Fanatec Podium Direct Drive Wheel Bases Thread

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Thomas Jackermeier

"Development still goes smoothly for the Podium DD. All remaining minor issues can be fixed by firmware so that we can ship in April as planned. Please put in your order in time so you can make sure your unit will ship in the first batch."

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Good news. My Clubsport shifter arrived today, it's what I got with my voucher as I already had the LE F1 rim.
 
My Clubsport V2 F1 wheel came today but don’t have anything to use it on. Sure looking forward to getting my PS4 Podium DD base to try it out on. I have the Limited Edition F1 wheel also sitting and waiting.

Good news to hear things are progressing nicely. Be even better to hear they are shipping early.
 
My Clubsport V2 F1 wheel came today but don’t have anything to use it on. Sure looking forward to getting my PS4 Podium DD base to try it out on. I have the Limited Edition F1 wheel also sitting and waiting.

Won't that mean that you'll have 3 wheels that are essentially the same?

Edit: Except for Xbox compatibility perhaps...
 
Won't that mean that you'll have 3 wheels that are essentially the same?

Edit: Except for Xbox compatibility perhaps...

I bought the limited edition to convert for my AccuForce on my PC setup. Looks like those cannot be converted now so I will probably sell it eventually. I’ll wait for a while to see how things play out once the Fanatec DD wheels are released.

I bought the V2 edition so I would have the XBox compatibility.
 
My dilema now is.. to wait for reviews or preorder to get the first batch.

Want to get Rseat S1 but they are sold out
 
My dilema now is.. to wait for reviews or preorder to get the first batch.

Want to get Rseat S1 but they are sold out
Simple, wait for reviews and then decide. That is what I'm doing.
 
My dilema now is.. to wait for reviews or preorder to get the first batch.

Want to get Rseat S1 but they are sold out
It's nonsense to buy the first revision of a new hardware because there is a big chance that there will be things that will need fixing (in worst case even recalls). If you are not the type that needs to be the first to get the latest toys, it's smart decision to wait and first see how everything works out.
 
It's nonsense to buy the first revision of a new hardware.
If that was the case nothing would ever get made. What business in their right mind would go through , design, development, manufacturer, QA, marketing, etc if they knew no one would buy the first revision? People, including you, buy first revisions of products week in week out without issue and to suggest it's nonsense to do so truly is nonsense.
 
Ehh I've bought a significant amount of first gen products that I've enjoyed immensely and would much rather use a DD wheel for a year or two instead of waiting for a potential revision to potential problems. Also seeing as DD wheels are basically just a large motor, I think it should be pretty reliable. Failure rates get blown way out of proportion most of the time.
 
The question is how fast can they produce new batches .

My CSW v2 was out for some time and I still had problems (warranty fixed them) at first.

There is also a thing about the better motor.

I don't know if I need a DD wheel more then I'm worried about recalls and stuff.
 
I have pre ordered and am happy with my decision, these have been in development for at least 18 months and fanatec delayed release because of a minor problem that they wanted to iron out, Thomas said they would only release when they were perfect being that they are the headline act for fanatec and their leading product.
 
The question is how fast can they produce new batches .

My CSW v2 was out for some time and I still had problems (warranty fixed them) at first.

There is also a thing about the better motor.

I don't know if I need a DD wheel more then I'm worried about recalls and stuff.

Yeah that's obviously a personal call. From what I've heard about DD wheels the DD1 will be a pretty large step above the CSL that I'm using now (which I'm already hitting the limit with in regards to clipping), so I'm super excited to get into direct drive territory. However if you are happy with your setup and would be more comfortable waiting it out and seeing that's fair.

Using my current setup with my Pimax 5K+ is just too much fun to not get the DD1 at release. Fully addicted to this hobby currently, and I only see it getting worse once the DD1 gets here. I've been looking for a DD setup that has the kind of ecosystem that Fanatec does, especially in regards to the plug and play nature of the software and FFB tuning. I deal with enough of the computer/setup side of things with my current Fanatec gear and wouldn't want to deal with the additional layers of potential issues/troubleshooting that other DD systems have, even if they are (potentially) slightly more reliable than Fanatec offerings (which once again I don't really believe). Being able to just hop on and enjoy racing is what I'm after, and at the end of the day you can't really beat the ecosystem that they have put together with high quality accessories and software compatibility. I also feel like Fanatec gets a bit of a bad rep for customer service. Though they might not be the benchmark, I think most issues get handled pretty well and that most of the horror stories were from years back. Also feel thats kind of the same regarding reliability as well (other than the McLaren GT3 wheel apparently, but pretty sure that was just a bad batch that was fixed?).
 
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I was happy with my every wheel until I tried a better one - then I could not go back.

I remember the time when G25 was most high end wheel in my eyes.

Also there is the thing that I can't really try anything before buying and reviews are just a personal opinion of the reviewer.

