Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

[MRMR37]

Will there be a CSR/CSRE rim for the CSW ?

 

[LogiForce]

Will there be a CSR/CSRE rim for the CSW ?

Nothing is know yet other then the formula rim and BMW GT rim at start and the F1 rim later on.
The BMW rim is better then the CSR/CSRE rim and has the same shape. Round except flat on the bottom part.
So I don't know why you would want a CSR style rim.

 

[MRMR37]

From memory (i could be wrong) the BMW rim has material like suede or something.
I would be worried of its (as new) lifespan wearing out out under prolonged use. On grip positions etc. Want to look after it , naturaly.
Whereas the CSRE is plastic and could hotswap to that saving the BMW rim for those "special" races .
Hope I make a bit of sense

 

[Simracer92]

From memory (i could be wrong) the BMW rim has material like suede or something.
I would be worried of its (as new) lifespan wearing out out under prolonged use. On grip positions etc. Want to look after it , naturaly.
Whereas the CSRE is plastic and could hotswap to that saving the BMW rim for those "special" races .
Hope I make a bit of sense

THE CSRE is not plastic - Fanatec decided to change the materials! Now the wheel is mostly with coated with rubber and the grip positions are alcantara.
The CSW only uses Alcantara.

 

[blacbul67]

2012 BMW F1 car? There's no such thing.

It would be nice to see a Mercedes, or even better a McLaren wheel. Heck, even a fully functional generic HRT or Virgin-alike would be great, manufactuer branding isn't the end-all as long as it looks realistic.

Agreed functionality everytime for me

 

[scoddee]

EDIT: Moved to proper thread.

 

[LogiForce]

Agreed functionality everytime for me

Another faulty statement. Don't you think F1 drivers would want to use a rim that wasn't functional and handy to use? They are going fast enough already do they don't want a difficult rim. Lol

 

[scoddee]

Another faulty statement. Don't you think F1 drivers would want to use a rim that wasn't functional and handy to use? They are going fast enough already do they don't want a difficult rim. Lol

I don't think his statrment is faulty. I think he's saying functionality WITHOUT the added cost (hassle) of Manufacture branding.

Scotty

 

[MRMR37]

THE CSRE is not plastic - Fanatec decided to change the materials! Now the wheel is mostly with coated with rubber and the grip positions are alcantara.
The CSW only uses Alcantara.

Still, would stay newer for longer than alcantara? Correct me if i'm wrong

 

[Jump_Ace]

Cool beans, thank you Hawk. I'm anxiously awaiting the firmware 👍 So far the wheel gets a 9.8, .1 for each bug This wheel is just fantastic.

Jerome

 

[Dijital Majik]

If it has to look realistic first the real thing (or the original) has to be present in order to make a copy.

I don't think his statrment is faulty. I think he's saying functionality WITHOUT the added cost (hassle) of Manufacture branding.

Scotty

Exactly scoddee. It doesn't need branding or to copy exactly a specific real-life F1 wheel. All that matters is that it has the look and all the little extra bits not on the formula rim, that you'd expect on an F1 wheel such as a rev meter with gear and delta display, more labeled buttons, more rotories, clutch paddles, carbon fiber look etc. I'm sure Thomas's team could come up with a generic design taking elements from all the F1 wheels currently in use and come up with something that looks like it would fit on a generic F1 car. That is what I meant by 'realistic'.

If you didn't tell me, I would never know that this was the Marussia Virgin wheel if I saw it not on the car. Looks generic, but also looks F1.

Licensing is great, but if it hikes up the price too much or limits the features because of cost, then as scoddee says, functionality everytime.

 

[LogiForce]

Exactly scoddee. It doesn't need branding or to copy exactly a specific real-life F1 wheel. All that matters is that it has the look and all the little extra bits not on the formula rim, that you'd expect on an F1 wheel such as a rev meter with gear and delta display, more labeled buttons, more rotories, clutch paddles, carbon fiber look etc. I'm sure Thomas's team could come up with a generic design taking elements from all the F1 wheels currently in use and come up with something that looks like it would fit on a generic F1 car. That is what I meant by 'realistic'.

If you didn't tell me, I would never know that this was the Marussia Virgin wheel if I saw it not on the car. Looks generic, but also looks F1.

