Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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maks
I also worry about future compatibility with the T500 and TH8.
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If you want this combo for just PS3 gaming, I'm not sure that the overall cost is worth it. There is just not enough games to make it feasible at the moment.

For PC/PS3 guys, this combo is perfect. The T500 lineup is looking quite strong with the T500 and TH8. The only thing Thrustmaster is lacking in comparison to Fanatec is a higher class set of pedals. A lot of guys seem to be fine with G25/G27 (w/mod) pedals though, and in my opinion, the T500 pedals with brake mod beats those easily.
 
Mr Latte
Im feeling positive that the Elite will better the T500RS personally.
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Having xbox support for a wheel of that grade is awesome, but with the T500 and CSW having the ability to switch out rim types, it makes the Elite seem a bit less appealing. Being able to change rims and have them work on console is a big selling point that the Elite doesn't officially support.

PC guys have been able to mod in different rims on wheels and have them work, while people on console never really had a working solution for that until now. The potential to do this with the Elite is technically there, but now we are left to wait and see if enough support for it is there.

Until then I may have to keep trolling about it. :sly:
 
So basically I can buy one of those nice new metal shifters, sell my Logitech pedals, but the CSR pedals, and use my GT3 RS for GT5? I really, really want a shifter. It's fun and all right now, but using flappy paddles and having a useless clutch pedal gets old, fast. Besides, I wanna practice actual manual shifting, because I want to learn to drive a manual IRL. So, any new hints on the nicest metal shifter? Price? Release date?
 
Fanatec...
In don't expect that either and it is not our target to just match the other shifters on the market ;)
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Haha awesome. Now that the elite and csw has hit production speed any guesstimate on a timeline for the css? And, has the design changed at all since TM released all the info about the th8.

Not really expecting an honest answer to the second question as a yes answer would admit that the th8 WAS better than your design ;)
 
We actually did a design change but not because of the TM shifter. So far there was no car on the market that really had a 7 speed manual gearbox and it makes no sense for me to use a h-pattern gearbox on cars which only have paddle shifters so we planned to make a 6+1 speed shifter.
But after Porsche introduced the new 911 with 7+1 speed shifter we reconsidered this position and went back to the drawing board.

Other than that, I did not see any reason to make changes. And I did not see any big surprise to be honest.
 
SC Juggernaut
Having xbox support for a wheel of that grade is awesome, but with the T500 and CSW having the ability to switch out rim types, it makes the Elite seem a bit less appealing. Being able to change rims and have them work on console is a big selling point that the Elite doesn't officially support.

PC guys have been able to mod in different rims on wheels and have them work, while people on console never really had a working solution for that until now. The potential to do this with the Elite is technically there, but now we are left to wait and see if enough support for it is there.

Until then I may have to keep trolling about it. :sly:
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The CSR doesnt support additional rims. The CSR Elite can remove its rim yet will have a "limited range" available in the future according to Fanatec chart. That will likely depend on the sales and demand of the CSR Elite wheel when more options appear.

For most they have to determine do they want X360 support or the extra benefits the CSW brings for simulation and the PC hardcore.
 
Wow! If Shaun says he's using it in his rig then that makes me VERY happy!

He plays everything I do and has loved his G27, just like me. So hearing that part toward the end about its higher precision and quicker feel just made me gitty. It can't come soon enough!

@Pat
btw, yes, if he's using it on his rig then he's saying it's more than solid for all platforms. This includes iRacing for the PC and probably even GT. Come to think of it, now I can't wait to try it out on GT!

But he also mentioned that it's the best Xbox wheel, but that's not saying too much since the only real comparable wheel was the GT2. And I think he was simply giving his opinion on it being the best new wheel for him personally because it suits the sort of feel he expects from his wheels, which is light, responsive and quick - ala' G27.

We're in a new era of Fanatec guys. I think the consumer group of Fanatec might become a little split in terms of perference in the coming months. 'cause as Shaun mentioned, the GT2 had a disctinctly different feel to it than this new CSR in that the GT2 is more weight and suitable for street car driving (which I've always had a hunch about - confirmed) and the CSR is more suitable for race car sims.
And that doesn't mean one's better than the other for going fast in either discipline, it's simply two ways of getting to the same thing, it's just that one's more in the spirit of the discipline than the other.

