Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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So the CSS won't do sequential shifting at the end ?

P. Reeto
When i upgraded from a dfgt its one of the things i noticed right away, my lap times were faster the first time i used my g27 without trying too hard. I'm keeping an eye on the CSR Elite wheel..if this wheel is as fast as my g27 and smoother (which i think will be) then it's done, I will be doing business with Fanatec.
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Wheel sure helps, but maybe pedals set helped a lot as well.
 
Help me out someone: I've been wading through all this, but can't find the answer to this :

Does the new CRS shifter have a built in hard-mount option?
 
Just a friendly reminder to everyone that this thread is not for posting your past experiences with Fanatec (look here) but to discuss their new line of products. Thanks.


Jerome
 
SC Juggernaut
The point to my rant was that I would like to buy a CSR Elite wheel, but I need more of an incentive to do so. In comparison to other wheels like the CSW and T500, it doesn't seem like as great of a value.

I don't know about you, but I've been waiting for a high end wheel on the xbox 360 for a long time. Not only do I want the extra benefits that the CSW brings, but I want it on the 360, and I want it to be guaranteed. Saying there is a technical possibility for something, but it depends on future support, means very little to me as a potential buyer. I will not take the chance on buying that wheel if it means I can get shafted if they decide never to release an additional rim. I only need a new wheel for xbox support, so unless something changes with the Elite, I might as well go with a GT2 or CSR and be happy with whatever it can give me. At least those are a much better value at the moment.

My apologies if my ranting is annoying anybody. This just seems like the best place to bring attention to what I feel would make the Elite more of a hit with potential buyers.
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Understood, I think a lot of us feel some of these same feelings. But in case you have not been following the whole long story, there are severe limitations Microsoft puts on any controller certified to work with the 360, down to a strict number of buttons even. So while there is a good chance the Elite will be modded (by Fanatec or even end users) the chances of using "the extra benefits the CSW brings" (benefots over the Elite, that is) are slim on the 360. What I hope for is a solution which will deliver the Elite, possibly w/ a formula shaped rim as an option, and then also other options which go above and beyond but would only work on PC (due to M$ limits), all while using the same Elite/CSW style base. Ideal would be a CSW with an optional removable wheel(s) which have the built in limited M$ controller functions. Remove that via quick release and put on a more full featured rim for a PC when needed. That would rock but I've seen no indication that is even permissible or feasible...

So in my case I may need to live w/ the GT2 I have for Forza 4, and a CSW for everything else, but changing wheel bases would be a PITA and I'd like the smoother stronger feedback of the Elite/CSW on Forza ideally too. Just understand a lot of this is beyond Fanatec's control when it comes to Microsoft..
 
WildRun
LOL same current price than T500 RS. But Xbox compatible.
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+ 29 € for shipment.

And now you can find T500 RS under 400 € including shipment (and is a better wheel, in any case).


But I agree that FM4 play is priceless.
 
Wardez
Wow! If Shaun says he's using it in his rig then that makes me VERY happy!

He plays everything I do and has loved his G27, just like me. So hearing that part toward the end about its higher precision and quicker feel just made me gitty. It can't come soon enough!

@Pat
btw, yes, if he's using it on his rig then he's saying it's more than solid for all platforms. This includes iRacing for the PC and probably even GT. Come to think of it, now I can't wait to try it out on GT!

But he also mentioned that it's the best Xbox wheel, but that's not saying too much since the only real comparable wheel was the GT2. And I think he was simply giving his opinion on it being the best new wheel for him personally because it suits the sort of feel he expects from his wheels, which is light, responsive and quick - ala' G27.

We're in a new era of Fanatec guys. I think the consumer group of Fanatec might become a little split in terms of perference in the coming months. 'cause as Shaun mentioned, the GT2 had a disctinctly different feel to it than this new CSR in that the GT2 is more weight and suitable for street car driving (which I've always had a hunch about - confirmed) and the CSR is more suitable for race car sims.
And that doesn't mean one's better than the other for going fast in either discipline, it's simply two ways of getting to the same thing, it's just that one's more in the spirit of the discipline than the other.

