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Fanatec CSW/CSR Elite Modders Thread *UPDATE February 2014*
- Thread starter eKretz
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Hello Guys, just stubled up this thread and registered to gtplanet.
I am very much interested in this motors order but I just managed to read a couple of page back and would like to read the whole story before committing to anything.
Do I still have a day or two? looking at the first page I understand motors are only a part of this mod...
Thanks!
I am very much interested in this motors order but I just managed to read a couple of page back and would like to read the whole story before committing to anything.
Do I still have a day or two? looking at the first page I understand motors are only a part of this mod...
Thanks!
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- United States
- nubrocket
You have time! Make sure you're sure before signing up for anything.
As an update to the list and the poll...
We've had some folks bow out, which is fine. I appreciate you making that decision now rather than when the order is about to get placed.
That said, we've also had a couple new names show up! Imagine that.
The list currently looks like this:
- 14 people signed up for the $85 per motor price
- 1 person signed up for the $70 per motor price.
The 1 person signed up for $70 per motor is sticking to their guns, which is also fine! Given the weight of the response, however, it seems very likely they'll miss the boat (unless of course we have an explosion of new interest in the coming week(s)).
I propose that we set a deadline, maybe? Perhaps May 23rd (or even the end of the month? sooner?) to give the signups more time. In the meantime we could start finalizing pricing and maybe even collecting money for the order. Those details I leave to eKretz, though. I'm just a data guy.
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- Canada
Anybody seen the new wheel released by Fanatec? I think they're really starting to lose it over there. I hope this is a joke.
It's been almost 2 years since the release of the CSW, no rims to speak of during that time and this is what they come up with?
More and more I see the accuforce wheel in my future. Damn it.
It's been almost 2 years since the release of the CSW, no rims to speak of during that time and this is what they come up with?
More and more I see the accuforce wheel in my future. Damn it.
Well I don't think there's anyone who denies that those servo wheels are better,, but it is the money that makes a diffrence. I would buy one in a heartbeat, but I don't seem to have a luck in lottery.
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- Canada
- 30
- Canada
You have time! Make sure you're sure before signing up for anything.
As an update to the list and the poll...
We've had some folks bow out, which is fine. I appreciate you making that decision now rather than when the order is about to get placed.
That said, we've also had a couple new names show up! Imagine that.
The list currently looks like this:
Of the 14 that have completed the poll, we're literally at a 6 to 6 tie between pulling the trigger immediately and giving it some more time to allow more folks to join up. Only 2 of the 14 respondents have opted for holding out for 30, though.
- 14 people signed up for the $85 per motor price
- 1 person signed up for the $70 per motor price.
The 1 person signed up for $70 per motor is sticking to their guns, which is also fine! Given the weight of the response, however, it seems very likely they'll miss the boat (unless of course we have an explosion of new interest in the coming week(s)).
I propose that we set a deadline, maybe? Perhaps May 23rd (or even the end of the month? sooner?) to give the signups more time. In the meantime we could start finalizing pricing and maybe even collecting money for the order. Those details I leave to eKretz, though. I'm just a data guy.
Agree with the deadline. We need to put some time constraints to this. May 23rd sounds good, as that gives us 3 weeks.
- 2,863
- Australia
US/Euro$350 for a rim. Seems like they're coming up with ways to justify the cost of the motor mod from eKretz.
Sub-US$2000. I think that some people aren't all that far off that region with getting their Clubsport wheels to work as they should. It's also about where the money goes....
In case people missed it on another thread:
I think that the Accuforce will do just fine in the percentage game. And even go quite well in the retail price game.
I know you or someone answered somewhere else in this thread, does your new motor improve reliability?
How tough it is to add motor within base?
Does you accept to ship these motors at international?
If yes and if it it relatively simple to mount motors, i can promote on another racing forum which many csw owners barely know about the weakness of base
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- West Sussex
Hi Guys, Been an avid but silent follower of this thread. Awesome stuff eKretz, appreciate your effort man. And everybody who has contributed along the way. Great stuff.
Just wondering if anyone else involved in the group motor purchase is in Europe or all accross the pond?
Just wondering if anyone else involved in the group motor purchase is in Europe or all accross the pond?
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- Sweden
No my friend I´m in EU as well, just a bit to the east of you I suppose hehe..
I´m very interested to know how much shipping would be for a complete package from eKretz ready to bolt in and hook up to air cooling?
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- West Sussex
I,m thinking of shipping costs. From Germany to US and then back to UK. I,m thinking of motor weight travelling back and forth across The Atlantic.
Would it be possible for motors to travel direct to me and I carry out the required mods?
Would it be possible for motors to travel direct to me and I carry out the required mods?
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- IN
- Eric_J2358
The motors won't come from Germany, they'll come from the U.S. distributor to me for modding, then to customers.
If you have machining capability you can do the machining yourself on the motor mount and the pulleys. I would recommend you just buy the parts kit in that case but if you want to try sourcing all the bolts and fittings and machining everything you are more than welcome to.
Shipping for just a motor block and pair of motors will probably run something along the lines of $40-$50 USD to UK/EU. A lot of my customers have been from outside the U.S. actually.
