Fanatec CSR Elite rim poll

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I like leather more because you can feel FFB slightly better. (sounds silly but harder grip on rim makes a difference according to people played with GT2 and turbo S wheels)

Yeah, I'm cool with that. I was just explaining how you could make alcantara bearable to the guy who hates it.
 
The reason alcantara is used in racecars is because of its flame resistant properties. High end cars then followed suit, because it was in racecars not because its some luxury material.
 
The reason alcantara is used in racecars is because of its flame resistant properties. High end cars then followed suit, because it was in racecars not because its some luxury material.

While this may be true, my cars steering wheel is half Alcantara and half leather. Maybe that is the best option. It has Alcantara at 3 and 9 o'clock and leather every where else.
 
I dont get all the fuss about alcantara either. In you like it thats fine, but some act like its something special. Its is only a man made material. Can buy it anywhere and its not that expensive. Holds moisture, wears out fast (maybe wearing gloves helps) and it starts to smell after a while. If you like it fine, but dont make it out to be some rare hard to get material, because it isnt.

There is evidence to show otherwise, alcantara isn't cheap it is used in high end areas due to the properties it holds. How else do DTM, GTE, GT1, GT3, V8 Supercars, Super GT500 - GT300, LMP1 and LMP2, Rally as well as F1 seats last through an entire season? Through long stints, driver changes, fluids and weather? Gee I guess they use it because it's so cheap and counter-productive to longevity that the sports looks for.

If you don't know if gloves will wear it out maybe you should wear them when you use it. Then you wont have to say maybe it will help, seeing as it is relevant to the conversation, yet you have no insight on it.
 
There is evidence to show otherwise, alcantara isn't cheap it is used in high end areas due to the properties it holds. How else do DTM, GTE, GT1, GT3, V8 Supercars, Super GT500 - GT300, LMP1 and LMP2, Rally as well as F1 seats last through an entire season? Through long stints, driver changes, fluids and weather? Gee I guess they use it because it's so cheap and counter-productive to longevity that the sports looks for.

If you don't know if gloves will wear it out maybe you should wear them when you use it. Then you wont have to say maybe it will help, seeing as it is relevant to the conversation, yet you have no insight on it.

The seat doesnt go through that much wear. Hell my personel cars seats get alot more abuse everyday than any racing seat thats used 10 or so hours a week. It is used because it doesnt like to burn or melt like other material does. If I forget to pay my heating bill Ill wear gloves in my house, other than that Ill stick with bare hands.
 
I dont care for the feeling of alcontera, but if that is what a real race car uses, i want it. realism is the most important feature of any wheel in the history of the universe
 
I dont care for the feeling of alcontera, but if that is what a real race car uses, i want it. realism is the most important feature of any wheel in the history of the universe

Not entirely true... It's more a matter of personal taste than actual performance. Some people like materials like alcantera and suede others prefer leather. Yes the alcantera or suede will absorb the moisture, but you are already wearing gloves on any race enviroment. So at the end of the day it all comes down to what you like best.
 
A Rally style rim will definitely not happen so perhaps it would make sense to delete that choice in order to get more realistic results.
 
Fanatec you should still put the rev limiter electronics in the Formula rim so us PC users can use an iRacing plugin. 💡

Couldn't vote for GT & Formula rim. I suspect I'd be happy with either. A GT rim might work much better due to lack of rev limiter on the gt rim.
 
A Rally style rim will definitely not happen so perhaps it would make sense to delete that choice in order to get more realistic results.

Why?

And what is the difference between GT and rally style rims in the poll? Are both round etc?
 
a rally style rim has a single paddle shifter that does not move with the wheel and you have to push it in to downshift and out to upshift, while a GT style rim works like, well, a GT car.
 
Alcantara is for grip. When you wear proper racing gloves the Alcantara grips like leather never can.

Agree to that. Even only with the 3 and 9 alcantara on the CSR-E the grip is great wearing gloves. Leather just feels strange then.
 
The seat doesnt go through that much wear. Hell my personel cars seats get alot more abuse everyday than any racing seat thats used 10 or so hours a week. It is used because it doesnt like to burn or melt like other material does. If I forget to pay my heating bill Ill wear gloves in my house, other than that Ill stick with bare hands.

Well I'm glad you'll do that, but it's a moot effort to complain about a material if you're not going to approach from a realistic stand point.
 
I remember Thomas mentioning that they will only make 2 additional rims for CSR Elite. F1 wheel for sure and a GT rim if the demand is high.

It seems that the demand for a GT rim is higher than for the F1 rim and this leaves us just to chose the wrapping material for F1 and GT wheel rims.
 
