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Still doesn't make any sense though. A few years ago the Petit Le Mans was won by a Porsche GTLM car, and I believe the overall podium were GTLM cars ahead of the prototypes due to their better traction in the rain. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to commemorate it by having a Nations race at Spa in the wet (since we don't have Road Atlanta) with a Porsche RSR vs. Peugeot 908 race, and expecting people to seriously consider the RSR...
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I wondered if anyone would find good reason to choose the Vette... I only ran FP laps, haven't run a race sim yet, so I was curious if the performance balance tips toward the Vette. I gave it a real try, as I wanted to run the Chevrolet at Laguna Seca (even as a Porsche Manufacturer's Cup driver, who got a great result in the Cayman at Laguna Seca earlier this year). But I was nearly a second faster in the Cayman in the end, at least for FP times. I wonder if it would make a difference over some fuel burn and tire wear. I'll probably go with the Porsche but I'll be wistfully wishing I could hear that V8 thump around the Laguna Seca tomorrow!
"Not gonna happen..." LOL
Still beats driving a Suzuki Swift, lol.
I'm tempted to start running Nations this next stage but it looks like they are all pretty high multipliers... much higher than Manufacturer races it seems. I'm not quite sure I can hang around towards the end of those races. I could imagine the Corvette tires fall off a cliff at some point if it's anything like the Fords. Porsche will walk away with this one....
I still have no idea what strategy to use for Manufacturers race, people are pitting every other lap. 7S-6M-1H or 6S-6S-1M-1H but you better hope you don't get caught up in traffic with the three stop.
Managed to get my qualifying time down to high 1:54s to 1:55.1xx feeling real good about starting up front.
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the race was mysteriously not broadcast LOLI hope this part is broadcasted.
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Did a practice race for Nations tomorrow, and yup, the strategy is pretty straightforward: Racing Hards, no-stop. No need to fuel-save, and in the Cayman there wasn't much of a drop off in performance in the Racing Hards until around lap 10.
So there's no real consensus on the strategy for Manufacturers yet? Also, are there any lap guides to Maggiore GP II that are applicable? I've never raced it before and without Mistah MCA's usual guide I feel lost lol.
So there's no real consensus on the strategy for Manufacturers yet? Also, are there any lap guides to Maggiore GP II that are applicable? I've never raced it before and without Mistah MCA's usual guide I feel lost lol.
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"Not gonna happen.
I tend to agree with the no-stop in a Porsche for the Nations race.
I’m pretty sure a stint on the optional Softs, and a throwaway set of Hards for a lap makes the Manufacturer’s Race a two-stopper, in a Porsche anyway. Softs are good for about a second per lap over the life, maybe more, and the pit delta seems to be about 6 seconds. Help to attack in the few passing zones, too. So factor in track position to time it, but I’m planning on Running a set after midway to gain the most out of them with a light tank. Speaking of which, I would need a splash of fuel if run at 10/10 all race, but I think with traffic and a careful pedal that I’ll be fine to leave the fuel filler on the hook all race at Lago Maggiore as well as the Laguna Seca Race.
That’s a mighty fast lap, you should be in good shape Wednesday, and if I remember right you’ve been pretty good there before. Good luck!
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What was your total time for a no stop do you remember? I thought that was the way to go but just went a full minute faster running 14M-1H. Gunna re go the no stop and see if I was just running slowly.
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Just re ran it no stopping hards and was faster by about 20 seconds, with a spin dropping a tyre in the dirt at t2. So had a look at replay of race I was in last night and I was clearly not pushing enough at the start then stuck in traffic for several laps, that explains that haha. So clearly a no stop the way to go 👍.
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To me, the C7 is more stable. Cayman has that weird non-feeling of being faster than it "feels". I can't call it though. We'll see in 55 minutes.
Going old school GT4
Edit: There you go...
Edit2: During qualy, I could go faste, just getting distracted with two Caymans going off ahead at two different times.
Starting 8th 1:28.698. Another C7 is 4th 1:28.476. Pole Cayman is 1:27.853.
Ahhh. Didn't change tyres to RH. Oh well. Looks like I'll two stop*shrugs shoulders*
Edit3: Just did the one stop. I moved up to 5th or 6th. Had a battle with two Caymans.
Wanted to make sure I passed without losing too much time.