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- West Sussex
Ah ok. Thats sweet. I had a horrible feeling that shipping costs would be kings ransom. At that kind of cost I have no issues whatsoever. I no longer have machining capability so would have used a local engineering shop but as you get the motors from a US supplier there would be no real benefit.
Thanks for putting my mind at rest.
Thanks for putting my mind at rest.
- 1,603
- IN
- Eric_J2358
Yes it does improve reliability. I had been using a set of the Bühler motors for about a year with no issues until I dissected then to check for wear/damage along with a stock motor. Those photos are posted in this thread - the Bühler armature and commutator had normal wear from use and slight discoloration from age and heat. The stock motor has turned color from copper wire to blue/black/purple.
- 1,603
- IN
- Eric_J2358
I guess we shall see if that holds true. I still think it's back pedaling though. They sent me a pair of motors and specifically said they were from the "new batch" and they failed on me just like the other two pairs. None of that changes the fact that they use cheap ***** motors vs. what the T500 uses for instance, as noted above in LeMansAid's post.
- 9,721
- Portland, OR
- Jump_Ace
- JUMPxACE
We'd often tell customers the same thing when we had a known issue at LaCie. "Unfortunately, you got one of the few with this issue"...blah blah. Imagine their response when it happened again?! Actually, us Fanatec owners can imagine : /
Jerome
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- Austria
With all this motor problems and failures, I'm really looking forward to the Accuforce Wheel.
Yea I know it will cost about 2000, but this thing is probably a purchase for a lifetime...I mean, you can't kill an industrial servo motor with your bare hands...that is just impossible. From this perspective, pricing is extremely relativ.
EDIT: sorry, I know it's somehow offtopic
Yea I know it will cost about 2000, but this thing is probably a purchase for a lifetime...I mean, you can't kill an industrial servo motor with your bare hands...that is just impossible. From this perspective, pricing is extremely relativ.
EDIT: sorry, I know it's somehow offtopic
- 9,721
- Portland, OR
- Jump_Ace
- JUMPxACE
Congrats buddy I didn't know about the 2nd 
I did the mod knowing full well that my wheel may not be compatible with the PS4, if that's the case, then I'll probably sell it and sell my arcade cabinet to buy a SimX...if that is PS4 compatible...or some compatible wheel. I'm hoping that doesn't happen cause this wheel is really great (now).
Jerome
I did the mod knowing full well that my wheel may not be compatible with the PS4, if that's the case, then I'll probably sell it and sell my arcade cabinet to buy a SimX...if that is PS4 compatible...or some compatible wheel. I'm hoping that doesn't happen cause this wheel is really great (now).
Jerome
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- Perth
i have a theory on the motors, it may be that there was the problem with the bad batch an thats now resolved but i still wouldnt put too much faith in the V2 motors though. and perhaps firmware is playing a big part in this aswell, part of the reason why i think that they are reluctant to send out motor blocks now because they are altering/updating the FW or something to try reduce some strain on the motors.
just my theory on it.
just my theory on it.
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- Sweden
This is only imho but I really do think Tomas & co have been bitten by the greed-bug over there at Fanatec, or at least trying to max profits to such a degree it´s ridiculous and the love for gaming hardware seams a bit lost.
He do claim he did it not just for business but also for the love of gaming hardware etc or that´s what I´v been told anyway, the new steering wheel is just a bit crazy, 350?
Although if the eKretz upgrade makes the wheel a bit better and drastically reduce heat fading that will make me a happy man, can always dream about Accuforce and such toys though.
He do claim he did it not just for business but also for the love of gaming hardware etc or that´s what I´v been told anyway, the new steering wheel is just a bit crazy, 350?
Although if the eKretz upgrade makes the wheel a bit better and drastically reduce heat fading that will make me a happy man, can always dream about Accuforce and such toys though.
You don't seem to understand. They make it so that you can turn them up over 100%, because some games may have weaker FFB. If they lock them to 100 like it used to be, then you'll just have to play with very weak FFB in some games, but you certainly wouldn't want to do that and definitely would come to complain about weak FFB.
I don't know about other games, but in Assetto Corsa, there is noticeable difference. I'm not saying that I need to dial those settings over 100, but comparing road cars to cars like z4 GT3, there is a massive FFB strength difference which makes me change settings every time.
There is no need to blame for being greed or something, because we don't know everything about this wheel. Like LogiForce mentioned somewhere, that if it is some Sparco's partial rip-off/licenced/whatever, it could cost that much because barebone Sparco costs over 200 without CNC machined aluminum centre cap, quick release, some electronics. To me, it doesn't come even close to being even half as greed as Apple or Samsung mobile division.
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- nubrocket
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- FatnSlo
- FatnSlo
Ok thanks. I was thinking it was somewhere in this forum.
I wanted to know as I was looking to comment about them not selling replacement motors to customers who's warranties have expired even though they claim they do sell them(I have emails to prove they don't), but I will let it go. Them not selling replacement motors led me to pursue eKretz to do the machining to make the Buhlers work which has since exploded in to a real solution for many CSW/CSRE users.
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- Dartford, Kent, UK
- boonerthegooner
- boothegoo
The "bad batch" bs is just that. Every batch has been bad.
