Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Dijital Majik
Exactly scoddee. It doesn't need branding or to copy exactly a specific real-life F1 wheel. All that matters is that it has the look and all the little extra bits not on the formula rim, that you'd expect on an F1 wheel such as a rev meter with gear and delta display, more labeled buttons, more rotories, clutch paddles, carbon fiber look etc. I'm sure Thomas's team could come up with a generic design taking elements from all the F1 wheels currently in use and come up with something that looks like it would fit on a generic F1 car. That is what I meant by 'realistic'.

Licensing is great, but if it hikes up the price too much or limits the features because of cost, then as scoddee says, functionality everytime.
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We are definitely reading from the same page here, couldn't have put it better myself!!
 
A generic F1 rim has also the advantage that there is no risk of it getting outdated, when a manufactorer stops in F1.

The Thrustmaster F1 wheel looks nice, but it's a bit strange using a Ferrari wheel if you always like to drive a Red Bull or Mclaren.
 
I would love a manufacturer f1 rim providing its rbr Mercedes or my favourite mclaren as all if then are unlikely to pull out anytime soon.

A generic f1 rim... Not formula rim would also be welcomed by me.
 
HoiHman
All the Porsche wheels and also the new CSR Wheel simulate the Logitech G25 when in PS3 mode.

How can you tell: Just connect your CSR to your PC and press the back and connect button (as you would for ps3 mode).

Windows will now recognize your CSR as a G25 :)

You can even use the logitech gaming software.

Most likely this will be the case for the CSR Elite and the perhaps even the CSW.
The question than would be: Will the logitech wheels work on the PS4.

I think they will.
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- Do you mean that these wheels use Logitech identity on PS3 but also on PC?

- On PC can you use also Logitech ForceFeedback driver in "Logitech Game Controller" with your wheel?

- Can you also use "Logitech Advanced Gaming Software" with your wheel?


Can you make a video to prove it (for example by launching some force effects on your wheel with "Logitech Game Controller" on the screen)?


If true then it's look like trademark infringement (except if Logitech and Sony approved this :confused: )
 
WildRun
- Do you mean that these wheels use Logitech identity on PS3 but also on PC?

- On PC can you use also Logitech ForceFeedback driver in "Logitech Game Controller" with your wheel?

- Can you also use "Logitech Advanced Gaming Software" with your wheel?


Can you make a video to prove it (for example by launching some force effects on your wheel with "Logitech Game Controller" on the screen)?


If true then it's look like trademark infringement (except if Logitech and Sony approved this :confused: )
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It's been like that for at least 2 years now. Last year i played WRC2010 on G25 mode because the PWTS was not recognized on my PC in the game.

I'm not gonna make a video, because i love fanatec and their wheels, so why should i ?
 
crispychicken49
The Clubsport Handbrake (Photo Above) is rally style, and only Xbox Compatible. It connects to the CSP's.
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I think, you are wrong, because the comparison list from Fanatec says, that the CS handbrake is compatible to the GT3 RS V2 for example too, which we know isn't compatible with the XBox360. The CS handbrake have to be connected to the CS pedals or the CSR Elite pedals!
 
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HoiHman
Microsoft will probably launch a new Xbox next year, will the CRS Elite be 'next' gen compatible?
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Launch next year? No chance.

Nobody's screaming for the next gen consoles yet. Both Sony & MS would like this gen to last a few more years at least.

We might possibly get an early announcement that the next console is moving along in development, but there ain't no way that a next gen console is hitting the shelves in 2012. I wouldn't hold out hope for 2013 either.
 
GT-Roadie
I think, you are wrong, because the comparison list from Fanatec says, that the CS handbrake is compatible to the GT3 RS V2 for example too, which we know isn't compatible with the XBox360. The CS handbrake have to be connected to the CS pedals or the CSR Elite pedals!
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It's strange you say the "Elite Pedals" are compatible which I too would of assumed. I asked "VanWeeD" to post an image of the "Mini PCB" from the Elite pedals (see his unboxing thread) which on the 1st batch seems to NOT have the headers/pins for the handbrake! Im a bit confused why that is.

Ive brought this "Handbrake Connection Issue" up in the past about the 1st batches of CSP also not having these pins. Yet newer editions of the "CSP" pedals do have them.

Nobody seems to take much interest though.

Fanatecs website isnt always clear on some matters (cough, the Pedal Adapter and X360 pedals). The compatibility chart doesnt list X360 pedals as working, nor does the wheel product page only referring to Logitech yet they do work. A few updates to the website need done just.
 
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Nice pic Latte... In the other thread you showed them side by side... The elite looks bigger is that just the picture?? As the specs say they are the same
 
amf7
Nice pic Latte... In the other thread you showed them side by side... The elite looks bigger is that just the picture?? As the specs say they are the same
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Thanks,
We had some issues with the room and reflections, this wasnt done in a studio so conditions were far from ideal for the photos.

The rims, they are the same size as Thomas/ISR has stated.
The Elite can use a mounting bracket as seen on ISR videos, thats what is probably making them appear different is all.

I didnt get to do as much testing comparing the two wheels as Id liked but enough. However I have the PWTS and T500RS to focus on.
 
^ Well thanks, I didnt take it though, my friend did. He is more of a landscape photographer and not so used to products. I only positioned the items however it took several hours to set things up and it will be nice to see come my review if people do enjoy the images.

amf7
Ok cheers.... Is the mounting the same for both wheels??
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You know I cant say, Codemasters let slip the "Elite" during Gamescom has new mounting holes/positions. However wouldnt it be rather foolish of Fanatec to release a new wheel chassis that i'snt compatible with it's Rennsport product lines?

