FIA GT 2010 Championship

I had no idea either! I look forward to being there on Saturday and Sunday and cheering you on (and Jordan of course) like I did last year. Best of luck :cheers:
 
I'll look out for you, Lucas - I'm there all 3 days. I hope you've packed a raincoat!
 
Qualifying 1
Pos Car Class Drivers Car Time Laps Gap Avgspeed
1 7 GT4 Meijer Aston Martin GT4 2:14.948 4 0 0
2 32 GT4 Mallock Aston Martin GT4 2:16.256 4 1.308 0
3 12 GT4 van Splunteren/Harkema Porsche GT3 2:17.163 3 2.215 0
4 2 GT4 Ordonnez Nissan 350Z 2:17.288 5 2.34 0

12 1 GT4 Tresson/Buncombe Nissan 370Z 2:20.199 5 5.251 0

Qualifying 2
Pos Car Class Drivers Car Time Laps Gap Avg
speed
1 7 GT4 Meijer Aston Martin GT4 2:14.708 4 0 0
2 32 GT4 Mallock Aston Martin GT4 2:15.025 5 0.317 0
3 2 GT4 Ordonnez Nissan 350Z 2:16.436 5 1.728 0

5 1 GT4 Tresson/Buncombe Nissan 370Z 2:16.845 5 2.137 0
Session Notes
Weather cloudy
Track conditions dry
 
You can watch the GT1 qualifying races here.

http://gt1world.com/gt1tv

love the scuba diver style air tanks on the backs of the air gun pit crew, no air lines to trip over 👍


Congratulations Lucas for two fantastic quailifying races, good luck tomorrow.
 
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It's just like i said, the astons and the GTR's did good, i had hoped they would, and figured they would because of the track layout. Good for them. Now for the main race later on tonight!
 
I don't know if this is usefull. However if you want to watch it on tv and don't have espn then you can watch it on bloomberg tv on freesat.
 
I wish I was at Silverstone now :(
 
Some good racing in the GT1 qualifying race, nice to see the DBR9's back on form;), it's just a shame that the #7 Young Driver AMR team's race was ruined by the pit entrance infringements.

I really love this new arena layout.👍

Watching the Championship race now, then ive got all the GT3 and 4 action to catch up on, thank god for Sky+ and the internet!.:D
 
That Phoenix Carsport C6.R is a sorry site. Still hoping Turner and Mucke can challenge for the win.
 
I knew they'd do it!.:D Great work by Darren Turner and Tomas Enge.👍
Pity the no.9 Hexis DBR9 was penalised towards the end, im sure there would have been an epic battle in the closing laps between the two. However still brilliant racing throughout the field and a great weekend for Aston Martin Racing.👍 Kudos to Jamie Campbell-Walter and Warren Hughes in their Sumo Power GT-R too.👍

Now ive got to catch up with GT3&4 :P.


Duffers917K
That Phoenix Carsport C6.R is a sorry site.
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I found that painful to watch:(, did they say what caused the fire?.

EDIT: Both the 1st & 2nd place Astons have been penalised, therefore the winner is now the #22 Sumo Power GT-R of Jamie Campbell-Walter and Warren Hughes. Link

A British Team so im still quite happy.👍
 
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Reminds me a bit of the 1966 Monte Carlo Rally, when everyone ahead of the first driver and team from France were disqualified. I knew the No.9 Hexis Aston had a 15 second penalty (because it was on the notice board on the side of race control :D) but the Turner/Enge exclusion was news to me.
 
I'm annoyed as I've supported Darren Turner for a fair few years, and I'm a an Aston fan. But if anybody else deserved a win it was the Hughes/Cambell-Walter car, their drive in the championship race was top notch.
 
Ardius
Not been a good day for penalties, first Chilton, then this. 👎
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What are they supposed to do? They can't not issue penalties. What kind of message would that send? That it's okay to flaunt the rules if it means the race result would normally be affected by it?
 
They can issue penalties....but meddling with results should be avoided in all circumstances bar extreme cheating.
Why are sporting authorities so afraid of using next-race penalties?

I just think its farcical to watch a race or any sporting event for that matter and then have the winner decided afterwards. Whats the point in the race then?
In both cases it was some issue with ride height, something that doesn't provide a massive advantage and also in both cases they did not have a significant (or indeed any) apparent advantage over their compatriots in the same cars! Chilton wasn't that much quicker than Onslow-Cole and Turner/Enge weren't that much quicker than any of the other Astons.
Neither required such a severe penalty, a fine or a grid place drop for the next race or equivelant penalty would have been more logical.
 
Ardius
Why are sporting authorities so afraid of using next-race penalties?
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Because in this case, the penalised car won. Issuing a next-race penalty creates a scenario where teams may be willing to risk getting caught flaunting the rules if it means they can win the race. A next-race penalty would be a slap on the wrist considering that they still win the original race. What happens if we get a scenario where the entire championship is on the line two races from the end of the season and someone exploits the rulebook, knowing that they can be given a next-race penalty at worst, which will essentially come into effect after they have won the championship?
 
So the GTR ended up winning anyway. I figured that would happen. Watching the race you could tell they at least should have had 2nd. The Aston took too long to serve their drive through penalty. You can't just put it off till you feel like it. 3 laps is the limit and they exceeded it. The other Aston was kind of a shame because of the regularities of the car. But it seems he was running too low, or something to wear off too much of the skid plank. So I guess the GTR deserved the win. Of course the AMR teams can appeal the decision so it might not yet be over.
 