Licensing is great, but if it hikes up the price too much or limits the features because of cost, then as scoddee says, functionality everytime.

Isn't this what the Formula wheel already is basically? =/
Excluding the rotaries then. But for all I know Thomas has put that on a new version of the Formula wheel already.

 

[Dijital Majik]

Isn't this what the Formula wheel already is basically? =/

No.

 

[LogiForce]

No.

Then what the heck does a formula wheel represent? Indycar? Formula Ford? Just wondering.
I thought it was a basic wheel that represented all of the formula series wheels overall. An average of all of them. Thus including Formula 1.

Ah what the hell, as long as the car turns I don't care. Never mind the question. Besides an F1 wheel can also be round like in the JPS lotus 79 for example. *shrugs*

 

[DJ88]

Thomas said it himself in the post you talked about LogiForce.

Well, it looks more like a GP2 rim because it is just like that. The FORMULA rim is not our F1 rim. It is a generic Formula style rim. We will have a real F1 rim later with even more functionality.

It represents a generic Formula, open wheel style racing rim, not a generic Formula 1 rim.

 

[bermudakid]

maybe this seems like a silly question but ill ask anyway.....
What about the next gen of consoles? i mean we are on PS3 and 360 now but will this hardware work with future consoles. There are only a couple years away i suppose. And im thinking about the CSW, @ least 2 rims and the CS Pedals. That is over 1000$ i'm looking at & I'd like to get some future proofing in there somewhere.

P.S. i also hope the CSW works with the furture xbox.

 

[LogiForce]

Thomas said it himself in the post you talked about LogiForce.

It represents a generic Formula, open wheel style racing rim, not a generic Formula 1 rim.

Ehm... I will give up on the naming part.

Still, can't see how you can generalize this bunch ( http://www.google.nl/m/search?site=...htf=&his=&maction=&q=formula+1+steering+wheel ). There are simply too much differences. So what do we look for on a generic F1 rim? Rev LEDs, led display or big LCD display, encoders, buttons for what?, switches, shift paddles, clutch paddles, alcantara/leather/rubber?

 

[LogiForce]

maybe this seems like a silly question but ill ask anyway.....
What about the next gen of consoles? i mean we are on PS3 and 360 now but will this hardware work with future consoles. There are only a couple years away i suppose. And im thinking about the CSW, @ least 2 rims and the CS Pedals. That is over 1000$ i'm looking at & I'd like to get some future proofing in there somewhere.

P.S. i also hope the CSW works with the furture xbox.

As long as the next consoles support the HID protocol it will be compatible.
Microsoft wants to keep using their own XID protocol which they use now on the 360. That and together with their high demands it will be unlikely that the CSW will get support for the next Xbox.
The PS4 will probably keep using HID as I don't see a reason why Sony would get a license from MS for the XID protocol, or that they make a new protocol themselves.
The firmware is updatable like the previous Fanatec wheels, so as long as the companies would except the features of the wheel a compatible firmware could be made for the new consoles. At least in theory. I don't work for either of them nor Fanatec so don't turn this into a security for it being future proof as I just don't know for sure. It's just my technical insight says it probably wheel keep being supported on the PS4.

 

[redmalloc]

What about the next gen of consoles?

You can have no certainty of Xbox 360+1 support and honestly I think there is little hope in that. It just hasn't been MS' style.

Personally, I am thinking of the CSW as a PC compatible wheel that has PS3 support. It will be future proof on the PC and probably on the Sony platform but who can really say.

 

[HoiHman]

All the Porsche wheels and also the new CSR Wheel simulate the Logitech G25 when in PS3 mode.

How can you tell: Just connect your CSR to your PC and press the back and connect button (as you would for ps3 mode).

Windows will now recognize your CSR as a G25

You can even use the logitech gaming software.

Most likely this will be the case for the CSR Elite and the perhaps even the CSW.
The question than would be: Will the logitech wheels work on the PS4.

I think they will.

My concern for future proof compatibility is not with the CSW but with the CSR Elite. The main feature of this wheel is the Xbox360 compatibility, the wheel will be available in 2012 and we can expect a new xbox in 2013.