I now have a high end laptop and could go back to pc racing (connected to the tv)
 
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Reliability is probably a kind of intrinsic feature of DD wheels though, since they got fewer moving parts. It's just a wheel connected straight to a motor and the motors are bigger as well so they should be able to take more punishment. So reliability shouldn't be an issue unless you go cheap with the electronics and manage to mess up in that area.

At least that's my hope, having preordered :)
 
If that was the case nothing would ever get made. What business in their right mind would go through , design, development, manufacturer, QA, marketing, etc if they knew no one would buy the first revision? People, including you, buy first revisions of products week in week out without issue and to suggest it's nonsense to do so truly is nonsense.
I completely agree with you; luckily there are always people that will go for first shot. I was answering to the question from single person perspective, not general mass. For the business it's of course better that more people buy it as soon as possible, but for you as individual buying as soon as possible is not beneficial. Subjective element is left out on purpose.

The question is how fast can they produce new batches .

My CSW v2 was out for some time and I still had problems (warranty fixed them) at first.

There is also a thing about the better motor.

I don't know if I need a DD wheel more then I'm worried about recalls and stuff.
At least you knew what to expect and could decide to buy another product instead. You probably also got it for less than if you bought it the first day. You made informed decision to still go with it, while all these people pre-oirdering do not.
 
Reliability is probably a kind of intrinsic feature of DD wheels though, since they got fewer moving parts. It's just a wheel connected straight to a motor and the motors are bigger as well so they should be able to take more punishment. So reliability shouldn't be an issue unless you go cheap with the electronics and manage to mess up in that area.

At least that's my hope, having preordered :)
Do not forget that the electric motor and the electronics are enclosed in a single box unlike the other DD wheels which can lead to overheating.
 
I more than highly doubt that would be an issue, as that would be one of the first and easiest issues to find during testing.
 
Do not forget that the electric motor and the electronics are enclosed in a single box unlike the other DD wheels which can lead to overheating.
Maybe not if designed and tested and refined, which is what I think they have been doing these last few months.
 
Isn't that kind of due to the fact that Fanatec is a big company that can afford to custom design components and make everything compact? I feel like these other DD setups would do the same if they had the resources to get it done, and that it's more of a sign of that than the fact that its a bad idea to put the electronics in the wheel. I'm sure Fanatec is a much bigger operation than accuforce or the OSW guys and that they can afford to design many more custom components which lets them package things the way that they do. Doubt they choose such large packaging as a benefit to cooling, I'd assume it's more of a cost issue, but hey maybe I'm wrong and every DD1/DD2 will be a massive overheating mess haha, all I know is that I'd put my money on them being just fine.
 
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Isn't that kind of due to the fact that Fanatec is a big company that can afford to custom design components and make everything compact? I feel like these other DD setups would do the same if they had the resources to get it done, and that it's more of a sign of that than the fact that its a bad idea to put the electronics in the wheel. I'm sure Fanatec is a much bigger operation than accuforce or the OSW guys and that they can afford to design many more custom components which lets them package things the way that they do. Doubt they choose such large packaging as a benefit to cooling, I'd assume it's more of a cost issue, but hey maybe I'm wrong and every DD1/DD2 will be a massive overheating mess haha, all I know is that I'd put my money on them being just fine.
EMI, ESD, and thermal management are challenges more easily solved when the electronics are placed well away from the motor in a separate control box... but we didn't want to do that. Packing the electronics into the wheel base seemed like a logical step for us in terms of DD evolution. We approached the challenge very early on and we have a system that works. This is verified through thousands of hours of testing, in extreme use cases (full torque stalls), and in extreme testing environments (ambient temps over 50 degrees C).
 
It seems that Fanatec is doing everything to ensure that the DD wheels are free of problems and bugs.
 
Don't think a stress test video has ever hyped me up about a product before haha. You guys should do one with some weights hanging off and really show off the power in a visual manner. Would be funny to see a commercial belt wheel vs the DD2 with a 10 pound weight hanging off the axis. But thanks for the information, it's great to see how seriously Fanatec is taking this product and clearly shows that the podium lineup is a clear step above the ClubSport in more ways than just raw performance.
 
I don't worry about overheating a DD1 if I should have one. I'm not keen on using high FFB so ......

Before someone asks, why should I get a DD wheel if I don't like strong FFB? Well, a DD wheel is much more than FFB alone. It has so many advantages over my G27.
 
Before someone asks, why should I get a DD wheel if I don't like strong FFB? Well, a DD wheel is much more than FFB alone. It has so many advantages over my G27.
To be fair, any wheel on the market from Fanatec or Thrusmaster will have many advantages over a G27 :)
 
"This stress test proves the system's durability"
Hmmm, well yes the stress test probably does, but the video only proves that slapping on overly dramatic music can make anything look cool. :D
 
To be fair, any wheel on the market from Fanatec or Thrusmaster will have many advantages over a G27 :)
Indeed! I agree 100%. But I'm not interested in other wheels from Fanatec and Thrustmaster.
I'm only interested in replacing my G27 with a DD wheel.
BTW, I had a T300RS and turned it in after having it for three months. The T300RS started to act up only after one month.
 
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