Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Pdreams
The steering assist is an interesting thing but is noticeable to the driver? If there had been no display, would anyone have felt it.

I am just wondering whether if its still possible to perform a drift as in GT5 or does the game continues to correct any oversteer events.
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Very noticeable even without telemetry. You know something's wrong when your wheel is only turned 90 degrees but you're holding a massive slide and your front wheels are visibly turned to opposite lock. It makes correcting a slide unnecessarily snappy and sometimes overcorrects. For anyone with experience in real life or a good sim drifting, you really use all of the 450 degrees when you slide, but in FM4 with the assist you never need more than 90.
 
Raitziger
So he is still blaming the 900 degree wheels?
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I think he is saying the game handles 900 degree wheels in a specific way, he is not saying the fault is located in the 900 degree wheels.

Raitziger
But he is wrong that steering assist does not show in telemetry. (of course there are no blinking indicator when the secret assist is turned on)
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The steering assist he mentions is probably another assist.
The weird behavior/"assist" shown in videos seems to be another thing and he says it is isolated to 900 degree wheels and shows in the telemetry.
 
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The whole steering assist thing seems to be getting overblown.
Additionally if its an issue with 900 degrees when the full game comes out it can be properly tested with different cars to be sure its not in the games physics. Will all cars suffer from it and to what point in reducing the Fanatec wheel rotation when does it stop having the effect it does?

Im sure people can get around the issue by using less than 900 degrees and still have a great experience however perhaps the issue lies with Fanatec and can be addressed with a firmware update?
 
Mr Latte
The whole steering assist thing seems to be getting overblown.
Additionally if its an issue with 900 degrees when the full game comes out it can be properly tested with different cars to be sure its not in the games physics. Will all cars suffer from it and to what point in reducing the Fanatec wheel rotation when does it stop having the effect it does?

Im sure people can get around the issue by using less than 900 degrees and still have a great experience however perhaps the issue lies with Fanatec and can be addressed with a firmware update?
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It has to be in-game, you can hold the wheel with a fixed amount of lock and see it 'snap' back when the car stops.. I'm sure it's something T10 will find, and hopefully patch.. They could do with removing the 'wobble' from the telemetry as well, that doesn't look good and is present at any wheel SENS setting.. and that's not wheel related either..
 
Mr Latte
The whole steering assist thing seems to be getting overblown.
Additionally if its an issue with 900 degrees when the full game comes out it can be properly tested with different cars to be sure its not in the games physics. Will all cars suffer from it and to what point in reducing the Fanatec wheel rotation when does it stop having the effect it does?

Im sure people can get around the issue by using less than 900 degrees and still have a great experience however perhaps the issue lies with Fanatec and can be addressed with a firmware update?
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It happens exactly the same way with all cars in the demo. I'm 100% sure it's the game's fault, not the wheel's fault. Remember it only triggers the steering lock change on oversteer and the wheel has no idea what oversteer is. It has to be the game causing the problem, not the wheel.
 
It might be some physics issue, a bug in the code that causes the correction. I don't think that T10 is intentionally turn the assist on and the try to cover that up, no point there for me.
As Latte said, this issue is getting overblown. I'm sure T10 and Fanatec will figure something out so let's move on to something else rather than repeating the same thing again and again.
I would appreciate some more reviews of new CSR and the CSRE P, more news about the CSRE wheel...
 
buttsneeze
It happens exactly the same way with all cars in the demo. I'm 100% sure it's the game's fault, not the wheel's fault
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I agree with this and I haven't seen anyone else post otherwise.

Why is this in the Fanatec announcements thread?
Forza thread is rife with this topic and unless someone can prove it's the wheels fault could we keep the Fault of the game in the Games thread.

I'm sure Thomas's attention has been got and he is making enquiry's.

Pretty sure Thomas's won't reveal to much either, as it's not his end with the issue.

Similar theme to the GT5, and the G27 series of wheels having issues.
That is for PD to sort there end not Logitech.

Same principle.

Although I'm sure if the CEO of logitech posted here, his inbox would be flooded too.
 
Shark33
Look at his right hand.
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lol, epic fail!!
 
Just an FYI. My order of the CSR Elite Pedals went from "pending" to "delivered".

Looks like we are getting our products soon here in the USA.
 
ibuycheap
The license adds some cost sure, but having the FM4 branding could have even brought the cost down since it becomes a cross promotion deal. You could be right about Microsoft having a max price point which took the quick disconnect off the table. Not having the buttons and joysticks is just because the Xbox won't support it. //That said the 911 wheel has 2 extra buttons the Xbox doesn't support

It is kind of odd that the original spec for the wheel api on the Xbox 360 //back in 2005// had a 6 speed shifter and clutch. That is pretty forward thinking of them when you consider the g25 came out in 2006 and was the only popular wheel to have it.

