize the capabilities for PC/PS3, and go, eh, why am I wasting time on the 360 for racing. Mainly b/c of the 30fps limit.

I will give FM4 a shot, and F1 is amazing, so, some good things there. I am going to keep the GT2 for 360 purposes and relish a good CSW!

Btw: random note. After looking @ the specs for the CSR elite pedals and comparing them to the CSP's. There truly is no comparison. The CSP's blows them out of the water, minus the easy inversion set-up. Still look sweet though.

Is their a tech spreadsheet that compares the CSPs vs CSR Elite pedals? I am assuming the CSR Elite is using pots for gas/clutch and only load cell for brakes? I am quite confused in regards to CSR Elite pedal vs CSP

 

[Mr Latte]

Only the CSP use the "contactless sensors"

However do remember the CSP have a tuning kit available and technically could be better for the PC simulation fan. To the average gamer and certainly the console player they may not get the full advantage of those options from console games and the pedals.

Both have the loadcell which if anything is the most talked about feature of the CSP and not the "wireless sensors".

 

[sandboxgod]

Ah that helps a lot I was quite confused about that. Thank you very much 👍

 

[AGP5000]

Is their a tech spreadsheet that compares the CSPs vs CSR Elite pedals? I am assuming the CSR Elite is using pots for gas/clutch and only load cell for brakes? I am quite confused in regards to CSR Elite pedal vs CSP

Yea, on that wheel comparison chart also has a shifter & pedal comparison chart as well. There you can really see how the CSP's are far more advanced and complete to any other. The Elite's are good, but some plastic components and potentiometers exist. Whereas the CSP's are all formed or machined aluminum and contact-less sensors.

 

[SC Juggernaut]

To be honest, there is no hoop jumping. I used my credit card through paypal. I had an old PP account I almost forgot I had. Anyway, even if you pay with a CC it just goes through the PayPal service. I dont even think you need to do anything special, just like you would buy something off any site.

Ok, Mr.Latte beat me to it...

The Paypal service itself is what I have a problem with.

I have 2 close friends who have had horrible experiences with them.

I don't trust using anything personal with them. This includes my CC or my debit account.

Only way I can see myself using Paypal for a purchase like this is if they allow people to top up an account using a prepaid/gift type of CC.

 

[AGP5000]

The Paypal service itself is what I have a problem with.

I have 2 close friends who have had horrible experiences with them.

I don't trust using anything personal with them. This includes my CC or my debit account.

Only way I can see myself using Paypal for a purchase like this is if they allow people to top up an account using a prepaid/gift type of CC.

Honestly, have no fear. I have been using paypal for about 3 years. eBay, Fanatec, paying people/people paying me. As long as you verify your account, and have it set-up, you have nothing to worry about.

In Fact, Fanatec loses slightly by using paypal. They take a certain % out of each and every transaction. I feel for your friends, but most, if not all can tell you paypal is MORE than secure to use.

 

[amf7]

Interesting, so the new Fanatec CSW will have the ability to go up to 111 buttons? I saw that clearly written on Fanatec's info page but assumed it to be a typo lol. Well we all called it way back many pages ago that wheel has incredible potential. I can see modder's being able to easily use that Quick release feature to prototype new rims, etc

I still see the occasional post whereas yall want the CSW to get modded to work on the xbox 360. But that can't happen I'm afraid. Seriously I wish it were that simple. Thomas explained this awhile back. Microsoft requires their custom XID technology in wheels that work on the xbox platform. If you search the forums for the XID keyword perhaps you can find a much more elegant and accurate explanation written by Thomas himself.

Anyway I better end this post right here because if I were to keep typing I'd just complain how unfair life is the CSW does not work on the xbox 360. Once again this is more Microsoft fail




No it does not. It only has like 11-14 buttons as we discussed a few pages ago. But that matters not. The PC sim racers are still drooling over the CSW f1 rim. Apparently they are more taken by the fact it has the rev limiter on the wheel. Personally, I was thinking it would be better to have a detached rev limiter like in the red bull f1 cars but anyway I can't hate on their logic.

the Microsoft situation is a shame for people with 360 as it means those guys have to pay so much more than pc and ps3 users. It basically means it not cost effective for someone to produce an 80 pound wheel with decent ffb

 

[SC Juggernaut]

Fanatec selling direct allows them to maximise their margins and keep the selling price down.

Fanatec is doing what is in their best interest as a boutique company, and I don't dislike them for that. It would not be smart on their behalf to do it any other way.