I remember Thomas mentioning that they will only make 2 additional rims for CSR Elite. F1 wheel for sure and a GT rim if the demand is high.

It seems that the demand for a GT rim is higher than for the F1 rim and this leaves us just to chose the wrapping material for F1 and GT wheel rims.

Couldn't they provide a selection, like say when I go buy a car and I have options for the interior finish.
 
Couldn't they provide a selection, like say when I go buy a car and I have options for the interior finish.

I guess they could have but I doubt they will. I believe that they will chose the optimal option and stick with it as it will keep the costs down and therefore the price of the wheel lower.
 
The flame retardant properties is something more believable.
The "grip" reasoning... this just makes me laugh. Let me guess, I bet people still think bowling shoes are for better grip? lol

Maybe you guys are from the north, but where I am, summer is a scorcher. Add in strong FFB, and that combination gives your hands a good sweat. If you're going to wear gloves, what difference is it to you whether it's plastic, metal or wood. I reckon anyone who wears them, deserves only half a vote.
 
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and preference.
For me, every session longer then 30 minutes i prefer gloves, specially for the sweat palms.
In a race car you might wear them for additional reasons, but on the simulator grip, feel and a dry steering are reasons enough.

Back on topic
Doesn't change the fact, that also without gloves the feel of alcantara is just great ;)
 
The flame retardant properties is something more believable.
The "grip" reasoning... this just makes me laugh. Let me guess, I bet people still think bowling shoes are for better grip? lol

Maybe you guys are from the north, but where I am, summer is a scorcher. Add in strong FFB, and that combination gives your hands a good sweat. If you're going to wear gloves, what difference is it to you whether it's plastic, metal or wood. I reckon anyone who wears them, deserves only half a vote.

From the north :lol:, I guess you don't read under the Avatars much. Well you are new so that explains a good deal, but I too live in a very hot place. However, unlike you I don't have that issue so much. If you haven't tried the glove/alcantara combonation then why comment on it? It's the equivalent of you trying to talk about a car accident that unfolded yet you came an hour after the fact. In other words you really don't know.
 
From the north :lol:, I guess you don't read under the Avatars much. Well you are new so that explains a good deal, but I too live in a very hot place. However, unlike you I don't have that issue so much. If you haven't tried the glove/alcantara combonation then why comment on it? It's the equivalent of you trying to talk about a car accident that unfolded yet you came an hour after the fact. In other words you really don't know.

Why on earth would you assume I haven't tried gloves/alcantara combo?
Are you also going to assume I only have 1 pair of gloves? I'm sure you've already made up your mind about my level of intelligence too I bet.
 
Why on earth would you assume I haven't tried gloves/alcantara combo?
Are you also going to assume I only have 1 pair of gloves? I'm sure you've already made up your mind about my level of intelligence too I bet.

Sure I have your intelligence is there some where! :sly:. Yes you probably have 1 glove not 1 pair. In other words why must you feel the need to take me so serious? Are you a full fledge net warrior, who is on the hunt for a good internetz battle?

Seriously though if you were offended (seems to me by your response) you shouldn't have been.

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net warrior? *cough*hippocrite.

If you haven't realized it yet. This is quite serious. As it influences Thomas' decision to make my $900 wheel better (I'm in Australia). Of course I'm going to argue my case. What did you expect?
 
The flame retardant properties is something more believable.
The "grip" reasoning... this just makes me laugh. Let me guess, I bet people still think bowling shoes are for better grip? lol

Maybe you guys are from the north, but where I am, summer is a scorcher. Add in strong FFB, and that combination gives your hands a good sweat. If you're going to wear gloves, what difference is it to you whether it's plastic, metal or wood. I reckon anyone who wears them, deserves only half a vote.

Wow, ok, well I may only deserve "half a vote" in your opinion, but guess what, most people disagree with you. Most of the upcoming wheels are indeed Alcantara and no matter how much you whine about it and gloves, it's not going to change anything.

So apparently my "half a vote" is much more significant than yours. Alcantara is directly associated with race cars and supercars and it is what we will see on these wheel rims.

You combine proper gloves with an Alcantara wheel and the grip is like velcro, it's ridiculous. Oh, and I live in Okinawa Japan, it's hot here, and humid, and I never have a problem with sweat. It sucks that you can't understand that, but I'm guessing it's because you have no real experience.

I've been using Alcantara wheels in my race cars since the 80's, it's the best possible thing you can have for racing, real or simulated.


Good enough for real Formula racing, good enough for me:

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