It's my absolute dream wheel. The only complaints I have about my G27 is that it isn't compatible with the 360, doesn't have a very comfortable rim, and isn't very customizable for feel (having to go through a program everytime on the computer when playing different PC sims isn't exactly awesome). Having the awesome grip, the compatability, and the on-the-wheel tuning makes me a very happy young dude.

Thanks Thomas and thanks ISR for the quick review!
 
Nice video review! Can't wait to see the CSR Elite.

I didnt know that there was so many people that use the h pattern so much..... To me the fanatec shifters look odd, but if they work well I guess that's all that matters. Because I think the G27 shifter is horrible so online all I use are paddles.
 
So I gather from the review that the CSR is faster than the older fanatec wheels, but not as fast as the g27/25.
I'm thinking of upgrading my g25 but I'm not going to buy something that's slower than my g25, because I like to do some drifting too. The t500rs looks like it would be perfect for me and I like that the paddles don't move with the wheel like a real car. But I'm interested in an xbox360 too, but never bought one because my g25 won't work with it, so the CSR is tempting, just I definitely won't buy a new wheel unless it's about as fast as the t500rs.
So can anyone clear up how fast the CSR is compared to g25 and t500rs?
 
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Vaxxtx
Not only totally off topic, but wrong thread as well.

And just for the record, Fanatec CS has been extremely good lately according to GTP members.
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I agree:tup:

First time for me ordering a Fanatec product and had to sort out shipping with them because I am not part of the EU. I must have emailed them at least 10 or so times to sort out this issue, and they were very quick to respond 👍
 
amf7
Darin gangi has pretty much fixed the problems as far as o know
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It's not all about Darin. Whilst he had no doubt helped.

I've corresponded with others from Fanatec who have helped immensely.

Team work.
 
It's cool that Fanatec stepped up their customer service thanks to Darin. I hope he extends this courtesy to everyone, and not just people at GTPlanet.
 
Crap, still working out bugs on CSR Elite according to the post on Forza board. That means probable delivery Q1 next year and missing the Christmas season for them :nervous:

I've read about the customer service issues and have given it some thought. I've also done some cursory research on Endor, all public knowledge. I have to admire what Thomas is trying to do. He has a small company trying to be innovative and make money at the same time and satisfy his investors. Not exactly easy. They are not Amazon or even Logitech for that matter and it is difficult to provide service and support like these big companies with lots of resources. Not making any excuses for their past support and good to see it is getting better.

At the end of the day, these are specialized products with a relatively small market. I've decided I'm going to buy a wheel from them and take a chance on the small company, not because they are small, but because I think they have the best product for my needs right now. Supporting them is a side benefit of my purchase so they can keep innovating and so we have more choice and options in the future.

I just wish i could buy the CSR Elite NOW....:)
 
noobs
Crap, still working out bugs on CSR Elite according to the post on Forza board. That means probable delivery Q1 next year and missing the Christmas season for them :nervous:

I've read about the customer service issues and have given it some thought. I've also done some cursory research on Endor, all public knowledge. I have to admire what Thomas is trying to do. He has a small company trying to be innovative and make money at the same time and satisfy his investors. Not exactly easy. They are not Amazon or even Logitech for that matter and it is difficult to provide service and support like these big companies with lots of resources. Not making any excuses for their past support and good to see it is getting better.

At the end of the day, these are specialized products with a relatively small market. I've decided I'm going to buy a wheel from them and take a chance on the small company, not because they are small, but because I think they have the best product for my needs right now. Supporting them is a side benefit of my purchase so they can keep innovating and so we have more choice and options in the future.

I just wish i could buy the CSR Elite NOW....:)
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How do you know forza sources are.legit... I do believe you however I would want a better source
 
noobs
Crap, still working out bugs on CSR Elite according to the post on Forza board. That means probable delivery Q1 next year and missing the Christmas season for them :nervous:
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Good to know. Even though I don't have the money for the Elite, I still hope Fanatec delivers a solid product at their first official dispatch to the customers. I'd rather they find bugs and fix them now than having to replace them like for the GT2 (from what I've read). Maybe I should be patient and save up enough for the Elite...
 