GT4 for the Academy winners:

Race 1:
Lucas Ordoñez would disappear out of the race with a gearbox problem.
Meanwhile Ordoñez’s teammates Alex Buncombe and Jordan Tresson were forced to retire when the left rear wheel of their Nissan 370Z came off.

Race 2:
Pos Car Class Drivers Car Time Laps Gap Avgspeed
1 7 GT4 Meijer Aston Martin GT4 40:19.330 17 0 0
2 32 GT4 Mallock Aston Martin GT4 40:27.007 17 7.677 0
3 18 GT4 Dick Ginetta G50 40:38.709 17 19.379 0

7 2 GT4 Ordonnez Nissan 350Z 41:05.898 17 46.568 0
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14 1 GT4 Tresson/Buncombe Nissan 370Z 5:04.511 2 35:14.819 15
 
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Because in this case, the penalised car won. Issuing a next-race penalty creates a scenario where teams may be willing to risk getting caught flaunting the rules if it means they can win the race. A next-race penalty would be a slap on the wrist considering that they still win the original race. What happens if we get a scenario where the entire championship is on the line two races from the end of the season and someone exploits the rulebook, knowing that they can be given a next-race penalty at worst, which will essentially come into effect after they have won the championship?
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Then fine them....something other than meddling with results. Like I said, this wasn't excessive cheating, this was a minor infringement of the technical regulations. It doesn't deserve such penalties and it certainly doesn't warrant the confusion it causes to the public.
They did win the race fair and square looking at the comparison to the other Aston Martins, so I don't see why a "slap on the wrist" is not good enough just becuase they won. Its not like they started from the back, lapped the whole field and had a massive advantage over their teammates. If they had run with a proper ride height, they would have still won.
 
Ardius
Then fine them....something other than meddling with results. Like I said, this wasn't excessive cheating, this was a minor infringement of the technical regulations. It doesn't deserve such penalties and it certainly doesn't warrant the confusion it causes to the public.
They did win the race fair and square looking at the comparison to the other Aston Martins, so I don't see why a "slap on the wrist" is not good enough just becuase they won. Its not like they started from the back, lapped the whole field and had a massive advantage over their teammates. If they had run with a proper ride height, they would have still won.
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Lowering the ride height increases downforce which makes the car go faster. What's minor about that? Rules are rules. It was correct to punish the winner. It doesn't look good granted, but that isn't the governing body's fault, it's the team that doesn't set up the car properly that is at fault.
 
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Lowering the ride height increases downforce which makes the car go faster. What's minor about that? Rules are rules. It was correct to punish the winner. It doesn't look good granted, but that isn't the governing body's fault, it's the team that doesn't set up the car properly that is at fault.
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Sigh, yes I agreed it deserves a penalty but I disagree that the advantage gained was so great that the results should be altered.
It deserves a penalty...but not this penalty, its far too drastic.

Can it be proved the Aston won because of this? Or the Ford in BTCC?
 
Watched the GT1's for the first time this weekend and OMG the sounds them cars make is amazing from the high pitched Maseratis to the deep sounds the Corvettes and the Fords make. Also even when lifting off the Lamborghini sounded nice.
 
Ardius
Sigh, yes I agreed it deserves a penalty but I disagree that the advantage gained was so great that the results should be altered.
It deserves a penalty...but not this penalty, its far too drastic.

Can it be proved the Aston won because of this? Or the Ford in BTCC?
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Probably not but that doesn't stop quite a few cars having their qualifying times scrubbed in BTCC qualifying for this exact same reason. Teams are always pushing the limits and they have to be brought back into line again.
 
Latest news: Turner calls for leniency from stewards

autosport.com
Darren Turner has called for more understanding and dialogue between the teams, stewards and organisers of the FIA GT World Championship following his Young Driver Aston Martin team's exclusion from winning the Tourist Trophy at Silverstone last weekend.

The Briton revealed that the team has appealed against its exclusion for too much wear on the plank fitted to the underside of the car, but Turner feels that the punishment did not the crime as he and co-driver Tomas Enge were forced to hand victory over to Warren Hughes and Jamie Campbell-Walter in the Sumo Nissan.

"It's a big disappointment," Turner told AUTOSPORT. "The Tourist Trophy was always something special to me and I wanted to win it.

"So when I did it was just a fantastic feeling so to then have the phone call three hours later telling me we'd been excluded because we had too much wear on the plank was gutting.

"Obviously it's the team's responsibility to make sure the ride-height is high enough to not wear the plank. We started the second race with the same plank that we finished the first race so that should have been changed or raised the ride height.

"But we had such a good lead that even if we had run it higher I'm sure we would have had the same result."

Turner accepts that he won the event with a car that failed post-race scrutineering, but added that it was not through deliberate intent, but rather an affect of the team and championship being so new, and called for a more leniency during the bedding-in period of the new category.

"A lot of these regulations filter down from things like Formula 1," he said. "But those teams are huge with massive input from the manufacturers. When you look at what the FIA GT World Championship is made of and it's on a much smaller scale. Our engineer isn't even full time! There is only so much money and you have to cut your cloth accordingly.

"With this in mind you can't expect everything to be done to Formula 1 quality and precision, when there just isn't the infrastructures in the teams to achieve that kind of perfection.

"You could argue that it is an FIA world championship and there are no excuses, but when you have got part-time staff and some of the teams are run on a shoestring, there needs to be some leeway.

"We were slightly worn on one patch of the plank, and people are learning at the moment," he added. "Our car has never run with a plank before so we have done two race meetings with planks. It's not like we've done a 100 days of testing, it's all been last-minute, we've only just got the cars homologated.

"I think there has got to be this transitional period where everyone works together to go racing."
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83466
 

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