Soon it will all be clear..
Im still looking more questions and Im sure Amar would too. So if you have more questions put them in the thread for that.
 
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WildRun
- Do you mean that these wheels use Logitech identity on PS3 but also on PC?

- On PC can you use also Logitech ForceFeedback driver in "Logitech Game Controller" with your wheel?

- Can you also use "Logitech Advanced Gaming Software" with your wheel?


Can you make a video to prove it (for example by launching some force effects on your wheel with "Logitech Game Controller" on the screen)?


If true then it's look like trademark infringement (except if Logitech and Sony approved this :confused: )
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No, at least not on PS3/PC.
3rd party controllers work like this ever since controllers are invented. For example if you buy a Logitech PS3 controller it uses Sony DUALSHOCK3 interface.
All controllers work like that unless they're officially supported by the software.
If it was 360 then there would be trouble, but on PS3 there isn't any.
 
Forgot about that Latte but thanks for the reply.. I was talking about the release/ attachment when bit drilling it in if that helps.. I assume Its the same
 
Nice find! 👍
No more wheel wobbles and no more noise! :D
I'll expect this point to be in the review also, how you guys experience it.

Looks nice though, Latte. The pic you've got there. I wonder if the rim is all leather with a bit of alcantara or alcantara with high grade anti-slip structured plastic.

Oh yeah, any ETA on the review release date? :P
 
LogiForce
Nice find! 👍
No more wheel wobbles and no more noise! :D
I'll expect this point to be in the review also, how you guys experience it.

Looks nice though, Latte. The pic you've got there. I wonder if the rim is all leather with a bit of alcantara or alcantara with high grade anti-slip structured plastic.

Oh yeah, any ETA on the review release date? :P
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I believe the embargo will be lifted in a week or so.

The CSR Elite as far as I know does not have any parts covered in leather. It is rubber and alcantara (in the beginning it was plastic and alcantara)
 
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ilonioum
I believe the embargo will be lifted in a week or so.

The CSR Elite as far as I know does not have any parts covered in leather. It is rubber and alcantara (in the beginning it was plastic and alcantara)
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Oh yeah... forgot about the rubber :dunce:
Good thing I am single or i'd be in trouble. lmao

It will be fun to read then. First I have to fix my computer tomorrow. The chipset died on me (Was still the P67 (b2 stepping) chipset from intel with the bug for those who know about it).

I am sure curious about how much different the CSW will be from the CSR Elite, since the same base is shared. I believe the CSW will get normal 34 cm wheels, but I don't know about the diameter of the CSR wheel. I think it's smaller (have to look it up).
The electronics must be very different between both wheels though, as the other needs to support far more features.
 
I don´t know if anyone has seen it already, but you can Pre-order the CSR Pedals and you can directly order the inversion kit now.:sly:

Didn't read it on the last page, so I thought nobody has seen it yet.
correct me if I'm wrong:)
 
LogiForce
Oh yeah... forgot about the rubber :dunce:
Good thing I am single or i'd be in trouble. lmao

It will be fun to read then. First I have to fix my computer tomorrow. The chipset died on me (Was still the P67 (b2 stepping) chipset from intel with the bug for those who know about it).

I am sure curious about how much different the CSW will be from the CSR Elite, since the same base is shared. I believe the CSW will get normal 34 cm wheels, but I don't know about the diameter of the CSR wheel. I think it's smaller (have to look it up).
The electronics must be very different between both wheels though, as the other needs to support far more features.
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The wheels on CSW, CSRE and CSR are all 30cm. The GT wheel for CSW might be 34cm. The CSW will have different electronics and different software and it will miss the XID parts. So in one way it gains things but from another perspective it misses the XBOX compatibility.
 
ilonioum
The wheels on CSW, CSRE and CSR are all 30cm. The GT wheel for CSW might be 34cm. The CSW will have different electronics and different software and it will miss the XID parts. So in one way it gains things but from another perspective it misses the XBOX compatibility.
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The GT Rim of the CSW will even measure 35 cm in diameter ;) And maybe we see an even larger Rim, for example Nascar Rim with 38cm or even more....
 
Simracer92
The GT Rim of the CSW will even measure 35 cm in diameter ;) And maybe we see an even larger Rim, for example Nascar Rim with 38cm or even more....
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This is one of those cases when larger does not mean better :) the reason - larger wheels make you slower as they have larger turning circle. This is why Nascar has a large wheel because there is not much turning in it.

For me the GT rim is the best size, 35cm is more than enough, maybe because I never liked Nascar.
 
I want to purchase and download Daytona USA from USA PSN to compare X360 / PS3 versions for part of a T500RS / CSR Elite comparison. It is not available in the UK until late November.

If someone from USA is willing to purchase a PSN code and agree for me to pay them via PayPal, then email me the code I would appreciate it.

Please PM me if you can help.

Other titles being considered to compare T500RS - CSR Elite:
Sega Rally
Dirt 3
F1 2011
GT 5

FM4 Vs GT5 (wheel and game shootout perspective)

Anything else you can recommend?
 
Test drive maybe...

I don't think games like f1 dirt are good for comparing as ffb is pretty darn shiz as well as on tdu2 so results will be mixed.. games like GT5 and forza (I know t500 isn't compatible) and some pc games as it gives a more.consistent represention and if course the ffb is better on the game :)
 
I read Test Drive was pretty bad.
Shift 2 isnt supported via T500RS which rules that out.

Their is actually quite a limited choice for console players to find games that detailed comparisons for T500RS can be done on.

Dirt 3 has some excellent FFB, and is a great game to test a wheel on, err what you on about? I havnt played F1 2011 yet to know, but was going to buy/rent it for the test.
 

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