Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

[Simmpa]

To add to the Clubsport line is the Clubsport Shifter/Handbrake. It's metal, makes a clank, and is compatible to all platforms. The Clubsport Handbrake (Photo Above) is rally style, and only Xbox Compatible. It connects to the CSP's.

So far, this is really all the information we have at this moment. Stay tuned for Gamescon announcements, or participate in the discussion, we have many people that can answer your questions. Like Thomas, or "Mr.T".

That shifter looks different than the clubsport shifter wich is now available.

 

[12thgear]

There is no currently shipping ClubSport Shifter. It's still in development and represented by that photo. There is a ClubSport Paddle upgrade available, made of carbon fiber. The CSR Shifters are just a refresh of the older Porsche Shifters.

 

[FuzzyFassbender]

Well, let me ask another way. Can any of you new CSR owners hear the fan in your wheel? Very noticable? Mine seems to be a fairly annoying high pitched whine very noticable when its quiet in the room.

Note: It "seemed" that many were getting the CSR but now that they have been released I get no response to a question. I know that this is an "announcement" thread but I didn't want to create a post just for a simple question.

Anyone?

 

[Caz]

While not a csr owner, i do own a gt2. I know the whine you are talking about as it is present in my wheel. It goes away after a couple minutes though.

 

[FuzzyFassbender]

While not a csr owner, i do own a gt2. I know the whine you are talking about as it is present in my wheel. It goes away after a couple minutes though.

Thanks Caz but mine doesn't go away and it sure isn't hot in the room (68 degs). I guess I could make believe it's the whine of my cars supercharger

 

[varmintx]

Yeah, the fan noise is pretty annoying (and doesn't go away); luckily, I have my sound turned up so loud that it kind of drowns it out.

 

[Caz]

Thanks Caz but mine doesn't go away and it sure isn't hot in the room (68 degs). I guess I could make believe it's the whine of my cars supercharger

Gotta be creative! 👍

 

[bigbembem]

I´m sorry but I have a bit an off-topic question. My cockpit doesn´t have much space on the left and right side, and I want to buy the CSR shifter set. Does anyone know how far the shifter set, mounted with the two aluminium tubes, is away from the wheel base?

Thanks,

 

[sonac]

Those two aluminum tubes can slide through the wheel, so you can push them in and have them come out on the other side, if there's not enough room on the shifter's side. You can have the shifter as close to the wheel as you want.
Total length of the tubes is about 44cm.

 

[bigbembem]

ok, thanks

 

[dECEIT70]

As far as the aluminium rods go, here are some more photographs of my setting.

The arrows show the alignment of Kinect with the head of driver and the way it misinterprets sometimes the wheel with the head (hence the connecting/disconnecting problem many have). Headtracking is nonetheless a great add-on and very helpful with your driving making you look far away... (sorry if off-topic!).

Concerning the fan noise of my CSR, it's medium loud, easily drowned in the overall 5.1 dolby car noises FM4 produces, bt it's in no way high-pitched. Sorry.

Since the CSR is 'lighter' and then 'quicker' than a GT2, are the settings recommended the same? What numbers should I set in my config? For FM4, of course...

Last one

 

[Mr Latte]

Right I find this rather annoying situation....

So my friend got his CSR, he only ordered the wheel and the pedal adapter.
His plan was to use the "X360 Wheel Pedals" with the adapter. I questioned in this thread at least twice if it worked as the comparison chart did not list it, only G25.

It turns out the friend is telling me the X360 Wheel pedals swap over with brake being throttle and throttle as brake on FM4. He has it all connected correctly but really their is no wrong way of doing it.

Lets say hes not impressed having FM4 sitting to be played with his new wheel and this being the first ever Fanatec product he's ordered mainly from my own recommendation as a friend. Ive had to give him a set of G25 pedals to at least let him enjoy his wheel / game and they seem to work fine with the adapter.

Embarrising really and how/why do these things happen? With ISR having a wheel for months they should of tested/mentioned this or someone at Fanatec made it clear if indeed the X360 pedals with the adapter are not compatible then to at least have it clearly listed as such on the website. Un;ess of course it is some other fault or issue with the game?

If others have the CSR wheel & adapter please confirm if this also happens on yours.

 

[LostRacer]

Mr. Latte-
I do sympathize, however why did he not contact Fanatec before making the plunge? As you stated those pedals aren't even listed. You should never assume. I hope those G25 pedals work I remember seeing issues with those as well. I've yet to update to the CSR due to the 0xp 0cash issue. Good luck to your friend.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Gonna take the plunge Friday and go for the Fanatec GT2 Clubsport package. Its a very good deal with all that you get included.