I posted this question on the Inside sim racing forum three weeks ago

Hi, Darin

I've a question about the CSR elite:

Microsoft will probably launch a new Xbox next year, will the CRS Elite be 'next' gen compatible?

When buying a new wheel that cost more than a console, this is a important question.

Do you have ANY info on this question?

But still no answer

 

[Mr Latte]

I would say Darin nor even Fanatec likely know yet what the next generation of consoles will support. Your not going to get an answer as the truth really is they wont know.

Your futureproofing idea is a bit flawed not that you want extended life from a purchase, thats understandable. However look at the fun and gaming you will miss out on "NOW" if you wait for "whatever" when new consoles are released.

These new high end wheels because of their quality and performance bring new life into past games too. So it is fun going back as I have been testing old games even like Sega Rally which wasnt the best games by any means but is really enjoyable on the new hardware, morseo than it was on G25 etc.

 

[HoiHman]

....... However look at the fun and gaming you will miss out on "NOW" if you wait for "whatever" when new consoles are released........

That's the big dilemma for me now.

I already have a CSR and it's great. I will buy the CSW next year.

I'm still thinking about buying the CSR Elite, if it was a 100% future (xbox) proof, i would buy it instantly and not even think about it (and selling my CSR)

The CSR Elite would be only for Forza 4, since all other racing games are also on the PC & PS3 and will be supported by the CSW

I'm gonna spend the money any way. If i am not buying the CSR Elite, i will probably buy a butt kicker (they are over € 200 in europe)

So what do you think Mr Latte (since you have both):

CSR + butt kicker of CSR-Elite without butt kicker?

 

[MrGoose]

CSR + butt kicker of CSR-Elite without butt kicker?

I would go for the CSR with the buttkicker, i really like the extra "in game" feeling you get from the kicker!! 👍

 

[hampus_dh]

Anything new on CSW or the BMW wheel?

Havent checked this thread in a while.
When will beta tests come for the CSW?

 

[Mr Latte]

That's the big dilemma for me now.

I already have a CSR and it's great. I will buy the CSW next year.

I'm still thinking about buying the CSR Elite, if it was a 100% future (xbox) proof, i would buy it instantly and not even think about it (and selling my CSR)

The CSR Elite would be only for Forza 4, since all other racing games are also on the PC & PS3 and will be supported by the CSW

I'm gonna spend the money any way. If i am not buying the CSR Elite, i will probably buy a butt kicker (they are over € 200 in europe)

So what do you think Mr Latte (since you have both):


As the X360 supports FFB which the original Xbox didnt and has severl controller and wheel manufacturers with released products. I would expect the next Xbox to be compaitble with X360 pheripherals.

If not, then via an adapter. Next gen consoles may have some other new features for controllers who knows but backwards compatibility for them with existing/current controllers etc should be something that will be possible.

CSR + butt kicker of CSR-Elite without butt kicker?

I cant tell you (yet) but I do see, not just on GT Planet but other forums where the CSR Elite isnt getting perhaps the attention it should. It has been overshadowed by the CSW but that's just my opinion because of ISR and the BMW video flaunting it. The CSRE hasnt been getting the same pre-release teasers or attention.

Some seem to be looking at the CSRE as just a small improvement over the CSR. Yet in fact its that awesome CSW with reduced features X360 cant use anyways and a different rim.

It's simple many bought the T500RS at the time for the best GT5 experience. If you want the best FM4 experience then their only is one wheel for that and well X360 in general, it's the Elite. This is evident in the CSRE specs.

 

[bigbembem]

talking about the CSW.....

I´m just back from a local gameshop/computershop. They always have a nice Racing setup standing over there with Dbox etc. Now they didn't have it anymore, so I asked why.
They said that after my call (a few weeks ago) about my Fanatec wheel they searched a bit on the web about Fanatec and now they probably become a dealer of their stuff.
Within three weeks they will probably have a Rennsport cockpit with three screen setup and most omportant of all: a CSW wheel! he said: the wheel with quick release, so it has to be the CSW.
They will get one, before the release (or that has to be within three weeks) of it and I'm allowed to play with it (not very long I think).