It's my absolute dream wheel. The only complaints I have about my G27 is that it isn't compatible with the 360, doesn't have a very comfortable rim, and isn't very customizable for feel (having to go through a program everytime on the computer when playing different PC sims isn't exactly awesome). Having the awesome grip, the compatability, and the on-the-wheel tuning makes me a very happy young dude.

Thanks Thomas and thanks ISR for the quick review!
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thanks for the info and opinion!

This CSR is very tempting...but I think i will hold out for the CSR Elite and see how it compares in the reviews. In a perfect world I would buy the CSR/CSRElite for my xobx360 and the CSW for my PC/PS3! haha

good point about the "new era of Fanatec"
and at the start of 2011 I had written off Fanatec after hearing about the build quality issues and the lack of customer service! It seems they are very focused on the build and with Darin Gangi helping with customer service Fanatec has really turned themselves around! 👍
imho,ymmv of course!
 
Hi guys! New to this forum, I've read quite a lot these last two days and am currently bargaining hard with the wife to buy a CSR wheel + CSRE or CSP pedals set...

I've been playing FM since the first one and have just broke the MS wheel which was quite good IMHO for casual gaming prone on the leather couch =)

Just one thing i've always missed with any wheel is the analog stick that allows you to look sideways (and take pictures, etc.)...

I know Kinect is gonna solve the problem, but will the little stick on the left emulate an analog stick or is it only a fancy d-pad?
 
mikemav
Understood, I think a lot of us feel some of these same feelings. But in case you have not been following the whole long story, there are severe limitations Microsoft puts on any controller certified to work with the 360, down to a strict number of buttons even. So while there is a good chance the Elite will be modded (by Fanatec or even end users) the chances of using "the extra benefits the CSW brings" (benefots over the Elite, that is) are slim on the 360. What I hope for is a solution which will deliver the Elite, possibly w/ a formula shaped rim as an option, and then also other options which go above and beyond but would only work on PC (due to M$ limits), all while using the same Elite/CSW style base. Ideal would be a CSW with an optional removable wheel(s) which have the built in limited M$ controller functions. Remove that via quick release and put on a more full featured rim for a PC when needed. That would rock but I've seen no indication that is even permissible or feasible...

So in my case I may need to live w/ the GT2 I have for Forza 4, and a CSW for everything else, but changing wheel bases would be a PITA and I'd like the smoother stronger feedback of the Elite/CSW on Forza ideally too. Just understand a lot of this is beyond Fanatec's control when it comes to Microsoft..
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I'm sure we all understand by now that it is beyond their control when it comes to Microsoft, but I would like Fanatec to officially stand up and let us potential customers know more details, before I make my decision on what I want to buy. I'm not trying to troll here, I'm actually a serious customer.

Forza 4 will be here in less than 2 weeks, and I got my Limited Edition pre ordered so I have it ready to go day 1. If I'm going to pass on the Elite, I want to order something else right now. So far, we already know the possibility for an attachment is there. I just want to know if their support will be there, as in whether or not they will sell official solutions. Anyone technical enough can make a DIY rim for it that will work on PC, but that is not what I'm looking for. I'm only interested in additional rims that will work on the xbox, and I'd prefer to get one made officially by fanatec for the Elite. I have my doubts that Microsoft will allow them to make a wheel add-on that works on the 360, and that is the last factor I'm looking at that will decide whether or not I buy that wheel. Even if they release rims that work for PS3/PC, it's still not going to be enough of a sell for me. I'd rather they come out and say yes or no, instead of saying maybe, and continuing to lead people on. If their answer continues to be "wait and see", I will pass. If pre orders for that wheel go up before they say anything more about it at all, I'm going to pass on it.

I'm not trying to say that anyone has to care about what I choose to do, but that's my current stance on the whole situation, and I know there are others out there in the same boat. If Mr.T can spend the time to come on the internet to talk about Fanatec's products when someone tries to relate Thrustmaster stuff to theirs, he can also come on the internet and at least let people know when Fanatec will be ready to talk more about this matter.
 