Fanatec...
We actually did a design change but not because of the TM shifter. So far there was no car on the market that really had a 7 speed manual gearbox and it makes no sense for me to use a h-pattern gearbox on cars which only have paddle shifters so we planned to make a 6+1 speed shifter.
But after Porsche introduced the new 911 with 7+1 speed shifter we reconsidered this position and went back to the drawing board.

Other than that, I did not see any reason to make changes. And I did not see any big surprise to be honest.
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Thanks for the reply thomas. Good to hear it. Looks like the 7 speed is is going to catch on GM Followed suit and is using one in the new vette now too.
 
amf7
How do you know forza sources are.legit... I do believe you however I would want a better source
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I found the source. It was thomas' blog. Here is the text. Oh well wait and see.

Submitted by Thomas on Fri, 09/30/2011 - 05:14.
This post will show the status of the shipments of the whole CSR product line.

CSR wheel
CSR Elite Pedals
CSR Shifter Set
EU:

Ship to arrive on Oct 4th. Custom clearance in EU usually only takes a few days.

US:

Ship has arrrived and goods are in customs clearance. We expect the goods to be ready to ship in week 40.

CSR Elite Wheel
Production has not started yet. We expect production in November if final tests are succesful. We are still eliminating a few flaws.

CSR Pedals
CSR IKIT
Production will start in late October and shipments to arrive in early December (estimate)

The CSW will be made shortly after the CSR E and we have some special plans how to launch this product.


Thomas's blog
 
"As fast turning as the g27, smoother than the g27, more versatility than the g27, faster quicker turning than other 911wheels from the past" - Shaun Cole.
this is good news. I really like a wheel with a race car feel to it...and fast. I remember ISR had a review where Gangi was faster w/ the g27 by a good margin than any of the wheels they reviewed. When i upgraded from a dfgt its one of the things i noticed right away, my lap times were faster the first time i used my g27 without trying too hard. I'm keeping an eye on the CSR Elite wheel..if this wheel is as fast as my g27 and smoother (which i think will be) then it's done, I will be doing business with Fanatec.
 
II-zOoLoGy-II
For US: Week 40 - Oct. 3 through Oct. 9

Looks like I might get it in time for Forza 4 after all!
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Thats awesome news. But is that shipping time...or delivery time...because from my last order it took 5 days from origin scan to my door.
 
noobs
I just wish i could buy the CSR Elite NOW....:)
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If i could have bought a CSR Elite CLubsport Package with rim that doesnt have the alu/corbon plate in it, with the CSS and the CSEbrake, then i would have done it this second... But i couldnt. So GT2 it was.. Everything got delivered within days, and works as far as i can tell, so Fanatec's fine in that departement.
 
Mr Latte
The CSR doesnt support additional rims. The CSR Elite can remove its rim yet will have a "limited range" available in the future according to Fanatec chart. That will likely depend on the sales and demand of the CSR Elite wheel when more options appear.

For most they have to determine do they want X360 support or the extra benefits the CSW brings for simulation and the PC hardcore.
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The point to my rant was that I would like to buy a CSR Elite wheel, but I need more of an incentive to do so. In comparison to other wheels like the CSW and T500, it doesn't seem like as great of a value.

I don't know about you, but I've been waiting for a high end wheel on the xbox 360 for a long time. Not only do I want the extra benefits that the CSW brings, but I want it on the 360, and I want it to be guaranteed. Saying there is a technical possibility for something, but it depends on future support, means very little to me as a potential buyer. I will not take the chance on buying that wheel if it means I can get shafted if they decide never to release an additional rim. I only need a new wheel for xbox support, so unless something changes with the Elite, I might as well go with a GT2 or CSR and be happy with whatever it can give me. At least those are a much better value at the moment.

My apologies if my ranting is annoying anybody. This just seems like the best place to bring attention to what I feel would make the Elite more of a hit with potential buyers.
 
More incentive to do so?

FM4 of course. Id of thought it was more than enough incentive and to experience that game on a wheel that should equal or better the T500RS / GT5 experience.

Do you think that people won't find a way to modify the Elite for their own d.i.y rims?
 

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