So I think I will write a bit about it (don't axpect to much), and say what I think of it

 

[HoiHman]

From fanatecwheel.com:


Small quantity of Clubsport wheels in December?

Submitted by sonac on Sat, 11/05/2011 - 14:40
I get many questions from people, who are waiting for the new Fanatec wheels and today we finally got some fresh information. Thomas from Fanatec shared*the following on iRacing forums in response to a question about Clubsport Wheel release:

Looks like I can keep my promise and we deliver some smaller quantity in december but we still need to take care about a few things and are fully focused on the CSR E at the moment. Most issues were mechanical so this will make progress on the CSW as well.*

How many is a "smaller quantity"? Who knows, but it will surely be very hard to get one, so keep your eyes peeled.

As you may know, CSR Elite wheel is still in beta testing, but should be available before the Clubsport wheel. Fanatec is also sending out more Beta CSR Elite wheels in full retail packaging soon (GTP forums, ISR forums, iRacing forums) and those who get them will be able to describe their experience and write a review at the end, so expect lots of information about it in November. As Thomas said, mechanical fixes that Fanatec*made on CSR Elite translate well to the Clubsport wheel, because those two wheels use almost the same base, so even though they decided to get CSRE on the market first, that does not mean CSW is being put on hold.

 

[paskowitz]

From fanatecwheel.com:

Small quantity of Clubsport wheels in December?

Submitted by sonac on Sat, 11/05/2011 - 14:40
I get many questions from people, who are waiting for the new Fanatec wheels and today we finally got some fresh information. Thomas from Fanatec shared*the following on iRacing forums in response to a question about Clubsport Wheel release:

Looks like I can keep my promise and we deliver some smaller quantity in december but we still need to take care about a few things and are fully focused on the CSR E at the moment. Most issues were mechanical so this will make progress on the CSW as well.*

How many is a "smaller quantity"? Who knows, but it will surely be very hard to get one, so keep your eyes peeled.

As you may know, CSR Elite wheel is still in beta testing, but should be available before the Clubsport wheel. Fanatec is also sending out more Beta CSR Elite wheels in full retail packaging soon (GTP forums, ISR forums, iRacing forums) and those who get them will be able to describe their experience and write a review at the end, so expect lots of information about it in November. As Thomas said, mechanical fixes that Fanatec*made on CSR Elite translate well to the Clubsport wheel, because those two wheels use almost the same base, so even though they decided to get CSRE on the market first, that does not mean CSW is being put on hold.

Very good to know.

 

[ilonioum]

From fanatecwheel.com:


Small quantity of Clubsport wheels in December?

Submitted by sonac on Sat, 11/05/2011 - 14:40
I get many questions from people, who are waiting for the new Fanatec wheels and today we finally got some fresh information. Thomas from Fanatec shared*the following on iRacing forums in response to a question about Clubsport Wheel release:

Looks like I can keep my promise and we deliver some smaller quantity in december but we still need to take care about a few things and are fully focused on the CSR E at the moment. Most issues were mechanical so this will make progress on the CSW as well.*

How many is a "smaller quantity"? Who knows, but it will surely be very hard to get one, so keep your eyes peeled.

As you may know, CSR Elite wheel is still in beta testing, but should be available before the Clubsport wheel. Fanatec is also sending out more Beta CSR Elite wheels in full retail packaging soon (GTP forums, ISR forums, iRacing forums) and those who get them will be able to describe their experience and write a review at the end, so expect lots of information about it in November. As Thomas said, mechanical fixes that Fanatec*made on CSR Elite translate well to the Clubsport wheel, because those two wheels use almost the same base, so even though they decided to get CSRE on the market first, that does not mean CSW is being put on hold.

brilliant, made me a bit happier, thanks mate.

 

[blacbul67]

Another faulty statement. Don't you think F1 drivers would want to use a rim that wasn't functional and handy to use? T
hey are going fast enough already do they don't want a difficult rim. Lol

I love forums, how quickly misunderstanding occurs. I simply agreed that as long a particular rim offered the requisite functions for the type of racing you wish to partake DRS, etc etc I really don't care if it is replica of a real life F1 manufacturer. I bought my fanatec wheel for its cross platform compatibility, the fact it was Porsche branded was largely irrelevant to me to be honest.