I did already make statements about this matter but I am happy to repeat myself.

We made the rim exchangeable for a good reason and our motivation was not to make it easier for modders. It is hard to make a mod anyway as you need our electronics.

So it is liekely that there will be at least two more wheel rims for the CSR Elite. I wouls say it will be one more smaller like the Formula rim and one bigger like the GT rim.

But I cannot commit to anything as we did not start those projects now. We are bringing 12 new products to the market this year and we are extremely busy with that so we cannot start more projects. Having said that, it should not be very difficult to turn a CSW rim into a CSR E rim. We just need a new wheel PCBA and take off some buttons and the rev meter LEDs.
 
Fanatec...
I did already make statements about this matter but I am happy to repeat myself.

We made the rim exchangeable for a good reason and our motivation was not to make it easier for modders. It is hard to make a mod anyway as you need our electronics.

So it is liekely that there will be at least two more wheel rims for the CSR Elite. I wouls say it will be one more smaller like the Formula rim and one bigger like the GT rim.

But I cannot commit to anything as we did not start those projects now. We are bringing 12 new products to the market this year and we are extremely busy with that so we cannot start more projects. Having said that, it should not be very difficult to turn a CSW rim into a CSR E rim. We just need a new wheel PCBA and take off some buttons and the rev meter LEDs.
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Thank you for your response. What I actually want confirmation on is if those additional rims will work on xbox 360, with current xbox 360 games, or will it be limited to PS3/PC use.
 
SC Juggernaut
You mean Thrustmaster.

PD would be the equivalent to saying Turn 10 in the case of this product.
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No, I meant PD as they're well known for a serious lack of communication.
It's nice to see the top man regularly in touch with his customers at 'ground level' as it were.

As for your question regarding the add-on wheels working for 360, I'd imagine they would since Thomas mentioned having to change the PCBA, buttons and rev meters to adapt a CSW wheel work on the CSRe. I don't think there'd be much point otherwise, given that people choose the CSRe due to it's 360 compatibility.
 
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Ya Pops
No, I meant PD as they're well known for a serious lack of communication.
It's nice to see the top man regularly in touch with his customers at 'ground level' as it were.

As for your question regarding the add-on wheels working for 360, I'd imagine they would since Thomas mentioned having to change the PCBA, buttons and rev meters to adapt a CSW wheel work on the CSRe.
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Ah, so you really mean Thomas in relation to Kaz. That does not surprise me, because Thomas comes off as being a person who seems to be more connected to the sim racing scene on a personal level. You don't have to be someone of great importance in order to reach out to him personally, and that's cool.

As for my question about xbox 360 compatibility with add-on wheels, I certainly hope that's the case, but either way I would like to hear what Thomas, or Fanatec in general has to say about it. I'm not expecting it to be done here on GT right now, but sometime soon before they open pre ordering for the wheel, so I can decide whether I want an Elite or another model of wheel.
 
Well, he reckons there'll eventually be formula style and GT rims for the CSRe.
I doubt he'd release rims for a wheel that's marketed for 360 compatibility that render it incompatible :)
 
Just thought I'd repost this, as some may miss it. Hope it's not a problem.

Fanatec...
I did already make statements about this matter but I am happy to repeat myself.

We made the rim exchangeable for a good reason and our motivation was not to make it easier for modders. It is hard to make a mod anyway as you need our electronics.

So it is liekely that there will be at least two more wheel rims for the CSR Elite. I wouls say it will be one more smaller like the Formula rim and one bigger like the GT rim.

But I cannot commit to anything as we did not start those projects now. We are bringing 12 new products to the market this year and we are extremely busy with that so we cannot start more projects. Having said that, it should not be very difficult to turn a CSW rim into a CSR E rim. We just need a new wheel PCBA and take off some buttons and the rev meter LEDs.
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Just watched it on 911wheel.de but I have to watch it again just to see this thing LOL

This wheel will also be.good.for my lmp racing although the formula rim maybe better could you advise Thomas

Laughed at the bit on 5 mins lol it dosent just look like the real thing... It is the real thing
 
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