Was able to pass P6 early in the first laps, cleanly, at T1. Had P4 lined up to pass. We get to the Corkscrew and it goes wide and squirrelly. Just enough for me to get a run coming out. We go under the walk bridge and contact. I lose out and drop a spot.
Make my way back up to the same Cayman and decide to pit end of Lap5. Came out 15th or 14th.
From there, it was go hard as I could. Fuel is not a factor. Surprised many cars were running long on RM. I thought everyone were in RH. Made positions passing cars in pits. It also paid off, as the lead C7 came out the pits(Lap 8 or 9) ghosted just next to me. It couldn't catch up on cold tyres.
Caught the tail end of P6 heading to final turn.
I liked that race. C7 is competitive. If you can qualify high up, may be worth it just to run RH all race. From the low position, I don't recommend touching RMs at all. Too much time lost in pits. Have to rely and hope others used RMs or pitting to jump from RH to RM.
Anyway, good racing with players older than me(54 and 64).
Going old school GT4
Edit: There you go...
Edit2: During qualy, I could go faste, just getting distracted with two Caymans going off ahead at two different times.
Starting 8th 1:28.698. Another C7 is 4th 1:28.476. Pole Cayman is 1:27.853.
Ahhh. Didn't change tyres to RH. Oh well. Looks like I'll two stop*shrugs shoulders*
Edit3: Just did the one stop. I moved up to 5th or 6th. Had a battle with two Caymans.
Wanted to make sure I passed without losing too much time.
Was able to pass P6 early in the first laps, cleanly, at T1. Had P4 lined up to pass. We get to the Corkscrew and it goes wide and squirrelly. Just enough for me to get a run coming out. We go under the walk bridge and contact. I lose out and drop a spot.
Make my way back up to the same Cayman and decide to pit end of Lap5. Came out 15th or 14th.
From there, it was go hard as I could. Fuel is not a factor. Surprised many cars were running long on RM. I thought everyone were in RH. Made positions passing cars in pits. It also paid off, as the lead C7 came out the pits(Lap 8 or 9) ghosted just next to me. It couldn't catch up on cold tyres.
Caught the tail end of P6 heading to final turn.
I liked that race. C7 is competitive. If you can qualify high up, may be worth it just to run RH all race. From the low position, I don't recommend touching RMs at all. Too much time lost in pits. Have to rely and hope others used RMs or pitting to jump from RH to RM.
Anyway, good racing with players older than me(54 and 64).
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I couldn't get a clean lap in until right at the end in qually, but had decent enough pace to get 9th.
In the race there was a good mix of Caymans and Corvettes and everyone seemed quite evenly matched at first. I started hards going for the no stop and managed to keep it on the track the whole race.
As we got to the last 5/6 laps I couldn't believe how many people in front of me pitted, I had already picked up 2 or more positions thanks to some other drivers errors but to end up in 2nd, behind what seemed the only other no stopper in the top 6 really surprised me.
I would have another run as I quite enjoy the combo but I've had enough laps of Leguna Seca lately to make my eyes bleed haha.
In the race there was a good mix of Caymans and Corvettes and everyone seemed quite evenly matched at first. I started hards going for the no stop and managed to keep it on the track the whole race.
As we got to the last 5/6 laps I couldn't believe how many people in front of me pitted, I had already picked up 2 or more positions thanks to some other drivers errors but to end up in 2nd, behind what seemed the only other no stopper in the top 6 really surprised me.
I would have another run as I quite enjoy the combo but I've had enough laps of Leguna Seca lately to make my eyes bleed haha.
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From memory the GTLM cars were all on Michelin's that year and the prototypes (LMP2's and upgraded DP's) were on 🤬 Continental's which hadn't been developed for years. I would take the Porsche.
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Well, looking to take my unimaginative spongebob Porsche put for the rounds at Laguna. Starting roughly mid pack, but crucially ahead of the final curve. Lots of crashes in qually. Hmmm
Edit: so I got it wrong. Started p10, exactly before the final corner.
what the heck, no stop on hards it is.
Started ok though, just a tiny wiggle. Then proceeded to catch and reel in the pack from p3 on back. Just focusing on clean and smooth laps, patient on the throttle, steady turns. All the usual LS stuff. Work my way to p8 due to people crashing, but some of the crashes work back through dropping me to p10. Still only about 6 to 7 seconds back from p3.