Main question, how much of an improvment is the CS Table clamp over the normal wheel clamp?

 

[12thgear]

Gonna take the plunge Friday and go for the Fanatec GT2 Clubsport package. Its a very good deal with all that you get included.

Main question, how much of an improvment is the CS Table clamp over the normal wheel clamp?

The standard clamp is a quick release cam. Most people have trouble getting a really secure lock. The trick is to ease the wheel forward about 2mm so you get a tighter fit before locking the cam. Then you the natural flex in the plastic acts like a spring and keeps it pretty secure. Don't overdo it though.

The advantages of the ClubSport Table Clamp are many: It uses a locking knob that is supposed to be very secure. It lets you tilt the wheel forward to adjust the angle. It includes a hard point for mounting the shifter very securely.

 

[redmalloc]

Wording it a bit more strongly -> I found the built in clamp worthless. The clamp in the DFGT is vastly superior for example.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Cheers guys. I didnt notice however that the CS clamp is out of stock till the end of November. Getting a GamePod GT2 in Janunary so probably wont bother with a CS clamp.

Thanks for the advice though nonetheless.

 

[Mr Latte]

Mr. Latte-
I do sympathize, however why did he not contact Fanatec before making the plunge? As you stated those pedals aren't even listed. You should never assume. I hope those G25 pedals work I remember seeing issues with those as well. I've yet to update to the CSR due to the 0xp 0cash issue. Good luck to your friend.

Yes indeed I raised the point that it wasnt listed and placed calls for confirmation here and on the official blog forums which I believe have been ignored. My friend has contacted their CS department so we will see what they say.

The wheel is based off the same chassis as previous wheels so their was little reason to assume it wouldnt work. As yet I do not know if its just a case of him having a wonky pedal adapter so perhaps someone else can confirm if indeed theirs is the same.

If it is the case it doesnt work then isnt it in the best interest of Fanatec to report this on their website as Im sure more people on a budget will think of doing the same as my friend and buy the wheel with the intent of using their X360 pedals.

Come on Thomas....
Also ISR made no comment about doing this with their big pedal comparison and latest CSR video.

*Maybe Sonac can find out?

 

[daz1976]

Thanks Caz but mine doesn't go away and it sure isn't hot in the room (68 degs). I guess I could make believe it's the whine of my cars supercharger

Mine is pretty loud too. Most of the time I play with headphones on so it's not a big deal, but must admit I'm not entirely happy about it being so loud, as I can def hear it when I'm playing through the speakers.

Daz

 

[Patrocles]

Gonna take the plunge Friday and go for the Fanatec GT2 Clubsport package. Its a very good deal with all that you get included.

Main question, how much of an improvment is the CS Table clamp over the normal wheel clamp?

Hey MildAshers,
Why not get a Fanatec CSR instead of a GT2? I thought the CSR is a slightly improved GT2?

 

[Mohamu]

Well, after I get my CSR shifter set, I can tell it is not totally what I was waiting for. Since I've get it, I'm looking for mods for them on the internet I'll mod the seq and the 6+1 shifter too because it feels like a toy and not like a shifter. The PS/2 cable is too short, and if I play 1-2 hours, it falls off the shifter while I'm driving. If anybody plans to buy a shifter set, I say let's wait for the Clubsport Shifter I bet it will be a lot better stuff.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Main reason really is cost. The GT2 and CSR are not that much different according to what I hear, slight improvements here and there. To get the CSR with the same items as the GT2 Clubsport package it would cost a total £466, plus £20 delivery, so £486

The GT2 clubsport package is £435 including delivery. Just over £50 saving. Plus I really love the Alcantara rim

 

[LogiForce]

Well, after I get my CSR shifter set, I can tell it is not totally what I was waiting for. Since I've get it, I'm looking for mods for them on the internet I'll mod the seq and the 6+1 shifter too because it feels like a toy and not like a shifter. The PS/2 cable is too short, and if I play 1-2 hours, it falls off the shifter while I'm driving. If anybody plans to buy a shifter set, I say let's wait for the Clubsport Shifter I bet it will be a lot better stuff.

Well from the videos I've watched I could only see those shifters as tactile switch boxes anyway. It's really a part that quality wise in my opinion doesn't fit with the high quality of the wheels. Let alone the new wheels with clubsport base like the CSW and CSR E.