Why won't Microsoft just add to the spec the same way they are adding the handbrake to the spec. (Unless I missed something the handbrake was not in the original spec) The handbrake is probably more niche than adding an extra joystick on the wheel.
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"That said the 911 wheel has 2 extra buttons the Xbox doesn't support"

Excellent point, if they can licence the 911 with extra buttons, then why can’t they do the same for the CSW. Why not make a rim/rims for Xbox, with the extra features not included.
 
Is there anybody who has a "delivered" message on his order in Europe? Specially I'm interested who has ordered a CSR shifter ;)
Thx
 
II-zOoLoGy-II
Anyone know if they will supply a tracking number upon shipment?
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You should receive 2 emails. First from Fanatec stating "your order will ship now" Second from UPS with tracking info. The UPS one takes 1-2 days to appear after the Fanatec one.

My order too switched to delivered. Can't wait! CSR shifter set, USA
 
Mohamu
Is there anybody who has a "delivered" message on his order in Europe? Specially I'm interested who has ordered a CSR shifter ;)
Thx
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No, I emailed them earlier and they told me orders will be shipped next week.

Everybody will have theirs before me as mine has to go to a friends UK address first, then sent on to me :ouch:
 
Hmm...what are the chances I will have working pedals (standards broke) before release of FM4? I am guessing the chances are slim....damnit.:ill:
 
Vaxxtx
Hmm...what are the chances I will have working pedals (standards broke) before release of FM4? I am guessing the chances are slim....damnit.:ill:
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I can't bring myself to have a proper go at the FM4 demo as I don't want to be using a pad :ouch:
 
GTP_Plato
I can't bring myself to have a proper go at the FM4 demo as I don't want to be using a pad :ouch:
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Well, my brakes go from 55-65%, and its so erratic I cant have a decent go at it either.

I am surpised Fanatec doesnt give a faster shipping option. I know I wouldnt pay for 2 day or overnight, but I can assure there are those that would.
 
SC Juggernaut
Not for the current price point. That is an important point you seem to miss. If we were to focus on the amount of value you are getting for the money you are spending, the Elite falls short at its current cost.

Above it for $100 more, the CSW is a better buy in comparison. The T500 set, which includes pedals, is a better value in comparison.
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Actually you missed the point. I specified someone not interested in the supposed value of the addons AND WHO LIKED THE CSR-E rim in particular. The availability of add ons to someone not interested in them doesn't change the value proposition.

SC Juggernaut
I made mention to branding in response to something mentioned by sandboxgod. Not to sound rude but I really couldn't care less why it was done.
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Well pedantic as it may be you said "I agree with everything you just said" while quoting sandboxgod who mentioned the cost increasing due to the licensing F4.

So logically you did care even though you don't. :)
 
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ibuycheap
Actually you missed the point. I specified someone not interested in the supposed value of the addons AND WHO LIKED THE CSR-E rim in particular. The availability of add ons to someone not interested in them doesn't change the value proposition.
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Value is the end users preference. Like buying a pair of Nikes for 10 bucks sounds like a good value, unless you have not feet. Great deal, but you wont be using them.

There are options for a reason. Basically I agree with you.
 
Just got this email:

Dear Anthony,

thanks a lot for your order no.21618 and the pre-payment.
The goods will be shipped now to:
Anthony P.
XXX XXXXXX Rd.

Danville PA 17821
United States

When the goods will leave the warehouse, we will send you an email with the tracking number.

Best regards
www_fanatec_com / Fanatec_Gameshop
Endor USA LLC, 8200 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 200, Beverly Hills, CA 90211, U.S.A.,telephone: +1 (866) 292-6226, fax: +1 (323) 556-0601, operated by Endor AG, Seligenthaler Stra?e 16 a, 84034 Landshut, Germnay, telephone +49 (871) 9221-122 - telefax +49 (871) 9221-221, Web. www.ENDOR.ag; www.FANATEC.com - e-mail: order@fanatec.com, webshop.usa@endor.ag, registered office Landshut Register of Commerce / Local Court Landshut, HRB 5487; Chief Executive Officer: Thomas Jackermeier (chairman), Andr?s Semsey; board of directors: Andreas Potthoff


Please post when you get yours mates/chaps/folks! Looks like they got it in a few days early!
 

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