If anything, I dislike Microsoft and Turn 10 for endorsing those wheels as the official Forza 4 wheels, yet not offering any support to Fanatec as to how they can widely distribute those wheels online in support of their game.

 

[SC Juggernaut]

Honestly, have no fear. I have been using paypal for about 3 years. eBay, Fanatec, paying people/people paying me. As long as you verify your account, and have it set-up, you have nothing to worry about.

In Fact, Fanatec loses slightly by using paypal. They take a certain % out of each and every transaction. I feel for your friends, but most, if not all can tell you paypal is MORE than secure to use.

Thanks for your insight.

I'm seriously thinking about just taking the plunge.

The 270 degree steering limitation on the Microsoft wheel just kills the whole driving experience. I can't push cars on the track the way I want to. It just feels ridiculous when I go from using one of my PS3/PC wheels to using that controller.

How long do you have to wait for shipping on a CSR right now?

 

[AGP5000]

Thanks for your insight.

I'm seriously thinking about just taking the plunge.

The 270 degree steering limitation on the Microsoft wheel just kills the whole driving experience. I can't push cars on the track the way I want to. It just feels ridiculous when I go from using one of my PS3/PC wheels to using that controller.

How long do you have to wait for shipping on a CSR right now?

The site says order now, you will have it before October 15th. And, I more than trust Thomas this time around, lessons have been learned and worked upon. So, feel safe, you will have it in a timely manner.

And yea, paypal is really no issue. VERY safe and secure to use. Yea, the 270 degree rotation made me sell it quicker than I purchased it lol. Coming from a Momo that is.......

 

[Vaxxtx]

Thanks for your insight.

I'm seriously thinking about just taking the plunge.

The 270 degree steering limitation on the Microsoft wheel just kills the whole driving experience. I can't push cars on the track the way I want to. It just feels ridiculous when I go from using one of my PS3/PC wheels to using that controller.

How long do you have to wait for shipping on a CSR right now?

Delivery before Oct 15th.

And the thing I love the Fanatec wheel is if a game doesnt give the option...the wheel setting do.

 

[amf7]

Adam : just an fyi, i tried to view your chart bit the link is broken.

Thanks... will check/change that

 

[Ya Pops]

Yea, on that wheel comparison chart also has a shifter & pedal comparison chart as well. There you can really see how the CSP's are far more advanced and complete to any other. The Elite's are good, but some plastic components and potentiometers exist. Whereas the CSP's are all formed or machined aluminum and contact-less sensors.

I hear you, but coming from MS and DFGT pedals, I'd be happy with 'bog standard' CSR's (non-elite)

 

[amf7]

I hear you, but coming from MS and DFGT pedals, I'd be happy with 'bog standard' CSR's (non-elite)

Yes at least these pedals will have resistance LOL

The DFGTs I have got used to.. however I am planning on upgrading to a Fanatec ASAP :S

 

[AGP5000]

I hear you, but coming from MS and DFGT pedals, I'd be happy with 'bog standard' CSR's (non-elite)

Hey man. I 110% understand. We all have to live within our means. I even @ first had the old standards. When they gave/malfunctioned, Fanatec offered me a discount of $50(old price for old PS pedals) + Free shipping on the CSP's. So, I took them up on it. I am SURE with the new CSR pedals, the issues that existed with the old pedals will be null/nil/zilch/zero, etc........

I am simply coming from a person who already owns the CSP's thinking about getting the elite's to mess around with for a little lol. But, since there is a vast difference, i'll pass. I might get the CSR standards to have to try out this inversion kit.

I am SOLD on the CSR shifter set. To have something metal to shift with for the 360 will be GREAT! I have a modded SST for PC purposes just for fun really. I think people are underselling these new shifters a bit. IMHO, these will be a significant upgrade from the PWSS. As for the CSS, only time will tell. Thomas did state that due to the Forza/Turn10 wheels, the CSS project got slightly pushed back/delayed. So, for now, the CSR set will do great!

 

[Ya Pops]

No arguments here

I'm just glad Fanatec are trying to give us quality gear at different price points.
CSP's aren't going to happen for me. CSR elites or (more likely) plain CSR's are a very real option though.

 

[AGP5000]

Good man. I hope to hear all about some of these products soon. It seems like this line will put the market in a tizzy.

btw: Love the Total Recall Pic! Totally late 80's/early 90's hollywood lol.

 

[Ya Pops]

Yeah, would be nice if it helped to kick Logitech into action too.