Anyhow I will definitely wait for it. I still have a question though as I might order some pedals in advance. The guys who have played with both CSP and CSR EP. Which one to get and what makes the one better then the other? I'm a bit torn over the ABS motor vs Invert kit thing. I like my pedals hanging top down but never owned or driven an ABS car. So what will ABS bring me in terms of feel? Will it be a huge advantage? And I believe it's wheel and not game driven?

 

[ilonioum]

Well from the videos I've watched I could only see those shifters as tactile switch boxes anyway. It's really a part that quality wise in my opinion doesn't fit with the high quality of the wheels. Let alone the new wheels with clubsport base like the CSW and CSR E.

Anyhow I will definitely wait for it. I still have a question though as I might order some pedals in advance. The guys who have played with both CSP and CSR EP. Which one to get and what makes the one better then the other? I'm a bit torn over the ABS motor vs Invert kit thing. I like my pedals hanging top down but never owned or driven an ABS car. So what will ABS bring me in terms of feel? Will it be a huge advantage? And I believe it's wheel and not game driven?

ABS is just a system that locks/releases the brakes very fast making the braking very fast/efficient and helping to avoid any obstacles you might have ahead of you as when the wheels are locked turning the wheel will not have any effect at all and you will slide straight forward. So the only thing that ABS does to your pedal is that it creates the rumble effect that is the same if you very frequently push the brake pedal and then lift off. Nothing too special but hey, this is an extra feature even though a hardcore simracer wouldn't use an ABS for braking.

 

[LogiForce]

ABS is just a system that locks/releases the brakes very fast making the braking very fast/efficient and helping to avoid any obstacles you might have ahead of you as when the wheels are locked turning the wheel will not have any effect at all and you will slide straight forward. So the only thing that ABS does to your pedal is that it creates the rumble effect that is the same if you very frequently push the brake pedal and then lift off. Nothing too special but hey, this is an extra feature even though a hardcore simracer wouldn't use an ABS for braking.

I never used abs in games and am always able to avoid things. So meh...
Maybe I should just get the CSW with CSR EP's then. Still have to think about it.

I knew about what ABS does though and it's advantages. But even in real cars, relying on electronic systems that could break down unexpectedly isn't safer in my eyes. So never bothered with it in cars in real life, hence liking to drive without since I'm used to it anyways.

Thanks though for clarifying things. Although I am still undecided. -_-'

 

[MagpieRacer]

The club sports have better clutch and throttle I hear.

 

[redmalloc]

The value in the ABS feature is to know how much of the pedal you are using in order to more accurately modulate braking. Its called ABS because it feels like a real cars pedal when the ABS system kicks in (near lockup) but it is not ABS as far as controlling your sim-car.

For example I have wheel ABS set to 40, so when I reach 40% of my brake travel I feel the vibration. If in-game ABS is off it is a real benefit to knowing how close to lockup I am. Not that helpful in GT5 in-game w/ABS on honestly, but really helpful in iRacing.

 

[LogiForce]

Well to be I think getting to know your car is part of any type of driving whether normal or racing, sim or real. This for me includes getting to know the lockup point of the wheels in a variety of situations without abs. So I guess I won't bother too much with the abs motor feature.

The there is no difference apart from how the pedal travel is sensed by the different types of sensors used. And maybe the feel of the pedals if they differ?
Also can the clubsport maintenance kit be used for the CSR EP as well? To me it looks like it at first glance. I'm going to scan the Fanatec site some more to find some answers.

 

[redmalloc]

In real life if you lock the brakes don't you feel it through the pedal? Why would you not want that in the game?

 

[Jump_Ace]

Have any other new CSR wheel owners noticed a high pitched whine from the wheel's fan? Is the sound from your wheel's fan very noticable?
There is a way to set to ON or OFF with ON meaning full on all the time or OFF meaning it will run depending on need (temperature). It is a little annoying when things are quiet but not loud enough to notice much during action. Toggling the fan setting OFF does seem to quiet it down (maybe off completely) but only until I start my Xbox then it seems to run full on again. Haven't tried on my PC or PS3 yet.

Yep. Mine does the same thing, its a softer, high-pitch noise. There is a setting you can adjust on the wheel. It's the SHO setting, if you set that to zero, it will stop making that annoying noise. And the motor won't activate when you press the gas pedal HTH!

P.S. Remember, you will have to do it for each wheel 'setup' too.

Jerome