Then the pit stops start! The winner no stopped, second place was just keeping up with him but was mediums and pitted to come out just with the driver in front of me, about 4 seconds up the road. Everyone else disappeared behind me.
even up until the end of lap 14 I was actually pulling away from those behind on fresher tires. Lap 15 I am in p4 and just working hard not to make my normal mistake when the guy who has been massively reeling me in this lap gets to about 1.1 behind. . . . And promptly bins it in the corkscrew
I manage to bring home p4 and a best ever 110 points. Also got CRB number 4 in a row. Great race and result for me. Finally a 99% clean and error free race. Ran a hair wide of the first right turn on 1 lap, but kept rights on the pavement, kept it straight and only lost 2 spots. Only mistake all race.
Good luck out there and have fun.
Edit: so I got it wrong. Started p10, exactly before the final corner.
what the heck, no stop on hards it is.Started ok though, just a tiny wiggle. Then proceeded to catch and reel in the pack from p3 on back. Just focusing on clean and smooth laps, patient on the throttle, steady turns. All the usual LS stuff. Work my way to p8 due to people crashing, but some of the crashes work back through dropping me to p10. Still only about 6 to 7 seconds back from p3.
Then the pit stops start! The winner no stopped, second place was just keeping up with him but was mediums and pitted to come out just with the driver in front of me, about 4 seconds up the road. Everyone else disappeared behind me.
even up until the end of lap 14 I was actually pulling away from those behind on fresher tires. Lap 15 I am in p4 and just working hard not to make my normal mistake when the guy who has been massively reeling me in this lap gets to about 1.1 behind. . . . And promptly bins it in the corkscrewI manage to bring home p4 and a best ever 110 points. Also got CRB number 4 in a row. Great race and result for me. Finally a 99% clean and error free race. Ran a hair wide of the first right turn on 1 lap, but kept rights on the pavement, kept it straight and only lost 2 spots. Only mistake all race.
Good luck out there and have fun.
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Good point. I forgot they didn't race with full boost. I tried running again with Fuel Map 6. Car still runs decently fast, tops out at around 310 km/h on the backstraight with max downforce (seems a lot more reasonable than the 340-350 km/h with full power). Full tank lasts for 13 laps now, so a 200L tank like in real life would last ~26 laps/260km which sounds a lot closer to reality (with some lift & coast you can probably get to full race distance) 👍
In any case, it's a far cry from modern F1 engines with their 50% thermal efficiency
I'm interested to test the fuel consumption for the Merc F1 now 
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Depends on your lobby. I only practiced about 3 or 4 laps on mediums. Spent the whole rest of my warm up time tonight running 15 to 20 laps or so on the hards, just cementing in the rhythm of the track. Also securing brake markers and coasting points as by lap 3 almost all brake boards and cones are gone. I was surprised but with the extra practice I was quite easily hanging on to the backs of the guys running mediums after the second lap. And if you have things down in a rhythm the hards dont wear massively. My lap 13 was only 3 tenths slower than my fastest lap. But those were a 31.1 and a 31.4.So todays Nations is nostopper? I hope many people in first slot start on mediums, that is only chance for me to get good result, but probably gonna be eaten alive
However, at my level nailing 12 of 15 laps at that pace and only having a couple of 32 flats and a 33(my dirt trip) as the slow laps it meant that my consistency kept me ahead due to everyone's mistakes from pushing like mad.
People would catch for a lap or 2 then suddenly they would be way behind or there would be a position change back there.
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Looks like the strategy here is to do a no stop, i'm guessing due to the long stop time at Laguna Seca. Going to be using the Cayman as it's just the better car here, that and I have the perfect flying lizard livery for it in my gallery!
For those interested
: https://gts.gt-beginners.net/livery...searchword=GTP_Abarber95+flying+lizard&type=0
For those interested
: https://gts.gt-beginners.net/livery...searchword=GTP_Abarber95+flying+lizard&type=0
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Pit time and as some have alluded to above you can run pretty fast and consistent times deep into the race on hards. They aren't that much slower than the mediums really, my fastest lap was a 1:30.3 and the fastest lap in the race was a 1:29.4. But I was able to consistently run those times.
Not sure if any of the times can be made out there very horrible quality screenshot sorry haha.
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