Haha cheers, I keep meaning to make it into an animated gif.

 

[Vaxxtx]

Only the CSP use the "contactless sensors"

However do remember the CSP have a tuning kit available and technically could be better for the PC simulation fan. To the average gamer and certainly the console player they may not get the full advantage of those options from console games and the pedals.

Both have the loadcell which if anything is the most talked about feature of the CSP and not the "wireless sensors".

Yea, on that wheel comparison chart also has a shifter & pedal comparison chart as well. There you can really see how the CSP's are far more advanced and complete to any other. The Elite's are good, but some plastic components and potentiometers exist. Whereas the CSP's are all formed or machined aluminum and contact-less sensors.

You guys have me worried somewhat of my purchase of the CSR Elite pedals.

 

[Ya Pops]

You guys have me worried somewhat of my purchase of the CSR Elite pedals.

No need to worry. They're going to be great pedals, just not quite as great as the legendary CSP's.

 

[AGP5000]

Oh no, don't be worried. You made a great purchase. But, imho, for only $50 more, you get a lot more. Except the easy inversion, which is part of what advantage the elite pedals have over the CSP's.

I am more talking about components vs. price. To me, the CSP's are still way ahead. Contact-less sensors on gas & clutch instead of potentiometers. And vibrating brake on CSP's and not on elite's. Also, all formed or machined aluminum on the CSP's while the elite's have some, but very little plastic or abs/rubber coated components.

As for quality, I am SURE you made a great purchase. I am more talking about what is included. So, rest assured, you made a great decision nonetheless!

 

[amf7]

The clubsports will be the pest pedals around for time to come...
The elites will be great. Trust Thomas and Darin. They know what they are doing.

 

[II-zOoLoGy-II]

The clubsports will be the best pedals around for time to come...
The elites will be great. Trust Thomas and Darin. They know what they are doing.

Speaking of which...

Has ISR put out a full review of any of the products yet?

I already ordered the CSR and Elite pedals but I still want to see them lol.

 

[amf7]

Speaking of which...

Has ISR put out a full review of any of the products yet?

I already ordered the CSR and Elite pedals but I still want to see them lol.

No one has a review out yet... but I guess ISR will be priority on DEMO wheels as they are the biggest sim racing site

 

[zr1chris]

Speaking of which...

Has ISR put out a full review of any of the products yet?

I already ordered the CSR and Elite pedals but I still want to see them lol.

Here is some info for you.

 

[II-zOoLoGy-II]

Here is some info for you.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46Hl-4-2qPI">YouTube Link</a>

Ya I saw that one. Shaun is such a little kid. I bet the whole time he is thinking "wheel....BOOBIES!" lol.

 

[amf7]

Ya I saw that one. Shaun is such a little kid. I bet the whole time he is thinking "wheel....BOOBIES!" lol.

The price is so good for that wheel IMO... shame it dosen't come with pedals..

 

[II-zOoLoGy-II]

The price is so good for that wheel IMO... shame it dosen't come with pedals..

I think so too. I was either going for the GT2 or the CSR (would've loved the CSW...wifey would have murdered me). I ordered the CSR because I prefer a more race looking rig. From what I have read it is practically just an updated version of the GT2 (which is in NO way a bad thing from the reviews I have read). The Elite pedals are a steal at 150.00. I don't have a gaming PC so the CSP seemed like a little bit of overkill since the brake vibration doesn't work on consoles (please, correct me if I am wrong because if I am... I'm changing my order lol).

 

[amf7]

I think so too. I was either going for the GT2 or the CSR (would've loved the CSW...wifey would have murdered me). I ordered the CSR because I prefer a more race looking rig. From what I have read it is practically just an updated version of the GT2 (which is in NO way a bad thing from the reviews I have read). The Elite pedals are a steal at 150.00. I don't have a so the CSP seemed like a little bit of overkill since the brake vibration doesn't work on consoles (please, correct me if I am wrong because if I am... I'm changing my order lol).

I hope to eventually buy the cubsport wheel... Hopefully it will happen. And your right the GT2 is fantastic

 

[II-zOoLoGy-II]

I hope to eventually buy the cubsport wheel... Hopefully it will happen. And your right the GT2 is fantastic

Good to hear. When you get it... I want video lol. If anything but to drool over.

I will post up an unboxing / set up / review as soon as my CSR gets here either in this thread or it's own. Someone will probably beat me to it but the more the merrier I guess.